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Old 28-12-2016, 12:30
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Happy feet airing in full Cinemascope.
It's been like that for a while. Good that it's still continuing.

Skyfall, showing on ITV2 for the 1st time in OAR. It's good to see that ITV have got new prints of the Bond films, and decided to show them this way for the 1st ime ever.
Technically, there's also a 1.90:1 IMAX print so 16:9 is close. It's opened up rather than cropped, so I don't mind that too much. Sucked as a film, though.

ITV edit nearly every film they screen, even post watershed.
Getting the SkyFall in the OAR would mean they got a new print and yet, i guarantee they still cut the f-bomb from M out and cut some of the violence too!
I will see when they're next screening it and watch it, (As painful as that will be to watch an ITV-hacked film) and see.
I rarely watch a film on ITV anyway, given their lack of DD5.1 (same with C5) but please name a post-watershed film from the past few years that has been cut, and with examples. You're just speculating with Skyfall.
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Old 28-12-2016, 12:37
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Inside Man has always been cut, the single use of the c-word directed towards Jolie Fosters character by the mayor. Not in an aggressive way as it classified 15.
It's been shown numerous times on itv and well after the 9pm watershed
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Old 28-12-2016, 14:04
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I'd say BBC's print of How the West Was Won is currently is widest OAR that's broadcast. Watching it really requires all the lights to be switched off and to sit about 3 feet from the screen!
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Old 28-12-2016, 14:10
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Well done ITV in finally obtaining new prints for the Bond films. The F bomb was cut from sky Skyfall as it was shown at 8pm so as it was pre-watershed starting the swearing after the watershed must abide by the rules. Hopefully this new practice of showing films OAR is a permanent one for ITV.
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Old 28-12-2016, 17:05
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Inside Man has always been cut, the single use of the c-word directed towards Jolie Fosters character by the mayor. Not in an aggressive way as it classified 15.
It's been shown numerous times on itv and well after the 9pm watershed
That's annoying. ITV don't like that word, even though they have allowed it in Silence of the Lambs, while I remember some variants used the alternate line "I can smell your scent."

Well done ITV in finally obtaining new prints for the Bond films. The F bomb was cut from sky Skyfall as it was shown at 8pm so as it was pre-watershed starting the swearing after the watershed must abide by the rules. Hopefully this new practice of showing films OAR is a permanent one for ITV.
Where does the f-word come into the film? Been ages since I saw it. Surely, if the f-word was to come after 9pm, it would be fine?
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Old 28-12-2016, 21:09
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Casino Royale now on ITV 2 in OAR.

The F word is near the end and spoken by Judi Dench. Apparently if the film or programme starts before the watershed then the whole thing must abide by the rules that would be in place at its start time. So no violence or strong language.
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Old 29-12-2016, 00:30
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II rarely watch a film on ITV anyway, given their lack of DD5.1 (same with C5) but please name a post-watershed film from the past few years that has been cut, and with examples. You're just speculating with Skyfall.
Agreed with the 5.1 issue, its tragic they still won't go there, especially with the amount of content they now have that has 5.1!

Films shown post-9pm ITV still cut - Shawn Of The Dead, they hacked out the line where he asks of any of you c***s would like a drink, the scene before it sets up that line and its a great comedic part!
They also have cut various parts out of violence!

American Pie, edited the language used in the first parts of the film and dubbed over some of the f-words to 'idiots' and 'ass'

Bond films in a whole host of places!
SkyFall the f-bomb M drops when she said "I f****d this up haven't i" despite it again being a rather important part of the film as she is showing her utter despair at the fact they're about to go into one hell of a battle at the house!
Various parts of the violence are cut too, for no apparent reason as they're not overly graphic, remember Bond films go for BBFC 12 ratings, its not like its an 18.

