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A few questions about Jews/Nazism/Concentration Camps
So I've been watching an Anne Frank show today and it was really powerful stuff (I'd recommend anyone to watch it, it was the 2001 TV series 'The Whole Story') but I had a few questions based off of it. I hope they don't sound ignorant but I just don't know that much about that time period. I know there's alot of information online but sometimes you can't really just find a simple answer, every website has huge articles with tons of jargon and references that are a bit overwhelming so I thought I'd maybe see if anyone could explain or answer these in a simpler way -
1. What exactly started the whole antisemitism towards the Jews? A few websites have pointed at them being to blame for Germany losing WW1, while others have said it was simply because Hitler and Nazis wanted to "cleanse" Germany of everyone who they deemed as inferior members of society. 2. Following up on the first question, what was the process like in turning everyone against Jews and slowly isolating them from society before eventually sending them all to camps? It was sort of touched upon in the Anne Frank show that Jews were slowly being taken out of schools and banned from public parks and attractions and stuff, but was this over a spread out period of years or did it happen really quickly? 3. How did Otto Frank manage to survive the camps? I understand he and the others were captured in August 1944 and yet he survived in those horrible conditions until, what, April 1945? I would never have thought it would have been possible to survive so long being starved, living amongst disease and illness, being worked all day, beaten and the mental torture of possibly never seeing your family again or escaping and this is all just putting it lightly. |
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why don't you just look up wikipedia "antisemitism", "kristallnacht", "concentration camp"
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why don't you just look up wikipedia "antisemitism", "kristallnacht", "concentration camp"
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So I've been watching an Anne Frank show today and it was really powerful stuff (I'd recommend anyone to watch it, it was the 2001 TV series 'The Whole Story') but I had a few questions based off of it. I hope they don't sound ignorant but I just don't know that much about that time period. I know there's alot of information online but sometimes you can't really just find a simple answer, every website has huge articles with tons of jargon and references that are a bit overwhelming so I thought I'd maybe see if anyone could explain or answer these in a simpler way -
1. What exactly started the whole antisemitism towards the Jews? A few websites have pointed at them being to blame for Germany losing WW1, while others have said it was simply because Hitler and Nazis wanted to "cleanse" Germany of everyone who they deemed as inferior members of society. 2. Following up on the first question, what was the process like in turning everyone against Jews and slowly isolating them from society before eventually sending them all to camps? It was sort of touched upon in the Anne Frank show that Jews were slowly being taken out of schools and banned from public parks and attractions and stuff, but was this over a spread out period of years or did it happen really quickly? 3. How did Otto Frank manage to survive the camps? I understand he and the others were captured in August 1944 and yet he survived in those horrible conditions until, what, April 1945? I would never have thought it would have been possible to survive so long being starved, living amongst disease and illness, being worked all day, beaten and the mental torture of possibly never seeing your family again or escaping and this is all just putting it lightly. Re No 3, it was luck of the draw really ( if you can say luck) . Some people were mentally and physically stronger than others , some were physically harmed to an extent they could not survive despite their will , some would have had so much they understandably gave up the will to live , some will have died as illness and infection got to them and of course so many were just murdered . There are so many reasons why some people survived and some did not. |
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why don't you just look up wikipedia "antisemitism", "kristallnacht", "concentration camp"
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So, ''describe the history of antisemitism in 140 characters or less''?
It's hundreds of years old (think ''Shylock''), and complicated, but the wikipedia article ''anti semitism'' is pretty good. Or try: religioustolerance.org . |
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Whats the differents between racism, and antisemitism???
Is it possible to be antisemitic, but not racist??? |
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Whats the differents between racism, and antisemitism???
Is it possible to be antisemitic, but not racist??? On a serious note to my mind yes someone could be anti-Semitic and not racist, Judaism is a religion not a specific race as there are many people who follow the Jewish religion of different races |
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As I said in my original post, the articles on those pages are far too long and contain way too much information. I'm just looking for a summary. It would take forever to read those pages.
