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Old 23-12-2016, 14:33
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What are you on about?

4x3 vhs as in they take a 21:9 film and pan and scan it to vhs meaning you've watched overly zoomed in films.
There is no "zoom" when a 21:9 image is cropped to 4:3!
You are only having a 4:3 image broadcast with the rest of the original image removed. Nothing is zoomed in on at all.
If you manually change the aspect ratio on your TV so a 21:9 image fills the vertical space then the TV is having to alter, adjust ,zoom the image to make it fit.
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Old 23-12-2016, 14:52
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Am pretty sure there is no difference between UHD and 4K when it comes to the picture size.

Something filmed in 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 will still be in those dimensions in 4K. The picture will just be sharper.

Happy to be corrected if wrong though.
You're not wrong. He was probably joking. They will of course sit inside a 16:9 shaped black (for example) box.
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Old 23-12-2016, 14:57
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What are you on about?

4x3 vhs as in they take a 21:9 film and pan and scan it to vhs meaning you've watched overly zoomed in films.

How is having the ability to zoom in a bit a problem? What you do is don't press the 'zoom' Button.

I watched a blu ray last night and gave all the zoom functions a go, all they do is distort the aspect ratio.

'I don't like it therefore everyone else is silly and selfish' you really have no idea what I'm on about
It's probably worth mentioning that zooming in to fill the screen with a picture 'wider' than 16:9 lowers the effective vertical resolution compared to broadcasting it at full screen height., so it's not going to please everyone. And any decent TV should offer multiple zoom settings that do not distort unless you want them to. If they don't offer that, it's a design issue.
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:25
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You're not wrong. He was probably joking. They will of course sit inside a 16:9 shaped black (for example) box.
4K = 4096 × 2160
UHD = 3840 × 2160

Isn't there a tiny issue there i.e. A bit of cropping etc if dimensions are off by a few pixels on the wide? So something shot in 4K will be cropped a bit if viewed on a 16x9 Tv
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:28
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It's probably worth mentioning that zooming in to fill the screen with a picture 'wider' than 16:9 lowers the effective vertical resolution compared to broadcasting it at full screen height., so it's not going to please everyone. And any decent TV should offer multiple zoom settings that do not distort unless you want them to. If they don't offer that, it's a design issue.
YEah all zoom levels on my Samsung f700 are completely useless - just squishes and enlarges.
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Old 23-12-2016, 18:51
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Am pretty sure there is no difference between UHD and 4K when it comes to the picture size.

Something filmed in 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 will still be in those dimensions in 4K. The picture will just be sharper.

Happy to be corrected if wrong though.
You're right. If only there was a website where he could google all the answers on
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Old 23-12-2016, 19:17
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4K = 4096 × 2160
UHD = 3840 × 2160

Isn't there a tiny issue there i.e. A bit of cropping etc if dimensions are off by a few pixels on the wide? So something shot in 4K will be cropped a bit if viewed on a 16x9 Tv
4096x2160 (4k) will be downscaled to 3840x2160 (UHD) - just as 1920x1080 is downscaled on a 1366x768 HD Ready TV. Nothing is cropped.
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Old 23-12-2016, 20:51
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Am pretty sure there is no difference between UHD and 4K when it comes to the picture size.

Something filmed in 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 will still be in those dimensions in 4K. The picture will just be sharper.

Happy to be corrected if wrong though.
4K = 4096 × 2160
UHD = 3840 × 2160

Think uhd is spot on to fit 16x9, 4K requires re sizing

It all gets scaled to 16x9 apparently thought I think 4K is re jigged into the televisual thingometer to fit with 16x9
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Old 24-12-2016, 00:52
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What are you on about?

4x3 vhs as in they take a 21:9 film and pan and scan it to vhs meaning you've watched overly zoomed in films.

How is having the ability to zoom in a bit a problem? What you do is don't press the 'zoom' Button.

I watched a blu ray last night and gave all the zoom functions a go, all they do is distort the aspect ratio.