I could go on, but they hack the films out all of the time, pre & post watershed, for no reason!
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Old 29-12-2016, 20:13
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Hoping some of the early Bond films end up in there original ratio on ITV..especially Thunderball,You Only Live Twice,On Her Majesty's.. and Diamonds Are Forever.They look great in the way they should do
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:28
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Spike showed Fantastic Voyage in Cinemascope ratio today.
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Old 30-12-2016, 22:34
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Bond films in a whole host of places!
SkyFall the f-bomb M drops when she said "I f****d this up haven't i" despite it again being a rather important part of the film as she is showing her utter despair at the fact they're about to go into one hell of a battle at the house!
Various parts of the violence are cut too, for no apparent reason as they're not overly graphic, remember Bond films go for BBFC 12 ratings, its not like its an 18.

I could go on, but they hack the films out all of the time, pre & post watershed, for no reason!
Ta for all the info. I guess ITV have really f****d this up, haven't they?

Most of the Brosnan and Craig Bonds have ended up being 15-cert on Blu-ray eventually, which makes me annoyed that I've paid for a censored version in the cinema. I knew that with Spectre anyway, but then again, at 2.5hrs, I'd happily have chopped at least 30-40 mins out of it!
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Old 30-12-2016, 23:25
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Ta for all the info. I guess ITV have really f****d this up, haven't they?

Most of the Brosnan and Craig Bonds have ended up being 15-cert on Blu-ray eventually, which makes me annoyed that I've paid for a censored version in the cinema. I knew that with Spectre anyway, but then again, at 2.5hrs, I'd happily have chopped at least 30-40 mins out of it!
LOL Yes, they have.

On the Blu Ray being 15, its not always the film that is either re-edited to include cut scenes resulting in a higher certificate but that the extra's also have to be BBFC rated, and they can result in higher rating than the actual film for various reasons and its the higher rating that must be labelled on the box.

Cinema's usually don't get full fat version of alot of films. You get the 'bigger, longer, uncut, uncensored, extended, harder' editions released for home entertainment and SVOD.
Distributors don't typically send the theatrical version out to broadcasters either if there is a second 'edit' that is longer or 'harder'. Unfortunately the reason they do that is so broadcasters can then decide what to hack from it but a number of studios are now demanding details of what is cut from a film and why and must be approved.
Personally i think the act of cutting a film for TV should be ended and banned under OFCOM rules IMHO but, never going to happen!
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Old 31-12-2016, 00:11
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LOL Yes, they have.

On the Blu Ray being 15, its not always the film that is either re-edited to include cut scenes resulting in a higher certificate but that the extra's also have to be BBFC rated, and they can result in higher rating than the actual film for various reasons and its the higher rating that must be labelled on the box.

Cinema's usually don't get full fat version of alot of films. You get the 'bigger, longer, uncut, uncensored, extended, harder' editions released for home entertainment and SVOD.
Distributors don't typically send the theatrical version out to broadcasters either if there is a second 'edit' that is longer or 'harder'. Unfortunately the reason they do that is so broadcasters can then decide what to hack from it but a number of studios are now demanding details of what is cut from a film and why and must be approved.
Personally i think the act of cutting a film for TV should be ended and banned under OFCOM rules IMHO but, never going to happen!
Never going to happen, you're right, but what should happen, at least, is for the viewer to be informed if and why cuts have been made so that they can make an informed decision whether or not to watch.
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Old 31-12-2016, 12:14
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LOL Yes, they have.

On the Blu Ray being 15, its not always the film that is either re-edited to include cut scenes resulting in a higher certificate but that the extra's also have to be BBFC rated, and they can result in higher rating than the actual film for various reasons and its the higher rating that must be labelled on the box.
Ah, I'll have to look them up individually. I see Goldeneye and Casino Royale are 15-proper, but then again, I just reviewed Sausage Party. 15-rated film, but 18-rated extras, so a big '18' on the cover. Very sneaky!

