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Old 22-12-2016, 09:14
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I don't see the relevance.
The 'relevance' was to point out Schaffernaker was a the end of his shift at 5.20, not the begining. So IF (and i do stress IF) he had eaten or drunk too much he was on duty all through the night. Sure enough Stav did the shipping forecast this morning.

We will have to agree to disagree.

Some clearly think the sun shines out of his backside.

Others see an irritating attention seeking twerp, who is always trying to get himself noticed.
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:38
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Surely it's not unreasonable for listeners who have heard something apparently go wrong on air to inquire what happened and express concern for the person ?
Yes, some did. It looks like maybe one or two others tweeted an assumption based upon no real evidence other than the time of the year. And some here seem to be taking this as gospel.

If - as has been said - he was coming to the end of his shift why had he spent considerable time at a party ?
Maybe he hadn't. Is there any evidence or admission (other than speculation in the media or on Twitter) that he attended such a party?
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Old 22-12-2016, 13:40
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The 'relevance' was to point out Schaffernaker was a the end of his shift at 5.20, not the begining. So IF (and i do stress IF) he had eaten or drunk too much he was on duty all through the night. Sure enough Stav did the shipping forecast this morning.
He was ill at the end of his shift. A guy was ill at work. That's it. That is the story. Maybe you are unable separate your dislike of a weatherman that there must be more to it than plain old simple 'guy ill at work'




Some clearly think the sun shines out of his backside.
Nope. Some dont share you dislike of a person from TV/Radio therefore you believe any old clap trap a random nobody tweets on Twitter.

Others see an irritating attention seeking twerp, who is always trying to get himself noticed.
That's your problem. You inability to separate your own perception to that of maybe real life. All of which is completely irrelevant to someone being ill at work. Happens everyday up and down the country. But for this guy.. there must be an exception because you dont like him.
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Old 22-12-2016, 13:54
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That's your problem. You inability to separate your own perception to that of maybe real life. All of which is completely irrelevant to someone being ill at work. Happens everyday up and down the country. But for this guy.. there must be an exception because you dont like him.

But why is it ALWAYS him whenever there is an incident?

If you were told 'a weather presenter had to stop broadcasting to be sick' and had to guess who it was, I reckon everyone would say 'TS' and they'd have been right.

Thomasz the accident prone engine-

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Old 22-12-2016, 13:56
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Apart that that reference there, we also have this from yourself in post 29:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=29

Then you have led a very sheltered or puritanical life, especially where Christmas partying is concerned. BTW, he's 37, it's a bit later before he's "pushing 40"
That does not make reference to his sexuality.

The only time I think that this may be relevant is if members of his own community are correct in their claim that many older gay men are immature.

I have no doubts in my mind when I say that the average 37 year old professional person will not be drinking to excess to the point of vomiting at work the day after.

Such people have more concern for their career, wife, children etc.

He was ill at the end of his shift. A guy was ill at work. That's it. That is the story. Maybe you are unable separate your dislike of a weatherman that there must be more to it than plain old simple 'guy ill at work' .
The truth is that nobody knows if this was due to an illness that he couldn't help, further attention seeking or a result of being out too late and drinking too much.

What is not in dispute is the fact that disrupting the Shipping Forecast for the first time in it's history is the latest in a long line of incidents with this particular individual.

As I said earlier, even if it wasn't his fault, a further incident won't reflect well on him.

Most sensible people behave like adults at work, so when something unfortunate/embarrassing happens, it doesn't trigger a "here we go again" type response.
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Old 22-12-2016, 14:00
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But why is it ALWAYS him whenever there is an incident?

If you were told 'a weather presenter had to stop broadcasting to be sick' and had to guess who it was, I reckon everyone would say 'TS' and they'd have been right.

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I do wonder if these things are a deliberate attempt to carve a 'quirky personality' for himself so that he thinks he can move onto something bigger in TV??

Maybe it's as a result of his upbringing, how many people would do the one finger salute in front of a camera that was shortly to go live in front of the nation?

Spoilt? Dim? Arrogant?

You're right, it always has to be him.

To those defending his behaviour, I challenge them to name one other weather forecaster who repeatedly makes a spectacle of themselves (and their employer by default).

