Should BBC Staff Be Banned From SCD

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Doghouse Riley

18-12-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“No.

Incorrect.

People like say Claire Balding a freelance so she can work for BBC C4 etc.

Not a tax dodge, there is no such thing!

In the past the BBC had more sports rights, so had staff on exclusive contracts, those days are long long gone, another example, Gary Lineker works for BT sport as well and took a pay cut at the BBC.

Tax wise a few mention tax dodge but are confused, there is tax management, that's legal, and tax avoidance or a dodge that's illegal. The HMRC allows tax management but will take tax evaders to court. This is where those who do not know the difference get muddled up. Or deliberately mislead.

If you are say a freelancer like Claire Balding they agree what they will cover with the BBC and C4, and it typically is paid into a limited company. This is " legal" not a dodge.”

A tax dodge is a tax dodge, whether it's tax avoidance, (legal) or tax evasion (illegal).

The PBP who are on PAYE have no such advantages.

We got into this because someone suggested that because a lot of high earners are self employed and contract themselves out to the BBC they aren't "employed by the BBC." They are.

Sorry I didn't have time to wait for you to Google "semantics " and copy and paste it into your post.

A.D.P

18-12-2016

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“You know exactly what I meant.
Or you're easily confused.

Stop changing the subject. It's got nothing to do with camera operators.

How simply do I have to explain it?

If they are regularly appearing on a BBC show, or have recently been in one, or are likely be going to be in a further programme, they are or have been employed by the BBC, regardless of what sort of contract arrangements are made, so they are BBC People.”

You fail to understand the difference between salary and contract.

John Inverdale and Mark Pougatch, more examples, work for BBC and ITV, Andrew Castle works for BBC and commercial radio, none are BBC people, all freelance.

A.D.P

18-12-2016

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“A tax dodge is a tax dodge, whether it's tax avoidance, (legal) or tax evasion (illegal).

The PBP who are on PAYE have no such advantages.

We got into this because someone suggested that because a lot of high earners are self employed and contract themselves out to the BBC they aren't "employed by the BBC." They are.”

OK, you can't/ won't understand it,

Tax dodge illegal, tax evasion illegal, tax management, is legal, it is not tax dodge or evasion, freelancers quite legally use limited companies it's not illegal, if you said what you are typing to a named person it could be slander. You are saying what they are doing us illegal when it's legal. You do not, or will not understand the difference between salary, contract and freelance.

Suggest you read up before making more incorrect statements.

Doghouse Riley

18-12-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“You fail to understand the difference between salary and contract.

John Inverdale and Mark Pougatch, more examples, work for BBC and ITV, Andrew Castle works for BBC and commercial radio, none are BBC people, all freelance.”

You're being silly now. It doesn't matter if they are on salary or contracted.

They work for the BBC and as such they are employed by them.

Do you not realise that the BBC use this show to give people who work for them a wider exposure, improve their public perception and therefore hopefully get some of the people who watch Strictly to watch the programmes in which they appear?

Or do you know nothing about PR spin at all?

Doghouse Riley

18-12-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“OK, you can't/ won't understand it,

Tax dodge illegal, tax evasion illegal, tax management, is legal, it is not tax dodge or evasion, freelancers quite legally use limited companies it's not illegal, if you said what you are typing to a named person it could be slander. You are saying what they are doing us illegal when it's legal. You do not, or will not understand the difference between salary, contract and freelance.

Suggest you read up before making more incorrect statements.”

I suggest you read my post #51. I covered the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion in a sentence.

I've not said anything is illegal. Stop making stuff up.

Moany Liza

18-12-2016

No.

MACTOWIN

18-12-2016

Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“No. ”

I feel intimidated by that tongue.

lundavra

18-12-2016

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Hmm..

Name me one known BBC regular who isn't a limited company and sells their services to the BBC.
It's a tax dodge historically condoned by the BBC.

If they appear on BBC in a BBC show, they are BBC people, lets not get into semantics.”

I think that was stopped, a friend who works in IT was a Limited Company but i came across a winding order for the company recently. It wasn't just the BBC that allowed people to be paid through Limited Companies, most of the media and many other businesses seem to do it so quite likely most ITV, CH4 talent were using it (and of course many have other fiddles).

karl_kennedy

18-12-2016

A preposterous question that doesn't warrant an answer.

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