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some of the defence from the trumpers is quite bizarre
if the message was only meant to refer to jesus then why emphasise there being a new king this christmas Maybe if Liberal Dems weren't so out of touch with Christian values shared by the vast majority of Americans they wouldn't keep losing. |
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Anyone with an ounce of understanding would see this is a religious reference to the birth of Jesus.
Maybe if Liberal Dems weren't so out of touch with Christian values shared by the vast majority of Americans they wouldn't keep losing. |
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#303 |
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So who is the new King? The Wise Men didn't visit Jesus until several days after Christmas Day, but then I would think that Christians would know that
Jesus is the King of Kings - hence the reference to his birth as new and him being a King. https://youtu.be/yp7eEpcn3R0 PS Jesus wasn't really Born on 25 December! |
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I thought HHH was known as the King of Kings??
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#305 |
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Triple H wouldn't put that beared hippy over that's for sure.
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The answer is stated 36 seconds into this video.
Jesus is the King of Kings - hence the reference to his birth as new and him being a King. https://youtu.be/yp7eEpcn3R0 PS Jesus wasn't really Born on 25 December! |
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Anyone with an ounce of understanding would see this is a religious reference to the birth of Jesus.
Maybe if Liberal Dems weren't so out of touch with Christian values shared by the vast majority of Americans they wouldn't keep losing. |
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#308 |
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You do realize that a Democrat just won a majority of votes last month, right?
The electoral college determines who is the President under the US constitution and not any other system - something Clinton seemed to have forgotten about when she spent more on ads in California than in Michigan and Wisconsin! Utter stupidity that cost her dear. There really wasn't much point in Republicans even voting in California anyway - without which Clinton would have lost the popular vote by two million. The state of Reagan and Nixon has gone so liberal both the final two candidates in the senate race were Democrats and it was a foregone conclusion Clinton would win there. If the system was different then you might get a very different result. |
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You still don't quite get it yet do you! Trump also won most states - doesn't matter either.
The electoral college determines who is the President under the US constitution and not any other system - something Clinton seemed to have forgotten about when she spent more on ads in California than in Michigan and Wisconsin! Utter stupidity that cost her dear. There really wasn't much point in Republicans even voting in California anyway - without which Clinton would have lost the popular vote by two million. The state of Reagan and Nixon has gone so liberal both the final two candidates in the senate race were Democrats and it was a foregone conclusion Clinton would win there. If the system was different then you might get a very different result. Of course, the electoral college (in this election) was the deciding factor against the tide of popular vote - which still makes Trump president-elect, but the idea that if the system was different, it would somehow create a different outcome in California, is deeply misguided. The electorate there went to vote for 2 democrats for the state seat, and still found a way to give nearly a third of the vote to Trump. That proportion matches up fairly well with states like Maryland and Massachusetts, and I don't see anyone looking to delete the ~3.5 million votes cast there for Clinton. California is a useful football for people to kick around, as some kind of 'evidence' that Trump could have won CA if the electoral system was different - each state has quirks and some unusual voting methods, but the practice of nominating the two largest vote getters, no matter the party isn't unique. Louisiana has it (plus that weird run-off thing!), and managed to elect both Trump and a Republican senator - any screams of unfairness there? |
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Anyone with an ounce of understanding would see this is a religious reference to the birth of Jesus.
Maybe if Liberal Dems weren't so out of touch with Christian values shared by the vast majority of Americans they wouldn't keep losing. |
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When trump does anything people say "christ..."
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You do realize that a Democrat just won a majority of votes last month, right?
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People can moan about the popular vote all they want. It isn't going to change the result.
As for the DNC. The clowns running it are so delusional, I wouldn't be shocked if they tried running with Hilary Clinton again. Then they can scream that her critics are sexist AND ageist. How can they lose? |
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People can moan about the popular vote all they want. It isn't going to change the result.
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Now I'm looking forward rather than the past, I want good relations with Putin and Russia, I want ISIS destroyed.
And lol at the Democratic Party being liberal. Bar some exceptions it's more right wing than May's government. |
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I suspect that you in for a huge disappointment.
And lol at the Democratic Party being liberal. Bar some exceptions it's more right wing than May's government. Which is one thing that makes America so great for me, its nowhere near as liberal as the UK! |
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Well maybe Trump supporters should stop acting like it was a "landslide" or the vast majority wanted Trump. Because they didn't. 3 million more voted for Clinton, and that is a fact, and the fact that Trump lost the popular vote by a big margin is clearly hurting him and his supporters despite him winning the presidency.
You might as well count the amount of bananas in the country, and say however many of them there are, as that number means the same in terms if who wins the election. |
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Yet the republicans won the presidency, the house and senate, in other words they won big league. It was a massive rejection to the liberal policy makers. Now I'm looking forward rather than the past, I want good relations with Putin and Russia, I want ISIS destroyed.
no need to make up a soothing narrative when reality will do. cities are increasingly liberal, non-urban is not. politics is divided, with educated voters and minorities breaking liberal and white, non-college educated breaking conservative. |
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Time will tell.
Which is one thing that makes America so great for me, its nowhere near as liberal as the UK! |
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Hilary Clinton a liberal?
Now that's the best joke I have seen posted in this thread. She's only "liberal" when it's politically safe. |
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So that excludes trump
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The left is in trouble, both in the US and here in the UK. Their core WWC vote has deserted them, and there aren't enough minorities, welfare recipients or latte liberals to get them back into power.
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The left is in trouble, both in the US and here in the UK. Their core WWC vote has deserted them, and there aren't enough minorities, welfare recipients or latte liberals to get them back into power.
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