Can anyone imagine, under any circumstances, the late Ian McCaskill doing something yobbish like this to camera?
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Old 22-12-2016, 14:15
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That does not make reference to his sexuality.
So you know of straight men who use the gay pick up app 'Grindr'?

The only time I think that this may be relevant is if members of his own community are correct in their claim that many older gay men are immature.
So straight men cannot fool around, get drunk and have hangovers if they are over the age of 20?

Maybe a prejudice is beginning to show.

The truth is that nobody knows if this was due to an illness that he couldn't help, further attention seeking or a result of being out too late and drinking too much.
But two posters here seem to have made up their mind.
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Old 22-12-2016, 14:47
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Schafernaker has always struck me as ill-suited to his presenting role. I get the impression he does it because he likes the attention he gets from it and has little respect for presenting as a profession.
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Old 22-12-2016, 14:55
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Apart from yourself and one other, I don't recall anyone referring to his sexuality, although some of my gay friends have said that immaturity does appear to be a problem from some older gay men.




There's only you and Paul that have referred to his sexuality thus far
In response to what you said which is totally irrelevant to him being unwell

At 37 years old it's time he grew up:

http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/19/hungov...party-6333382/

An apt saying in the circumstances would be 'shape up, or ship out'.

I mentioned this to some gay friends of mine and they have been filling me in on his antics on the gay pick up app 'Grindr'
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Old 22-12-2016, 14:56
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The truth is that nobody knows if this was due to an illness that he couldn't help, further attention seeking or a result of being out too late and drinking too much.
Guy was ill at work at the end of a shift.

What is not in dispute is the fact that disrupting the Shipping Forecast for the first time in it's history is the latest in a long line of incidents with this particular individual.
Guy was ill at work at the end of a shift. What said person was doing at the time is irrelevant.

As I said earlier, even if it wasn't his fault, a further incident won't reflect well on him.
To who will it not reflect well with? Twitter? Internet forums where people dont like people of the telly?

Most sensible people behave like adults at work, so when something unfortunate/embarrassing happens, it doesn't trigger a "here we go again" type response.
Are these "here we go again" people special? They sound like the kind that have trouble separating their own dislike for someone of the TV/radio with that of reality. You know the 'Dear Barry Took' type.

Here is the reality, and it happens up and down the country every day. A guy was ill at work
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Old 22-12-2016, 14:57
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Maybe he was genuinely ill at work, but he's still an extremely irritating attention-seeker.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:01
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But why is it ALWAYS him whenever there is an incident?

If you were told 'a weather presenter had to stop broadcasting to be sick' and had to guess who it was, I reckon everyone would say 'TS' and they'd have been right.

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It isn't always him though is it? Virtually all presenters make gaffs. It just so happens this guy makes easy tabloid click bait for people like yourself.

Yes I get it. You dont like someone on the TV. So everything they do irks you.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:04
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But why is it ALWAYS him whenever there is an incident?
It ISN 'T!

Louise Lear felt wobbly and ended her shift early once, you just didn't hear about it in the "news"papers - they are telling you what to think.....
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:05
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The things people choose to get annoyed about.... utterly bizarre.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:06
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I have nothing against him as a person, and don't find him particularly irritating either. As others have said though, it's always him who suffers these unfortunate incidents on air (far more than any other forecaster I can think of), whether he's making gestures to the camera, giggling throughout a forecast which started with a 'frozen ball' or taking ill on air.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:18
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Last time I heard the shipping forecast (which admittedly was some time ago) it was read by the duty announcer, not a weather person, as it does not require his or her input it's prepared elsewhere.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:18
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Guy was ill at work at the end of a shift.



Guy was ill at work at the end of a shift. What said person was doing at the time is irrelevant.



To who will it not reflect well with? Twitter? Internet forums where people dont like people of the telly?



Are these "here we go again" people special? They sound like the kind that have trouble separating their own dislike for someone of the TV/radio with that of reality. You know the 'Dear Barry Took' type.

Here is the reality, and it happens up and down the country every day. A guy was ill at work
If someone is ill at work and it is a result of alcohol overuse, they can and should be disciplined. To be fair, his employer might have done so, but how long should this behaviour be tolerated?

It will not reflect well on him by his employer. If an individual is repeatedly unprofessional and immature, they will think "here we go again", even if this latest incident wasn't his fault.

