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Joanna Lumley - Gurkhas/Nepalese - Aldershot & Farnborough
Does Joanna Lumley struggle to get a GP appointment due to the absolute huge number of ELDERLY Gurkhas/Nepalese where she lives?
Whilst many YOUNG migrants may not need much health care the very elderly Gurkhas do need a lot of medical treatment and clog up the system. Is it only people that are not affected by strain on public services that campaign for a free for all? |
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The Gurkhas have done a lot for this country, the occasional doctors appointment is the very least we can offer in return IMHO.
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Does Joanna Lumley struggle to get a GP appointment due to the absolute huge number of ELDERLY Gurkhas/Nepalese where she lives?
Whilst many YOUNG migrants may not need much health care the very elderly Gurkhas do need a lot of medical treatment and clog up the system. Is it only people that are not affected by strain on public services that campaign for a free for all? Good one. |
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is this some new flavour of bigotry?
my daughter lives in the area, they don`t have a problem where they`re stationed but then they don`t think of people as us and them either. |
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is this some new flavour of bigotry?
An educational link for our underscored and recent OP: http://www.army.mod.uk/gurkhas/27784.aspx |
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Aldershot: the town turning away the Gurkhas:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-Gurkhas.html Lumley's Legacy of Misery: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-terribly.html |
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Does Joanna Lumley struggle to get a GP appointment due to the absolute huge number of ELDERLY Gurkhas/Nepalese where she lives?
Whilst many YOUNG migrants may not need much health care the very elderly Gurkhas do need a lot of medical treatment and clog up the system. Is it only people that are not affected by strain on public services that campaign for a free for all? 1 Joanna Lumley was a figurehead for a small group of people who all had a vested interest in bringing in large numbers of Gurkhas. That doesn't excuse her behaviour but it might help to put it in context. 2. The whole country was fooled and manipulated into thinking that these Gurkhas dearest wish was to settle in a country that most of them had never visited. The reality is that the majority were pushed here by dependents who wanted to be economic migrants no different from anyone else. 3. Lumley and co were supported by a whole mass of the public who really didn't have a clue about Gurkhas apart from swallowing the myths, but were ready to claim that "It's not about dependents" or that "Gurkhas would be too proud to accept benefits" 4 People who really knew the situation AND had the Gurkhas welfare at heart, were simply shouted down by the mob. |
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Guess the haters don't take a break for Christmas.
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Guess the haters don't take a break for Christmas.
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Aldershot: the town turning away the Gurkhas:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-Gurkhas.html Lumley's Legacy of Misery: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-terribly.html Quote:
Following her 2008 Gurkha campaign, the government a year later announced that all Gurkha veterans who served for four years or more in the British Army before 1997 would be allowed to settle. http://www.gethampshire.co.uk/news/l...anding-9343915
Rushmoor borough, with its historic army links, is now home to around 10,000 people of Nepalese descent, many of whom come from ex-Gurkha families. However, in an interview with the Daily Mail last week, Lumley responded angrily to suggestions that many Gurkha veterans living in Aldershot, home of the British Army, had become disillusioned following the 2009 ruling. “We’ve a 98% success rate and you’re going to ask me about the hardship of people in Aldershot who hate having brown-skinned people there?” she told columnist Jane Fryer. “I so hate racism: I can’t even talk about it. It makes me foam-flecked. It makes me murderous. It makes me white with rage. “We’re not going there, darling, otherwise I’ll have to go down and kill people in Aldershot, which would be awful.” Sir Gerald Howarth, MP for Aldershot, was damning in his response to Ms Lumley’s comments, saying: “The airy-fairy article serves only to reveal Joanna Lumley’s arrogant dismissal of the entirely legitimate concerns of the people of Aldershot. “It also exposes her ignorance of the extraordinary efforts made by people to accommodate and befriend the thousands of elderly, non-English speaking Nepalese who have settled in Aldershot and the surrounding area as a result of her emotional campaign. “If she had come, she would have seen the Rotary clubs collecting £22,000 to help earthquake victims, she would have seen people taking clothing, bedding and emergency supplies to the Gurkha welfare centres, or other fundraising activities. “Instead, she chose to insult the good people of Aldershot, even suggesting ‘having to go down and kill people’. Those remarks may have been made in jest but they have caused great offence, for which she should now publicly apologise.” Justin Coll, chairman of Aldershot Civic Society, said Lumley’s comments spoke only of a ‘very small’ minority in the town. “I am disappointed by this,” he said. “She needs to come to Aldershot in 2015 before making these kind of silly comments. It is such a sweeping generalisation. “Aldershot has massive historical links with the Gurkhas and has benefited immensely from them being here. I think most people now realise this. “Every community has people at each extreme but to tar everyone like this is very sad. The vast majority of people in Aldershot are welcoming of all people.” |
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Nice of you to point out the MP for the area is not pro-Gurkha himself and is aware of the strain.
