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Russian Ambassador to Turkey Assasinated in Ankara
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MARTYM8
19-12-2016
The Russian ambassador to Turkey has been shot dead while making a speech in Ankara. This has now been confirmed by the Russian foreign ministry.

The assassin reportedly shouted out that this was revenge for Aleppo.

http://www.france24.com/en/breaking/...ate=2016-12-19
trevgo
19-12-2016
I do hope this is not an Arch Duke Ferdinand moment.
Cheetah666
19-12-2016
Oh sheet.
batdude_uk1
19-12-2016
It is always interesting when the word assassinated is used, rather than murdered, when they are basically the same thing.
Mark_Jones9
19-12-2016
Shot on live TV by a Turkish police office shouting "God is Greatest, We die in Aleppo, you die here"
G926
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by trevgo:
“I do hope this is not an Arch Duke Ferdinand moment.”

This very well could be.
Turkey as a geographical location is key for NATO, but their actions in the last couple of years concerning Russia could drag us into a conflict.
They are a bit of a rogue NATO member IMO.

tiggertiny
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“It is always interesting when the word assassinated is used, rather than murdered, when they are basically the same thing.”

The word is mainly used to describe political killing or a killing done for politicial reasons.
Straker
19-12-2016
RT has moving footage and audio of the killer. Sky just seem to have stills. Are they self-censoring or have I just nor chanced upon it at the right times?
Palafrugel
19-12-2016
It wont be a watershed moment because Turkey is a valuable member of NATO etc etc...

Seems the assassin was a member of the Turkish security forces.
eggchen
19-12-2016
Video of shooting on YouTube - Discretion advised

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mhuki7Bs7rA
Palafrugel
19-12-2016
I wonder if the French will colour the Eiffel Tower in solidarity with the assassinated Russian ambassador tonight?
Palafrugel
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“Video of shooting on YouTube - Discretion advised

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mhuki7Bs7rA”

I count at least 8 shots fired at the ambassador. Seems he emptied the clip on the ambassador.
D_Mcd4
19-12-2016
If Turkey can't protect foreign ambassadors from being murdered they need to feel the cold.
Palafrugel
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by D_Mcd4:
“If Turkey can't protect foreign ambassadors from being murdered they need to feel the cold.”

Turkey has NATO immunity. Untouchable.
Sport1
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by D_Mcd4:
“If Turkey can't protect foreign ambassadors from being murdered they need to feel the cold.”

In what way?
Joan_Ferguson
19-12-2016
RT showing pictures of the shooter lying dead with his shirt smeared with blood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ6YeSANJ-w
lemoncurd
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Palafrugel:
“Turkey has NATO immunity. Untouchable.”

What is "NATO immunity"? I'd say it's fairly meaningless. If Putin wants to drive his forces into Ankara, all guns blazing, I can't see Trump or May willing to get involved.
MidnightFalcon
19-12-2016
Obama did say there would be repercussions......
Dingbat
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by lemoncurd:
“What is "NATO immunity"? I'd say it's fairly meaningless. If Putin wants to drive his forces into Ankara, all guns blazing, I can't see Trump or May willing to get involved.”

Really? Ever heard of Incirlik Air Base, as used by both Turkey AND the US Air Force?

Even the Donald wouldn't want to risk anything happening to that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incirlik_Air_Base
Alrightmate
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Jones9:
“Shot on live TV by a Turkish police office shouting "God is Greatest, We die in Aleppo, you die here"”

That's their police?
lemoncurd
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dingbat:
“Really? Ever heard of Incirlik Air Base, as used by both Turkey AND the US Air Force?

Even the Donald wouldn't want to risk anything happening to that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incirlik_Air_Base”

Donald would just extricate any US assets from the air-base before anything could devalue them.
Palafrugel
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by lemoncurd:
“What is "NATO immunity"? I'd say it's fairly meaningless. If Putin wants to drive his forces into Ankara, all guns blazing, I can't see Trump or May willing to get involved.”

There is a reason why every single Tory begins discussing anything to do with Turkey by saying, 'Turkey is an important NATO ally.' Russia is toothless against Turkey because of this and both sides are aware of this.

Turkey holds NATO/US nukes in its southern airbase. Turkey is aware that it is untouchable.
Alrightmate
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“Video of shooting on YouTube - Discretion advised

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mhuki7Bs7rA”

Where on earth is the security there?
Usually when these things happen you have loads of security people swarming the assailant. Here the man is just there on his own ranting. No one there to apprehend him. Nothing.

But apparently HE was the security. The mind boggles.
Dingbat
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by lemoncurd:
“Donald would just extricate any US assets from the air-base before anything could devalue them.”

It would take quite some time to relocate the tactical nuclear weapons stored there. Even if Trump caved in to Putin - which in turn would be political suicide for him at home, anyway.
Alrightmate
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Palafrugel:
“Turkey has NATO immunity. Untouchable.”

How is that even possible with a state like that? It appears to be as much of a rogue state as a rogue state can be as we understand the term to mean.
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