http://dvd-fever.co.uk/sausage-party...dfever-review/

Distributors don't typically send the theatrical version out to broadcasters either if there is a second 'edit' that is longer or 'harder'. Unfortunately the reason they do that is so broadcasters can then decide what to hack from it but a number of studios are now demanding details of what is cut from a film and why and must be approved.
I thought they got the theatrical version by default. It's a shame when C4 could show a 15-rated Hunger Games, but get the 12-rated one, for example. And when they got the new Evil Dead uncut, that was a one-time thing

Personally i think the act of cutting a film for TV should be ended and banned under OFCOM rules IMHO but, never going to happen!
Sadly, Ofcom are more toothless than a group of 200-year-old pensioners.
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:24
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Disappointed, but not surprised, with channel 5 showing Ben-Hur in 16:9 today
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Old 31-12-2016, 15:35
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Ah, I'll have to look them up individually. I see Goldeneye and Casino Royale are 15-proper, but then again, I just reviewed Sausage Party. 15-rated film, but 18-rated extras, so a big '18' on the cover. Very sneaky!
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I believe it's just those two of the eight Brosnan/Craig films that are now 15's. Tomorrow Never Dies did get bumped up to 15 around 2006 when the Ultimate Editions came out on DVD but has since dropped back down to 12. All three for having previously censored material added back in rather than for the extra's.
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:27
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Can nanyone here explain what profane language has to do with the visual ratio of the actual film? There sis no need for ANY bad language in films...we get enough of that at home!
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:32
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Ah, I'll have to look them up individually. I see Goldeneye and Casino Royale are 15-proper, but then again, I just reviewed Sausage Party. 15-rated film, but 18-rated extras, so a big '18' on the cover. Very sneaky!
check melonfarmers for some good info on Bond films.
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:38
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Disappointed, but not surprised, with channel 5 showing Ben-Hur in 16:9 today
I think only C4 have shown it properly, in 2.66:1. C5 are mostly quite hopeless at the best of times, but it's galling that you know a TV station has access to a proper print, but *chooses* to go with 16:9.

Can nanyone here explain what profane language has to do with the visual ratio of the actual film? There sis no need for ANY bad language in films...we get enough of that at home!
There's no such thing as "bad language". It's "Strong language". And if you'd followed the posts, then you'd know.
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:38
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Surprised to see that ITV is screening the final Harry Potter film in OAR.
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Old 01-01-2017, 00:25
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Can nanyone here explain what profane language has to do with the visual ratio of the actual film? There sis no need for ANY bad language in films...we get enough of that at home!
Read the thread....
And do stop!
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:26
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Surprised to see that ITV is screening the final Harry Potter film in OAR.
They have the last 3 in OAR when they premiered No.6. Why Warner didn't replace the 16:9 prints, god only knows. Or maybe they offered, but I've had an email from ITV, previously, when they said their film dept prefers 16:9 where possible "because that's what people expect". I told them their film dept was depriving a village of an idiot.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:48
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Just watched my recording of this from C5 on Christmas Day. Very strange scheduling but they did show it in OAR.

Unfortunately, last night they screened Reservoir Dogs in 4:3.
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Old 01-01-2017, 22:48
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They have the last 3 in OAR when they premiered No.6. Why Warner didn't replace the 16:9 prints, god only knows. Or maybe they offered, but I've had an email from ITV, previously, when they said their film dept prefers 16:9 where possible "because that's what people expect". I told them their film dept was depriving a village of an idiot.
LOL!
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Old 01-01-2017, 23:19
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"While watching your favourite TV programme, the Unique Smart formatting technology can automatically adapt any content to the 21:9 screen".

Not sure who would want to stretch old 4:3 shows into super widescreen. They would be unwatchable.
They're unwatchable stretched to 16:9
I'm amazed all the major broadcasters do it, people must have doll's eyes.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:09
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They're unwatchable stretched to 16:9
I'm amazed all the major broadcasters do it, people must have doll's eyes.
I wish they wouldn't stretch old 4:3 aspect ratio programmes like this. Even when you buy the DVD of an original series (eg Our Friends in the North), it's the same, with no option to change it. Looks ridiculous and distorted.
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