So merkal got voted in to protect the well being of the German people. I'll give her 1/10.
A truck has ploughed into a Christmas market in Berlin.
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I read (on the BBC site) that a witness ran after the driver (from a distance) and called the police.
What excellent quick thinking when the natural reaction would probably be to stay at the scene and help the injured. His actions ensured that the driver was caught in good time otherwise he might have escaped entirely.
What excellent quick thinking when the natural reaction would probably be to stay at the scene and help the injured. His actions ensured that the driver was caught in good time otherwise he might have escaped entirely.
Originally Posted by James2001:
“Typical DS drooling for it to be a Muslim terrorist attack so it can fuel their prejducies and allow for more Islam bashing.”
“Typical DS drooling for it to be a Muslim terrorist attack so it can fuel their prejducies and allow for more Islam bashing.”
How many live with you ?
This appears to be a terrorist act in the name of Islam, by a Pakastani jihadist. I mean, it's no surprise. Why do people find it so hard to admit the truth about this?
Terrorism and religion are not mutually exclusIve. They go hand in hand sadly.
Terrorism and religion are not mutually exclusIve. They go hand in hand sadly.
It appears then that the attacker is a migrant allowed in during February 2016 from either Afghanistan or Pakistan ? , Well done Merkel , I hope you go visit all the families , take election posters with you for good measure!
Originally Posted by asyousay:
“Does anybody actually still live in Poland as a group of us got on a coach to Stratford Upon Avon a few weeks ago and I was generally amazed at the fact 90% of the bus was filled with Polish people going to Coventry and every other person in London is now Polish.”
“Does anybody actually still live in Poland as a group of us got on a coach to Stratford Upon Avon a few weeks ago and I was generally amazed at the fact 90% of the bus was filled with Polish people going to Coventry and every other person in London is now Polish.”
Given that the population of the UK rises by about 350,000 a year - and that's just the 'legal' ones - while the population of Poland decreases every year, I'd say there's a slight imbalance with regard to 'freedom of movement'.
But... I wonder what could be attracting them here??
Originally Posted by scottie2121:
“What's the poster's age got to do with their comments?????”
“What's the poster's age got to do with their comments?????”
Their profile's public so it's perfectly acceptable to comment on it and it's a seemingly common attitude with the older generation - Round all immigrants up and put "them" somewhere else.
It seems some are emboldened by Brexit to publicly air these xenophobic views as if we should all go along with it without comment. What this kind of attitude has to do with one, as yet unexplained, maniac is hard to fathom. Using this appalling incident as an excuse to say "Round 'em up and deport 'em all" is frankly, disgraceful.
Who else in history was a big fan of mass deportation and exclusion?
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
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Smilies appropriate for this thread are they?
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“I can't see why anyone is surprised at this mass murder.
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/v...psvss3cu16.jpg
The person who did it was only doing what his holy book instructs him to do.”
“I can't see why anyone is surprised at this mass murder.
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/v...psvss3cu16.jpg
The person who did it was only doing what his holy book instructs him to do.”
The only surprising thing is you can post a list of verses from a hate site without having any idea which ones are genuine, which ones are made up and which ones are heavily out of context. Take the first for example. It is very different when you actually put it in context
https://i.imgur.com/kqaQpM4.png
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Their profile's public so it's perfectly acceptable to comment on it and it's a seemingly common attitude with the older generation - Round all immigrants up and put "them" somewhere else.
It seems some are emboldened by Brexit to publicly air these xenophobic views as if we should all go along with it without comment. What this kind of attitude has to do with one, as yet unexplained, maniac is hard to fathom. Using this appalling incident as an excuse to say "Round 'em up and deport 'em all" is frankly, disgraceful.
Who else in history was a big fan of mass deportation and exclusion?”
“Their profile's public so it's perfectly acceptable to comment on it and it's a seemingly common attitude with the older generation - Round all immigrants up and put "them" somewhere else.
It seems some are emboldened by Brexit to publicly air these xenophobic views as if we should all go along with it without comment. What this kind of attitude has to do with one, as yet unexplained, maniac is hard to fathom. Using this appalling incident as an excuse to say "Round 'em up and deport 'em all" is frankly, disgraceful.
Who else in history was a big fan of mass deportation and exclusion?”
Christ, get a grip. Another 12 innocent lives lost thanks to an Islamic maniac (one of thousands, millions, perhaps - no one knows) and all you can do is come out with self-indulgent whining crap like this?!
People like you have caused this problem. Look at what's happened in the world this year. Yet you Still. Don't. Learn.
Originally Posted by Straker:
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Smilies appropriate for this thread are they?”
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Smilies appropriate for this thread are they?”
have you the list of appropriate responses to off topic comments as well? i don`t want to fall foul of that any more than i do the wrong opinion for your age category.
Originally Posted by davor:
“What an awful night last night. The guy was a migrant but he wasn't even from Syria. I don;t know why migrants from Afghanistan, Pakistan and other countries that aren't at war are being allowed to stay that long. They should've been repatriated earlier.”
“What an awful night last night. The guy was a migrant but he wasn't even from Syria. I don;t know why migrants from Afghanistan, Pakistan and other countries that aren't at war are being allowed to stay that long. They should've been repatriated earlier.”
When you let in a million people a year. It's hard to carry out stringent checks on everyone.
And even if 0.5% of those are isis supporters. That's 5000 nutters roaming around Europe.
I'm listening to the radio now and there is someone saying that the danger is the far right will hijack this for their own cause. I think it's the left that are the real danger.
