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Old 22-12-2016, 15:46
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The things people choose to get annoyed about.... utterly bizarre.
You should see this one some of the tabloids are running with , Eamonn Holmes accidentally said Mother and corrected himself to Grandmother and apparently that is disgraceful ???? some have even said he made a joke ??? sad people

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-...r-This-Morning
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:49
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Well, it was YOU who mentioned it in the context of "your gay friends". Perhaps you should ask them if they know of straight men who use it.

Again, your use of the term "seedy" betrays another prejudice perhaps.
I have no interest in the types that use these apps, you'll have to make your own enquiries.

It's also correct that I have no time for the types that use these apps as a means to indulge in seedy behaviour.

IF he was, how do you know that he wasn't? Otherwise, it's simply Twitter gossip with no basis in fact.



Your apparent concern for him and his career seems rather touching.
Only him and his employer know the truth, which is as it should be.

If he was ill due to no fault of his own, that's something that cannot be helped, but his past behaviour is bound to draw more attention to the incident than would otherwise have occurred.

If this illness was his own fault, I would expect him to be disciplined for it.

My only concern is that he does his job properly in a mature and professional manner, if he doesn't, he should be gotten rid of.
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:59
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When did the incident happen? Is said person still on the BBC?

Raise a few eyebrows with who? A few on internet forums and twitter?

There was nothing more to be said beyond a guy was ill at work. It just happens this guy irks a few people on the internet.

Being ill isn't unprofessional. His career does not appear to have been damaged by being ill. He is after all still on the BBC is he not?
Still being on air is not indicative as to whether any disciplinary proceedings have been undertaken or not.

I believe that this latest incident will not have gone unnoticed and will have raised the eyebrows of his employers.

If a person is ill as a result of self inflicted behaviour, it's not only unprofessional, but it amounts to misconduct. If this was the case, his employer would have every right to invoke the disciplinary procedure.

Without knowing the full facts, it's impossible for anybody to know if being ill was his own fault or not.
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:01
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Non story.

Surprised on the thread being created.
Just a 91 year historical run coming to an end, thats all. But we can't be surprised these days as the whole BBC is ran in this same couldn't care less manner.
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:05
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Still being on air is not indicative as to whether any disciplinary proceedings have been undertaken or not.

I believe that this latest incident will not have gone unnoticed and will have raised the eyebrows of his employers.

If a person is ill as a result of self inflicted behaviour, it's not only unprofessional, but it amounts to misconduct. If this was the case, his employer would have every right to invoke the disciplinary procedure.

Without knowing the full facts, it's impossible for anybody to know if being ill was his own fault or not.

Well it certainly hasn't gone unnoticed with those happy to jump aboard click bait based on the person.

Maybe the BBC are dragging their heels looking into said persons unacceptable immature behaviour. Or maybe they know what happened. You know. Guy was ill at work.


When did the incident happen?
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:07
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You have been a prolific contributer to this thread.
Yes, to add proper balance and perspective, and to point out the presumptions and in some cases, inaccuracies and apparent prejudices, being proffered by yourself & ftv.
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:11
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Only him and his employer know the truth, which is as it should be.
So why don't you leave it at that? But no, you keep on banging on about his "unprofessionalism", and insinuating that he was hung over.

This is your latest:

I believe that this latest incident will not have gone unnoticed and will have raised the eyebrows of his employers.

If a person is ill as a result of self inflicted behaviour, it's not only unprofessional, but it amounts to misconduct. If this was the case, his employer would have every right to invoke the disciplinary procedure.
No, you won't let it go without a snide hint as to what YOU see as the cause of this incident (as well as references to what other friends of yours say about what he supposedly does in his private life)
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:12
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There is always a reason for someone being sick.

Pregnancy (wouldn't put it past him) or eating or drinking too much (particularly alcohol) might make you sick once,- and then fit for work the next day (he was on next day because I was wondering if there would be a period of absence so was keeping a look out for him) Or- it could be the first in a number of incidents of being sick (a real bout of sickness caused by food poisoning) But once, and once only, is unlikely to be eating something contaminated. Once and once only means too much food and/or drink in a short period.

Anyway, it's like the little boy who cried wolf.

If you are constantly drawing attention to yourself, you can't be surprised if people speculate the one time an incident is genuine (if we give him the benefit of the doubt)
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:12
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Still being on air is not indicative as to whether any disciplinary proceedings have been undertaken or not.

I believe that this latest incident will not have gone unnoticed and will have raised the eyebrows of his employers.