Your "curiosity" is offensive. |
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So I've been watching an Anne Frank show today and it was really powerful stuff (I'd recommend anyone to watch it, it was the 2001 TV series 'The Whole Story') but I had a few questions based off of it. I hope they don't sound ignorant but I just don't know that much about that time period. I know there's alot of information online but sometimes you can't really just find a simple answer, every website has huge articles with tons of jargon and references that are a bit overwhelming so I thought I'd maybe see if anyone could explain or answer these in a simpler way -
1. What exactly started the whole antisemitism towards the Jews? A few websites have pointed at them being to blame for Germany losing WW1, while others have said it was simply because Hitler and Nazis wanted to "cleanse" Germany of everyone who they deemed as inferior members of society. 2. Following up on the first question, what was the process like in turning everyone against Jews and slowly isolating them from society before eventually sending them all to camps? It was sort of touched upon in the Anne Frank show that Jews were slowly being taken out of schools and banned from public parks and attractions and stuff, but was this over a spread out period of years or did it happen really quickly? 3. How did Otto Frank manage to survive the camps? I understand he and the others were captured in August 1944 and yet he survived in those horrible conditions until, what, April 1945? I would never have thought it would have been possible to survive so long being starved, living amongst disease and illness, being worked all day, beaten and the mental torture of possibly never seeing your family again or escaping and this is all just putting it lightly. The current attitude of blaming immigrants for all Britain's faults at present is kinda similar, although ours is (currently) a watered down version. 2. Public propoganda was used relentlessly, people were encouraged to be good patriotic Germans by joining groups like Hitler Youth etc. The free press was banned. The public was relentlessly fed a diet of the nations ills being blamed on the Jews. (kinda similar to the Anti immigrant stories you read these days in the Daily Mail & Express) Dont forget racism in general was considerably worse than now, there had never been any real anti-racism movements so the majority population were far more susceptible to racist ideology. Society wasn't multicultural so most Germans woudnt have known Jews personally. People didnt really think about the feelings of the Jews, it was an irrelevance. The Nazi's went from negative propogranda to death camps in under 10 years so I'd say that was quick wouldnt you? 3. There's a fascinating book "Otto" written about Otto's life, including his times in the camps. He survived how other did, by using his guile. I think he had some kind of skills that enabled him to survive, I don't remember the details. He was quite ill in the camps for a while. After he left he went looking for his family but found out they were all dead. |
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As I said in my original post, the articles on those pages are far too long and contain way too much information. I'm just looking for a summary. It would take forever to read those pages.
If you can't handle a wiki page how an you even begin to contemplate reading a book on the subject?? ![]() :I'm gobsmacked to read the above comment. How do you think people LEARN? Even Wiki itself is a very basic introduction to ANY subject. You do realise don't you, that any comments you are given on here are just peoples opinions & impressions? Someone might give you a strong impression of an event & it be utterly inaccurate. You need to READ a few accounts & perhaps see a few documentaries to get a more rounded view. I presume you are young- under 30? Reading is VITALLY important if you are ever develop a full rounded education. Not all things can be explained in Twitter sized bites! Sometimes I could weep for the future!
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I may be wrong, as I have a bit of a cold, but I smell disingenuity quite strongly here.
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As I said in my original post, the articles on those pages are far too long and contain way too much information. I'm just looking for a summary. It would take forever to read those pages.
Sure. It's much easier to co-opt as many non-experts as you can and ask them to provide the Janet and John version, or something like the blurb off the back of Antisemitism for Dummies.
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As I said in my original post, the articles on those pages are far too long and contain way too much information. I'm just looking for a summary. It would take forever to read those pages.