'I don't like it therefore everyone else is silly and selfish' you really have no idea what I'm on about
Its actually you that doesn't have a single clue what you're talking about and on top of that, you expect films to be cropped to suit your silly and inane need to fill a screen!
And i see you also have no idea of what an aspect ratio is!
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Old 24-12-2016, 03:19
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4K = 4096 × 2160
UHD = 3840 × 2160

Isn't there a tiny issue there i.e. A bit of cropping etc if dimensions are off by a few pixels on the wide? So something shot in 4K will be cropped a bit if viewed on a 16x9 Tv
For OAR, downscale to 3840 x ~2025 and letterbox it before broadcast.
For fill-screen, crop 128 pixels from each side before broadcast. It would be barely noticeable.
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Old 24-12-2016, 13:11
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Movies for men and moviemax show in OAR - 4:3!!
If it's 4:3 original on the distributed print is 4:3 then that's how they'll show it. They had shown lots of 16:9 letterbox (2.35:1) from way back and likely the main channel to transmit this way along with Channel 4.
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Old 24-12-2016, 13:53
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Its actually you that doesn't have a single clue what you're talking about and on top of that, you expect films to be cropped to suit your silly and inane need to fill a screen!
And i see you also have no idea of what an aspect ratio is!
Completely correct

I watch emmerdale in 4x3 on my rear view projection monitor it's sooooo good especially when I zoom in to the lower third dog
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Old 25-12-2016, 00:18
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Completely correct

I watch emmerdale in 4x3 on my rear view projection monitor it's sooooo good especially when I zoom in to the lower third dog
Atleast we agree on something....
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Old 26-12-2016, 00:44
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Quantum of Solace was on ITV 2 this evening in 2.35:1. The first time a Bond film has been shown in OAR by ITV. I wonder if they have obtained fresh copies or if this was a mistake. Hopefully the others follow suit.
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Old 26-12-2016, 00:47
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Quantum of Solace was on ITV 2 this evening in 2.35:1. The first time a Bond film has been shown in OAR by ITV. I wonder if they have obtained fresh copies or if this was a mistake. Hopefully the others follow suit.
OAR but with ITV, will still have been their edited slashed to hell version.
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Old 26-12-2016, 11:19
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Film4 recently showed Mr Turner in OAR. Rightly, i think, aa any frame clipping wd hav ruined it.
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Old 26-12-2016, 14:44
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Sleeping Beauty on ITV being shown cropped to 1.85:1.
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Old 26-12-2016, 15:44
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OAR but with ITV, will still have been their edited slashed to hell version.
Even at 9pm?
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Old 26-12-2016, 21:13
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Currently on ITV on OAR, somewhat to my surprise.
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Old 26-12-2016, 23:30
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Even after 9pm.
Im amazed you of all people asked me that
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Old 27-12-2016, 11:49
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Even after 9pm.
Im amazed you of all people asked me that
ITV don't tend to censor stuff after 9pm unless they've only got the censored print to hand and are showing that.
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Old 27-12-2016, 14:18
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:15
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Skyfall, showing on ITV2 for the 1st time in OAR. It's good to see that ITV have got new prints of the Bond films, and decided to show them this way for the 1st ime ever.
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Old 27-12-2016, 23:52
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ITV don't tend to censor stuff after 9pm unless they've only got the censored print to hand and are showing that.
ITV edit nearly every film they screen, even post watershed.
Getting the SkyFall in the OAR would mean they got a new print and yet, i guarantee they still cut the f-bomb from M out and cut some of the violence too!
I will see when they're next screening it and watch it, (As painful as that will be to watch an ITV-hacked film) and see.
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Old 28-12-2016, 12:25
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ITV edit nearly every film they screen, even post watershed.
Getting the SkyFall in the OAR would mean they got a new print and yet, i guarantee they still cut the f-bomb from M out and cut some of the violence too!
I will see when they're next screening it and watch it, (As painful as that will be to watch an ITV-hacked film) and see.
Well you won't have long to wait, it's on ITV2 8.00pm New Years Day.
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