If a person is ill as a result of self inflicted behaviour, it's not only unprofessional, but it amounts to misconduct. If this was the case, his employer would have every right to invoke the disciplinary procedure.

Without knowing the full facts, it's impossible for anybody to know if being ill was his own fault or not.
We know for a fact that whilst people were happy to say he had been at the BBC party the night before when the party was actually 2 days before, but the rumour mongers didn't let that get in their way.

So a hangover ( and there is no evidence at all he had one ) is now classified as misconduct ? that should be an interesting one for the employment tribunals and every manager across the country will be spending much of their time giving disciplinary procedures. This self inflicted illness, will that cover those who knowingly see someone with a cold or bug that they then catch ? and what about breaking or injuring a limb doing sports ?
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:17
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Jeepers don't you just love the internet .....
Not so long ago a letter (remember them) to Points of View along the line of "I wish to register a complaint "----- no not about a dead parrot ---- on this topic would be laughed at and swept under the carpet.
Happy Christmas Mr Schafernaker if you are wasting your time reading this and long may you continue .
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:09
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It ISN 'T!

Louise Lear felt wobbly and ended her shift early once, you just didn't hear about it in the "news"papers - they are telling you what to think.....
Janice Long has been taken ill a couple of times on her late night programme. It has always been fully explained and she has apologised on her return a day or so later.

It might be time for the Met Office to transfer him to Sumburgh or Mount Pleasant or even BAS for a year or so.
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:12
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Well it certainly hasn't gone unnoticed with those happy to jump aboard click bait based on the person.

Maybe the BBC are dragging their heels looking into said persons unacceptable immature behaviour. Or maybe they know what happened. You know. Guy was ill at work.


When did the incident happen?
No-one is disputing that he was ill, what is being questioned is whether this was his own fault or not, something that only Schafernaker and this employer will know.

If it wasn't, there's nothing more to be said.

If it was, let's hope that appropriate action will be taken.

Yes, to add proper balance and perspective, and to point out the presumptions and in some cases, inaccuracies and apparent prejudices, being proffered by yourself & ftv.
So its you who keeps "banging on about it" then.

So why don't you leave it at that? But no, you keep on banging on about his "unprofessionalism", and insinuating that he was hung over.

This is your latest:



No, you won't let it go without a snide hint as to what YOU see as the cause of this incident (as well as references to what other friends of yours say about what he supposedly does in his private life)
I have made it clear that nobody knows for sure what the true cause of this latest incident was, but that his past performance is bound to raise more questions than would have otherwise been the case.

Everyone has a duty not to let their private life affect their public life. This is especially so when you are regularly representing your employer on national television.

He has already been in trouble for posing for a gay magazine; what next, a Schafernaker sex tape?

There is always a reason for someone being sick.

Pregnancy (wouldn't put it past him) or eating or drinking too much (particularly alcohol) might make you sick once,- and then fit for work the next day (he was on next day because I was wondering if there would be a period of absence so was keeping a look out for him) Or- it could be the first in a number of incidents of being sick (a real bout of sickness caused by food poisoning) But once, and once only, is unlikely to be eating something contaminated. Once and once only means too much food and/or drink in a short period.

Anyway, it's like the little boy who cried wolf.

If you are constantly drawing attention to yourself, you can't be surprised if people speculate the one time an incident is genuine (if we give him the benefit of the doubt)
Exactly. Like I have said all along, even if it turns out that it was not his fault, his previous unprofessional behaviour will have done him no favours at all.

Jeepers don't you just love the internet .....
Not so long ago a letter (remember them) to Points of View along the line of "I wish to register a complaint "----- no not about a dead parrot ---- on this topic would be laughed at and swept under the carpet.
Happy Christmas Mr Schafernaker if you are wasting your time reading this and long may you continue .
Regards
From what I've been told about Schafernaker, I would say it's extremely likely that he'd be the sort to put his own name into a search engine.

Let's hope that 2017 is the year that this individual finally makes an effort to grow up.
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:18
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Janice Long has been taken ill a couple of times on her late night programme. It has always been fully explained and she has apologised on her return a day or so later.
She is a BBC employee (with access to free airtime for both herdelf & any stand-in). He is employed by the Met Office, a totally different employer.
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Old 22-12-2016, 18:22
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No-one is disputing that he was ill, what is being questioned is whether this was his own fault or not, something that only Schafernaker and this employer will know.

If it wasn't, there's nothing more to be said.

If it was, let's hope that appropriate action will be taken.


Third time lucky.
When did the incident happen?

Do you think his employer still does not know why he was ill?



He has already been in trouble for posing for a gay magazine; what next, a Schafernaker sex tape?
What trouble did he get into?
Do straight folk on TV get into trouble when they do similar shoots in straight magazines?