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So I've been watching an Anne Frank show today and it was really powerful stuff (I'd recommend anyone to watch it, it was the 2001 TV series 'The Whole Story') but I had a few questions based off of it. I hope they don't sound ignorant but I just don't know that much about that time period. I know there's alot of information online but sometimes you can't really just find a simple answer, every website has huge articles with tons of jargon and references that are a bit overwhelming so I thought I'd maybe see if anyone could explain or answer these in a simpler way -
1. What exactly started the whole antisemitism towards the Jews? A few websites have pointed at them being to blame for Germany losing WW1, while others have said it was simply because Hitler and Nazis wanted to "cleanse" Germany of everyone who they deemed as inferior members of society. 2. Following up on the first question, what was the process like in turning everyone against Jews and slowly isolating them from society before eventually sending them all to camps? It was sort of touched upon in the Anne Frank show that Jews were slowly being taken out of schools and banned from public parks and attractions and stuff, but was this over a spread out period of years or did it happen really quickly? 3. How did Otto Frank manage to survive the camps? I understand he and the others were captured in August 1944 and yet he survived in those horrible conditions until, what, April 1945? I would never have thought it would have been possible to survive so long being starved, living amongst disease and illness, being worked all day, beaten and the mental torture of possibly never seeing your family again or escaping and this is all just putting it lightly. |
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Is the OP for real ?
Go to a library, they are very 19th century and shit, but books are good, they give you information, the type of information you're looking for I'd guess. Some things you can't simplify, or abridge, the Holocaust is one of them. |
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I'm surprised at some of the hostile replies I've had.
The Wikipedia articles (and other websites) are HUGE walls of text. Yes, that's great and very informative but all I simply am looking for is a summary. I KNOW you can't possibly compress everything into a small paragraph but one poster above managed to give a few paragraphs which was detailed enough and was what I was looking for and also gives me something to work with in terms of web searches, specific names, dates etc to research. I can't believe this is the reaction someone gets for wanting to learn something. Jeez. Unbelievable reaction. |
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I'm surprised at some of the hostile replies I've had.
The Wikipedia articles (and other websites) are HUGE walls of text. Yes, that's great and very informative but all I simply am looking for is a summary. I KNOW you can't possibly compress everything into a small paragraph but one poster above managed to give a few paragraphs which was detailed enough and was what I was looking for and also gives me something to work with in terms of web searches, specific names, dates etc to research. I can't believe this is the reaction someone gets for wanting to learn something. Jeez. Unbelievable reaction. |
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I'm surprised at some of the hostile replies I've had.
The Wikipedia articles (and other websites) are HUGE walls of text. Yes, that's great and very informative but all I simply am looking for is a summary. I KNOW you can't possibly compress everything into a small paragraph but one poster above managed to give a few paragraphs which was detailed enough and was what I was looking for and also gives me something to work with in terms of web searches, specific names, dates etc to research. I can't believe this is the reaction someone gets for wanting to learn something. Jeez. Unbelievable reaction. |
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There is a film out at the moment called 'Denial' about a court case where an accuser has to prove the Holocaust happened so they can sue a Holocaust denier. Quote:
Based on the acclaimed book “History on Trial: My Day in Court with a Holocaust Denier,” DENIAL recounts Deborah E. Lipstadt’s (Academy Award winner Rachel Weisz) legal battle for historical truth against David Irving (Cannes Award winner Timothy Spall), who accused her of libel when she declared him a Holocaust denier. In the English legal system, the burden of proof is on the accused, therefore it was up to Lipstadt and her legal team to prove the essential truth that the Holocaust occurred.
Sounds interesting and might be educational to the OP and anyone interested in the subject.
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There is a film out at the moment called 'Denial' about a court case where an accuser has to prove the Holocaust happened so they can sue a Holocaust denier.
Sounds interesting and might be educational to the OP and anyone interested in the subject. |
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i did offer to posts links.
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i did offer to posts links.
That would be great thanks.
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Hi, yeah, please.
That would be great thanks.
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I don't think he was really interested, annette.
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Hi, yeah, please.
That would be great thanks.i`ll just find them in my videos and i`ll come back and post a y/t playlist. |
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Sure. It's much easier to co-opt as many non-experts as you can and ask them to provide the Janet and John version, or something like the blurb off the back of Antisemitism for Dummies.
That would be great thanks.