It still makes her a divisive and possibly dangerous figure though. There would be a lot of unpleasant people out there who actually think she is being sincere and who feel emboldened in their nastiness having read or listened to her.

You referring to Blackman?

He absolutely should be in prison and I strongly oppose efforts to get him bail pending an appeal. The guy knew exactly what he was doing as he cold bloodedly shot dead an injured helpless man. He even admitted that what he was doing contravened the Geneva convention - captured on helmet cam.

It doesn't matter what the enemy might or might not do. We don't kill enemy soldiers who are at our mercy.

Sounds believable.

As for Hopkins, she just talks more offensive bullshit with every passing day.

With regard to the Mahmood's, I'm pretty there was a thread on GD about their problems getting into the USA at the time, and they quite rightly got a lot of sympathy.

Good job we didn't investigate anyone after WW2 then. A lot of those 'heroes' we commemorate with a tear in our eye would be locked up for murder.

How many battlefield prisoners were shot out of hand?

The Japanese were a particular example. Once soldiers experienced their mates being killed by a 'surrendering' Japanese soldier with an hidden grenade or somesuch. Quite common in the early stages of the war, they just killed them out of hand.

It is all admitted and the soldiers justified it to themselves. The casualty figures for battles involving the Japanese are extraordinary, very few prisoners, very few wounded, nearly all killed.

Looks like there were thousands upon thousands of murderers in the USA, UK, Australian forces etc.

We have just convicted a 101 year old, for a lesser offence, so perhaps we had better start looking amongst those surviving soldiers for the murderers.



Maggie

For those who are grammatically challenged it is either "some money" or "a sum of money".

Probably predictive texting.

As Michael_Eve kindly pointed out, this is the exact opposite of what I was saying. Perhaps a quick re-read of my post is in order...

Couldn't agree more. She's a parasite who feeds on the hate she generates. What's worse is that her 'supporters' can't see she has nothing but contempt for them, because she knows what she's saying is crap and yet these people seek to defend her at every turn, as if there was an ounce of sincerity in anything she says or does.

That's a completely different set of circumstances, since the 'grenade trick' provided justification for those killings.

On the other hand, I'd be very surprised if there weren't unnecessary killings during any of the major wars, on both sides of the conflict. And if any of those were captured on camera, I'd expect them to be prosecuted as murder, too. And if not, I'd want to know why not.

That's not the same thing. During the Second World War, the Geneva Convention only applied to soldiers from countries who were signatories to it, which didn't include Japan. It was after WW2 that the rules were changed and Geneva Convention rules had to be applied to everyone by signatory countries' armed forces, regardless of whether the enemy was from a signatory country themselves.

Blackman knew he was breaching the Geneva Convention when he took the shot, he was heard saying so on camera.

She's an absolutely vile and reprehensible creature. But I guess that's what we're supposed to think.

Or he put him out of his misery.

Are you justifying murder?

I was listening to her LBC show in which she made the point of refusing to believe in the benefits of breast feeding.

Her arguments centeral point simply because 'breast is best' rhymes doesn't make it true in the same way 'speedo means peado' rhymes but isn't true.

The women is literally damaging the health of our country.

Best just to ignore her and the DM. The oxygen of publicity is what keeps them going.

He's already lied about what he did. He said he shot what he thought was a dead man to take his anger out on his corpse. Helmet cam evidence proved unequivocally that he was lying and it was murder.
When he shot him he said “Shuffle off this mortal coil you c***. It’s nothing you wouldn’t do to us.” He then ordered the prisoner to be moved out of sight but was unaware that the incident was being recorded by a camera on a comrade’s helmet. He told those under his command to keep quiet about what they had just seen: “Obviously this doesn’t go anywhere, fellas. I just broke the Geneva Convention.”


OP, I wonder if there's a chance the Mail will sack Hopkins in a fit of uncharacteristic conscience. Fingers crossed.

This payout is probably a drop in the ocean given the amount of publicity and infamy she generates for them. Mad Mel wasn't cutting it so they replaced her with this!

Doesn't that make him a war criminal?

People who find it easy to spot trolls online seem to have a blindspot when it comes to Hopkins in real-life. She is nothing more than a paid professional troll who will say anything to get a reaction. It's transparently obvious that's all she's about and yet she makes a very comfortable living because people seem to want to be annoyed by her and wilfully ignore the obvious in order to get worked up by her drivel. It's a most curious symbiotic relationship.

I suppose when you saw one of your mates shoot an unarmed Japanese soldier, you would have turned him in, given evidence against him, all in the name of justice?

Apart from people like you though, who are clearly signalling their virtue, why didn't these soldiers do that?

Nobody got a conscience other than you? Nobody has any sense of justice?



Maggie

As it appears that the more appalling you are the more people are prepared to follow you (see under Trump, D Farage N) she will probably be our next PM.

It's already been pointed out that the treatment of Japanese soldiers at the end of WWII was in part justified by their trickery. After being caught out numerous times by enemy combatants pretending to surrender before detonating explosives, Allied forces could no longer afford to take any chances. Under those circumstances, there was nothing to report, and no reason for 'evidence' in a court of law.


Ah, now I getcha. "Virtue signalling", a phrase used as code by the hard Right to denounce other people's sense of decency and fair-play. Qualities which are completely alien to those who use phrases like 'virtue signalling'...

What is wrong with her?
Does she actually believe all the rubbish that she comes out with

Even if she doesn't, plenty of the people who read what she says do. This forum itself is a case in point.