What has his sexuality to do with being ill at work?
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Old 22-12-2016, 18:29
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I'll add my tuppence worth. Why is this not on the radio thread?
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Old 22-12-2016, 18:39
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I'll add my tuppence worth. Why is this not on the radio thread?
Because the OP posted a click bait article. That is enough for the usual 'I dont like this person' internet fodder. The actual incident is irrelevant. He's gay dont you know?
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Old 22-12-2016, 18:54
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I'll add my tuppence worth. Why is this not on the radio thread?
It is, or rather was, thread started on the actual day of the 'event'

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2192404
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Old 22-12-2016, 19:04
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Those who assume it must be alcohol related presumably don't understand you can quickly turn from feeling fine to hugging the toilet bowl in minutes.

Last night I was fine, perhaps a little slow but I put that down to tiredness. I walked to the kitchen and suddenly had to sit down as I didn't feel well. Seconds later I almost knocked my housemate over as I ran to the toilet.

No alcohol involved for over 22 hours and even that was only 3 cans. These things happen and a few hours later I was perfectly fine again.
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:08
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Those who assume it must be alcohol related presumably don't understand you can quickly turn from feeling fine to hugging the toilet bowl in minutes.

Last night I was fine, perhaps a little slow but I put that down to tiredness. I walked to the kitchen and suddenly had to sit down as I didn't feel well. Seconds later I almost knocked my housemate over as I ran to the toilet.

No alcohol involved for over 22 hours and even that was only 3 cans. These things happen and a few hours later I was perfectly fine again.
I will second your comment- last Saturday morning I thought I had cracked a rib and by tea time was in hospital with pneumonia...............
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:16
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Third time lucky.
When did the incident happen?

Do you think his employer still does not know why he was ill?

What trouble did he get into?

Do straight folk on TV get into trouble when they do similar shoots in straight magazines?

What has his sexuality to do with being ill at work?
As previously explained, nobody will know the full details apart from Schafernaker and his employer.

To my knowledge, no other weather forecaster has done this type of photo shoot.

I imagine that the likes of Michael Fish, John Kettley etc have more self respect.

His sexuality is irrelevant until it starts to cause any problems for his employer eg embarrassment, credibility issues, unprofessional behaviour that could bring them into disrepute etc.

Those who assume it must be alcohol related presumably don't understand you can quickly turn from feeling fine to hugging the toilet bowl in minutes.

Last night I was fine, perhaps a little slow but I put that down to tiredness. I walked to the kitchen and suddenly had to sit down as I didn't feel well. Seconds later I almost knocked my housemate over as I ran to the toilet.

No alcohol involved for over 22 hours and even that was only 3 cans. These things happen and a few hours later I was perfectly fine again.
Yes, that can happen sometimes. Glad that you feel better now

I myself haven't made any assumptions as to whether this latest incident was alcohol related or not. I simply don't know!
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:23
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Taken from the other thread:

No, he's a liability.

"I had sea sickness during the shipping forecast" on Twitter, because it's funny isn't it.

Giggling like a teenage girl through another shipping forecast.

Sticking your middle finger up at a presenter live on air at breakfast time.

If you listened to how professionally the continuity announcer continued with the forecast you see how childish and how much of a liability Shaffernaker is.
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:28
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As previously explained, nobody will know the full details apart from Schafernaker and his employer.

To my knowledge, no other weather forecaster has done this type of photo shoot.

I imagine that the likes of Michael Fish, John Kettley etc have more self respect.

His sexuality is irrelevant until it starts to cause any problems for his employer eg embarrassment, credibility issues, unprofessional behaviour that could bring them into disrepute etc

When did the incident happen? Do you think his employer are still unaware to the cause of his illness!



What trouble did he get into over his photo shoot for a magazine?
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:30
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I refer you to post 120.
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:33
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I refer you to post 120.
Post 120 does not answer the two questions I asked regarding your other posts

When did the incident happen? Do you think his employer is still unaware to the cause of his illness!



What trouble did he get into over his photo shoot for a magazine?

Remember?
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“ He has already been in trouble for posing for a gay magazine; what next, a Schafernaker sex tape?”
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:40
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When did the incident happen? Do you think his employer us still unaware to the cause of his illness!
Schaffernaker is hardly likely to say to his boss 'I was drunk' is he?

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not saying he was but if he was he'd be a bit daft to admit it.

And no bosses around at 5.30 in the morning to check up on his state at the time, so, understandably the attention seeking missile gets the benefit of the doubt.
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