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No that was never the case, that was reinforced in the hearing today, so you can drop this line of thinking.
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Doesn't mean he doesn't fear it. Any evidence that Russia preferred trump and took measures to "help" would mean trump being, at the very least, embarrassed - which given trump's thin skin is probably not a good idea.
Trump won fair and square, the votes were not tampered with, people voted and the votes were counted, and Trump won in the end, that is without question. People trying to delegitimise Trumps win are in the wrong here. Russia may have wanted Trump to win, who knows, but that doesn't mean that they changed the election in his favour, the two are very different things. |
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Russia may very well have phished the DNC, and planted fake news stories, but that doesn't mean that they won the election for Trump.
Trump won fair and square, the votes were not tampered with, people voted and the votes were counted, and Trump won in the end, that is without question. People trying to delegitimise Trumps win are in the wrong here. Russia may have wanted Trump to win, who knows, but that doesn't mean that they changed the election in his favour, the two are very different things. "Trump won fair and square" Pick one. Again with the fragility. If Russian hacking caused a vote to swing in one direction or the other, we should know about it, investigate it and try to figure out a way to avoid it in the future. Only Trump (and his 'fans') are triggered by this because it means that maybe not everybody loves their God Emperor. Honestly if the shoe was on the other foot, Trump would be making a huge stink about this and Republicans would be out of their flippin' minds. But since it happened to Clinton and the DNC, conservatives don't mind ignoring a foreign government meddling in our elections. I think we know where their loyalties lie. |
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This is the same Trump who indicated he'd only accept the result of the election if it was to his liking. I recall reading this thread at the time and a lot of his supporters argued this was a sensible position for him to take.
Now the CIA say they've uncovered evidence of Russian interference in the election, suddenly it's all irrelevant and we should move on? |
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Assange! Not exactly a credible source to put it mildly.
Assange was also something of a hero to Democrats when he was publishing the indiscretions of the Bush Jr years. Funny that. Quote:
How did Assange know?
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Well James clapper has stated that his finger prints were all over the false data on Iraq wmds...
And you wonder why there are some of us that are suspicious over the Russian hacking allegations |
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For those who might be interested series 6 of Celebrity Apprentice USA is starting on BBC1 at midnight this Sunday. It's an all star season and 'super villain' Omarosa - who has been given a job in his new administration - returns. She has a major fall out with La Toya Jackson in one episode.
Ivanka, Eric and Don Jr reprise their roles as the President elects' advisors. https://youtu.be/geNjA1XtMyM |
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Black and decker opening a new plant in the US because of uncertainty with Mexico and china
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