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Aldershot MP Gerald Howarth said:
Howarth said the problem was not with Gurkhas who had just left the army as they tended to be “young, fit and very fluent in English” as well as “very qualified” and able to find work. Rather it came from the number of Nepalese coming to the UK who had left the British Army as long ago as the 1970s who were now elderly, in poor health and who did not speak English very well. He said: “The problem arises because in 2009 the government decided, in the face of the pretty disgraceful campaign by Joanna Lumley, I don’t entirely blame her, but it was an entirely emotional campaign, which resulted in all those who had left the army before 1997 given the entitlement to come to the UK.” He added: “They don’t understand our customs.” Howarth said his constituents were “absolutely fed up” and some had told him they would leave Aldershot if the situation did not change. “If they say something they get accused of being racist, it’s their town,” he said. “It’s not fair on them and it’s not fair on the elderly Gurkhas,” he added. “The people of Aldershot and Farnbourgh require a solution.” http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_1381743.html |
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Nice of you to point out the MP for the area is not pro-Gurkha himself and is aware of the strain.
who were you last time? |
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The Gurkhas have done a lot for this country, the occasional doctors appointment is the very least we can offer in return IMHO.
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I live in Folkestone and we have a largest Nepalese population down here. Generally I find them very friendly although they can be rather loud on the mobile on trains - not a crime I think.
Feel that as they were in the British Army they should have the same rights as anyone else in the army. Never actually noticed any at my local doctors surgery though. |
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I live in Folkestone and we have a largest Nepalese population down here. Generally I find them very friendly although they can be rather loud on the mobile on trains - not a crime I think.
Feel that as they were in the British Army they should have the same rights as anyone else in the army. Never actually noticed any at my local doctors surgery though. In Kent, in the main, the elderly have been absorbed into already established households of relatives and are less of a strain of local facilities. However, in Aldershot and Reading, many of the elderly Gurkhas have ended up there courtesy of the local 'Mr Fixit' Gurkha organisations and once here, left to their own devices which has inevitably put much strain on services and to a lesser extent in Reading. Folk may not agree that Lumley was the dupe of others who stood to gain a great deal of money out of her success, but there is certainly an argument that this was the case; http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...o-1935887.html http://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/u...urkha-veteran/ |
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Fair comment, but although there is a large Gurkha population in the Folkestone/Ashford/Maidstone areas, the demographics are a bit different from Aldershot and Reading.
In Kent, in the main, the elderly have been absorbed into already established households of relatives and are less of a strain of local facilities. However, in Aldershot and Reading, many of the elderly Gurkhas have ended up there courtesy of the local 'Mr Fixit' Gurkha organisations and once here, left to their own devices which has inevitably put much strain on services and to a lesser extent in Reading. Folk may not agree that Lumley was the dupe of others who stood to gain a great deal of money out of her success, but there is certainly an argument that this was the case; http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...o-1935887.html http://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/u...urkha-veteran/ 4 Gurkha families have bought houses in our road. Couldn't wish for better neighbours. |
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4 Gurkha families have bought houses in our road. Couldn't wish for better neighbours.
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lots of ghurkas where my daughter is [reading], they`re well respected there too.
Public services in Reading are not at breaking point like in Aldershot and Farnborough. Reading and Aldershot are about 25 miles apart in different counties under totally different local authorities. |
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Situation in Reading is a lot different to the one in Aldershot and Farnborough.
Public services in Reading are not at breaking point like in Aldershot and Farnborough. Reading and Aldershot are about 25 miles apart in different counties under totally different local authorities. |
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I've lived in both towns, there is no issue.
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I've lived in both towns, there is no issue.
Not entirely sure of the veracity of this but many people have told me that Nepalese people in Aldershot openly defecate in the street/supermarket/buses etc. I know it sounds absolutely ridiculous but it is true. No-one can truly believe it because it sounds so ridiculous but it is true. Apparently is it quite common. |
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Which years?
Not entirely sure of the veracity of this but many people have told me that Nepalese people in Aldershot openly defecate in the street/supermarket/buses etc. I know it sounds absolutely ridiculous but it is true. No-one can truly believe it because it sounds so ridiculous but it is true. Apparently is it quite common. The main problem is that a large number of them, mostly elderly, have moved into the town over a short period of time, with little infrastructure and supporting services in place for this influx. I have no problem with them. They are extremely courteous and have impeccable manners. |
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