Most people are sensible enough to keep their head down at work, this one seems desperate to crave attention of any type at every available opportunity.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:23
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If someone is ill at work and it is a result of alcohol overuse, they can and should be disciplined. To be fair, his employer might have done so, but how long should this behaviour be tolerated?

It will not reflect well on him by his employer. If an individual is repeatedly unprofessional and immature, they will think "here we go again", even if this latest incident wasn't his fault.

Most people are sensible enough to keep their head down at work, this one seems desperate to crave attention of any type at every available opportunity.

Who says he was ill due to alcohol? Twitter? To be physically sick takes a lot of alcohol. I assume said person has partied far more than maybe a few Xmas sherries at work.

What behaviour are you talking about? Being ill?
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:26
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So you know of straight men who use the gay pick up app 'Grindr'?

So straight men cannot fool around, get drunk and have hangovers if they are over the age of 20?

Maybe a prejudice is beginning to show.

But two posters here seem to have made up their mind.
I have no idea, I never have or would use anything so seedy.

Most comments made by my gay friends would not be appropriate to repeat on here, about the tamest thing that I can think of is that he is allegedly a noisy bottom.

Anyone can drink to the point of excess and a hangover if they choose, but must face the consequences if this impacts on their job of work.

Their employer is fully entitled to take appropriate disciplinary action.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:28
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If someone is ill at work and it is a result of alcohol overuse, they can and should be disciplined. To be fair, his employer might have done so, but how long should this behaviour be tolerated?
that's immaterial to this incident, as even IF it was a hangover, there is no evidence to suggest that this type of incident has happened on other occasions.

It will not reflect well on him by his employer.
As he is still on air, then it would appear that the Met Office (his employer) and the BBC (to whom his services are contracted) HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT (unlike yourself as you keep on banging on about it).
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:31
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I have no idea, I never have or would use anything so seedy.
Well, it was YOU who mentioned it in the context of "your gay friends". Perhaps you should ask them if they know of straight men who use it.

Again, your use of the term "seedy" betrays another prejudice perhaps.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:31
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Who says he was ill due to alcohol? Twitter? To be physically sick takes a lot of alcohol. I assume said person has partied far more than maybe a few Xmas sherries at work.

What behaviour are you talking about? Being ill?
He was clearly ill, but the salient point is whether this was his own fault or not.

If it was, he should be disciplined.

If it wasn't, there's nothing more to be said apart from the fact that his past behaviour is bound to raise a few eyebrows and do him no favours.

This is why his past unprofessionalism may damage his career, even if on this occasion it did turn out that it wasn't his fault.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:35
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He was clearly ill, but the salient point is whether this was his own fault or not.

If it was, he should be disciplined.
IF he was, how do you know that he wasn't? Otherwise, it's simply Twitter gossip with no basis in fact.

This is why his past unprofessionalism may damage his career, even if on this occasion it did turn out that it wasn't his fault.
Your apparent concern for him and his career seems rather touching.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:41
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that's immaterial to this incident, as even IF it was a hangover, there is no evidence to suggest that this type of incident has happened on other occasions.

As he is still on air, then it would appear that the Met Office (his employer) and the BBC (to whom his services are contracted) HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT (unlike yourself as you keep on banging on about it).
There is plenty of evidence to show him as being the immature, attention seeking and unprofessional individual that he is. The fact that it appears that there has not been any previous incidents of this particular type is immaterial.

If this latest incident was of his own making, this amounts to misconduct and should be dealt with.

Still being on air is not indicative of any disciplinary action that may or may not have taken place.

You have been a prolific contributer to this thread.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:43
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He was clearly ill, but the salient point is whether this was his own fault or not.

If it was, he should be disciplined.
When did the incident happen? Is said person still on the BBC?

If it wasn't, there's nothing more to be said apart from the fact that his past behaviour is bound to raise a few eyebrows and do him no favours.
Raise a few eyebrows with who? A few on internet forums and twitter?

There was nothing more to be said beyond a guy was ill at work. It just happens this guy irks a few people on the internet.

This is why his past unprofessionalism may damage his career, even if on this occasion it did turn out that it wasn't his fault.
Being ill isn't unprofessional. His career does not appear to have been damaged by being ill. He is after all still on the BBC is he not?
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