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A truck has ploughed into a Christmas market in Berlin.
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WhatJoeThinks
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Horza's Drone:
“Religious zealotry is a form of mental illness anyway. You could argue that all religious belief is in some way or another.”

What about "Love thy neighbour"? Is that a form of mental illness in some way or another?
gemma-the-husky
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by James2001:
“This is Digitalspy, of course it's the first thing people think about.

And you'll be able to smell the disapointment in the air if it isn't a Muslim.”

Well I venture its not an accident
francie
19-12-2016
Dead passenger was Polish, driver nationality unknown.
samantha_vine
19-12-2016
I find it a bit low people trying to point score and blame merkel
It could have been a full German national who carried out the attack
stargazer61
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by big bro geek:
“What i find incredible is how calm everyone is. Don't mean it in a bad way, btw”

Think the initial reaction is to flee although many may have thought it was initially just an accident. Others tend to see the injured around them and stop to help, their own fears being overridden by seeing so many injured people in need of help. Others may simply be in shock and wandering aimlessly around.

What is odd is that many people say they could not cope if they saw an accident when, in reality, when confronted with an awful situation, cope admirably!
razorback Tony
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“You think that Islamic terrorists' aim is to gaud people into "kicking Muslim ass"? ”

Yes I do, for the reason that I already stated.

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Yes, they want a holy war aka jihad”

See what I mean Joe, I'm not a lone thinker.

Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Islamic terrorism is jihad, isn't it? I don't think that, as Tony suggested, they do this in order that other Muslims get their asses kicked though.”

Probably not, but what a publicity coup for them when it does happen, they must love it.
johhn
19-12-2016
The driver would probably be assessed and regarded as having mental problems.
Twitter and FB will be ordered by German government to delete all offensive comments.
WhatJoeThinks
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by samantha_vine:
“I find it a bit low people trying to point score and blame merkel
It could have been a full German national who carried out the attack”

They only blame Angela Merkel because they have no idea who Joachim Gauck is, or anything about politics in general, but they like joining in with all the finger pointing.
Brandy211
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Think the initial reaction is to flee although many may have thought it was initially just an accident. Others tend to see the injured around them and stop to help, their own fears being overridden by seeing so many injured people in need of help. Others may simply be in shock and wandering aimlessly around.

What is odd is that many people say they could not cope if they saw an accident when, in reality, when confronted with an awful situation, cope admirably!”

The first reaction is unpredictable. Most likely shock.

It,s probably only afterwards, they realise the extent of the situation they were in.
gemma-the-husky
19-12-2016
When will we be able to figure out what the hell is going on? Will it take a long while?
WhatJoeThinks
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by razorback Tony:
“Yes I do, for the reason that I already stated.

See what I mean Joe, I'm not a lone thinker.

Probably not, but what a publicity coup for them when it does happen, they must love it.”

Whether you are a 'lone thinker' is irrelevant. I'm still baffled as to why you'd think that what (some) Muslims want is for other Muslims to suffer.
Cheetah666
19-12-2016
The dead passenger has been confirmed as Polish, the man under arrest is either Pakistani or Afghani.
francie
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by big bro geek:
“What i find incredible is how calm everyone is. Don't mean it in a bad way, btw”

Running on adrenaline I suppose. Shock of what they see will perhaps catch up with them later on. Not scenes (of what I imagine that video is showing) I'd like in my mind.
planets
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Whether you are a 'lone thinker' is irrelevant. I'm still baffled as to why you'd think that what (some) Muslims want is for other Muslims to suffer.”

Erm.....Syria.
and
Isis, Al-Quaeda, the multitude of other Islamic terror groups targeting muslims all over the globe in Africa, The Middle East, Indonesia for the last decade and more.
On a smaller scale the muslim guy who drove to Scotland to murder the "other" muslim guy because he was the wrong sort of muslim.
Union Jock
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“What about "Love thy neighbour"? Is that a form of mental illness in some way or another?”

Yes what about it, so far you haven't shown any compassion for the victims of this attack, all you've done is to try and deny it was one.
stvn758
19-12-2016
The BBC really are starting to grate, they are literally becoming a meme - lorry kills 9 at Christmas market. An articulated lorry has ploughed into a busy Christmas market in the heart of Berlin, killing nine people and injuring many more, police say.

Not even entertaining the notion it's a terrorist attack, blaming the lorry.
WhatJoeThinks
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by planets:
“Erm.....Syria.
and
Isis, Al-Quaeda, the multitude of other Islamic terror groups targeting muslims all over the globe in Africa, The Middle East, Indonesia for the last decade and more. ”

I wasn't talking generally. I was specifically referring to Tony's earlier post, responding to andersonsonson:

Originally Posted by razorback Tony:
“No it won't, but if and when normally law abiding Germans unlawfully, but understandably, crack and begin to kick Muslim ass because of this, it plays well to the folks back home, who are told, "see, this is what the West does to our brothers and sisters, come get measured for your suicide vest, or take HGV driving lessons."”

francie
19-12-2016
"There are "growing indications" that the arrested lorry driver is Pakistani, Welt reports (in German).

Berlin police have made no public comments on the claim. " http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-38370364
D_Mcd4
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by kidspud:
“Is that really the first thing you think about. ”

Isn't it the first thing most others thought too? However uncomfortable that may be. A lot of people would be immediately reminded of Nice even if it had been an accident.
Caxton
19-12-2016
How easy it is to hijack a lorry with just a gun. Wait until the lorry stops stop, shoot the driver push him off the driver's seat. and just take to lorry. Probably more effective than a bomb, it is frightening. This could have been a petrol tanker.
francie
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by razorback Tony:
“No it won't, but if and when normally law abiding Germans unlawfully, but understandably, crack and begin to kick Muslim ass because of this, it plays well to the folks back home, who are told, "see, this is what the West does to our brothers and sisters, come get measured for your suicide vest, or take HGV driving lessons."”

Propaganda for them.
Penny Crayon
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“When will we be able to figure out what the hell is going on? Will it take a long while?”

I would have thought a full and thorough investigation will be going on before they release any news. I would have thought that's the only correct and sensible way to go about it.

Why do people need to know everything immediately? These things take time and need to be handled correctly.
Armi
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by francie:
“"There are "growing indications" that the arrested lorry driver is Pakistani, Welt reports (in German).

Berlin police have made no public comments on the claim. " http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-38370364”

Probably from here.
sutie
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blairdennon:
“What are they fanatical about?”




Yes, it would SEEM to have some relevance.
WhatJoeThinks
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Union Jock:
“Yes what about it, so far you haven't shown any compassion for the victims of this attack, all you've done is to try and deny it was one.”

My question is, given that you said you could argue that all religious belief is a form of mental illness, how do you reconcile that with religious beliefs such as "Love thy neighbour"? There's nothing mental about that, is there?

As for me not showing any compassion, I assure you that I feel for those who have been affected. Nine people are most certainly dead and 50-odd more are injured. Regardless of whether this was deliberate it's pretty shocking. I thought that went without saying. Apparently not.

I haven't once denied that this was a terrorist attack, by the way. Not once. You have obviously misunderstood.
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