Originally Posted by psy7ch:
“The only surprising thing is you can post a list of verses from a hate site without having any idea which ones are genuine, which ones are made up and which ones are heavily out of context. Take the first for example. It is very different when you actually put it in context
https://i.imgur.com/kqaQpM4.png”
“The only surprising thing is you can post a list of verses from a hate site without having any idea which ones are genuine, which ones are made up and which ones are heavily out of context. Take the first for example. It is very different when you actually put it in context
https://i.imgur.com/kqaQpM4.png”
Fair enough, but try explaining that to the victims families of this mass murder.
Originally Posted by mal2pool:
“so lets just do nothing then”
“so lets just do nothing then”
Target terrorists. Act on specific intelligence. Go after the individuals or cells responsible for crimes.
Deporting groups/ethnicities/religious movements en masse because of the actions of solitary nutters is totally unacceptable in all civilised societies.
Originally Posted by Kevin Smear:
“Christ, get a grip. Another 12 innocent lives lost thanks to an Islamic maniac (one of thousands, millions, perhaps - no one knows) and all you can do is come out with self-indulgent whining crap like this?!
People like you have caused this problem. Look at what's happened in the world this year. Yet you Still. Don't. Learn.”
“Christ, get a grip. Another 12 innocent lives lost thanks to an Islamic maniac (one of thousands, millions, perhaps - no one knows) and all you can do is come out with self-indulgent whining crap like this?!
People like you have caused this problem. Look at what's happened in the world this year. Yet you Still. Don't. Learn.”
Thankyou for illustrating my point perfectly.
Originally Posted by annette kurten:
“have you the list of appropriate responses to off topic comments as well? i don`t want to fall foul of that any more than i do the wrong opinion for your age category.”
“have you the list of appropriate responses to off topic comments as well? i don`t want to fall foul of that any more than i do the wrong opinion for your age category.”
Grinning smilies would seem somewhat inappropriate. Apparently you don't think so.
Be interesting to see how the German media and police handle this whole story going forwards, after their shameful attempted cover up off the Cologne sexual assaults at the start of this year. Lets hope they have learnt their lesson, as I don't think the German people are in any mood to have the wool pulled over their eyes.
Its interesting that the terrorist is apparently a Pakistani asylum seeker, rather than from Syria. We don't yet know if he has been granted asylum or if his claim is being processed. Pakistan is a very complicated country, but there would need to be a good reason why a Pakistani national would be granted asylum.
Its interesting that the terrorist is apparently a Pakistani asylum seeker, rather than from Syria. We don't yet know if he has been granted asylum or if his claim is being processed. Pakistan is a very complicated country, but there would need to be a good reason why a Pakistani national would be granted asylum.
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Grinning smilies would seem somewhat inappropriate. Apparently you don't think so.”
“Grinning smilies would seem somewhat inappropriate. Apparently you don't think so.”
apparently they`re only inappropriate when it`s you getting laughed at because you swept past at least one on the page a few times before you picked up sorchas. and they are distributed through the thread.
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“Fair enough, but try explaining that to the victims families of this mass murder.”
“Fair enough, but try explaining that to the victims families of this mass murder.”
Just a suggestion How about targeting those that do this rather than taking a scatter gun approach to muslims and Islam in general. IS want your type of reaction.
Originally Posted by psy7ch:
“The only surprising thing is you can post a list of verses from a hate site without having any idea which ones are genuine, which ones are made up and which ones are heavily out of context. Take the first for example. It is very different when you actually put it in context
https://i.imgur.com/kqaQpM4.png”
“The only surprising thing is you can post a list of verses from a hate site without having any idea which ones are genuine, which ones are made up and which ones are heavily out of context. Take the first for example. It is very different when you actually put it in context
https://i.imgur.com/kqaQpM4.png”
To be honest there is no point trying to make out the Koran doesn't contain lot of vile, hate filled stuff - it does. Of course the Old Testament is pretty nasty in places as well.
Religion dates from the dark ages, and may of its attitudes haven't gone through an enlightenment process.
Of course not all religious people expouse these viewpoints, many are very tolerant, decent people - however many are homophobic and misogynistic, and defend this because they believe their religion compels them to be.
Ultimately we need to be far better at challenging religions on their attitudes and getting them to move into the 21t century - rather than making excuses for them.
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Thankyou for illustrating my point perfectly.”
“Thankyou for illustrating my point perfectly.”
Which, of course, means nothing. But other than snotty, predictable, clichéd platitudes, you've offered nothing else to this thread so far, so it comes as little surprise.
Originally Posted by annette kurten:
“apparently they`re only inappropriate when it`s you getting laughed at because you swept past at least one on the page a few times before you picked up sorchas. and they are distributed through the thread.”
“apparently they`re only inappropriate when it`s you getting laughed at because you swept past at least one on the page a few times before you picked up sorchas. and they are distributed through the thread.”
Nothing to do with them being posted in response to your comment then?
Originally Posted by Kevin Smear:
“Which, of course, means nothing. But other than snotty, predictable, clichéd platitudes, you've offered nothing else to this thread so far, so it comes as little surprise.”
“Which, of course, means nothing. But other than snotty, predictable, clichéd platitudes, you've offered nothing else to this thread so far, so it comes as little surprise.”
You're new here. You should dial down the insults.
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Their profile's public so it's perfectly acceptable to comment on it and it's a seemingly common attitude with the older generation - Round all immigrants up and put "them" somewhere else.
It seems some are emboldened by Brexit to publicly air these xenophobic views as if we should all go along with it without comment. What this kind of attitude has to do with one, as yet unexplained, maniac is hard to fathom. Using this appalling incident as an excuse to say "Round 'em up and deport 'em all" is frankly, disgraceful.
Who else in history was a big fan of mass deportation and exclusion ?”
“Their profile's public so it's perfectly acceptable to comment on it and it's a seemingly common attitude with the older generation - Round all immigrants up and put "them" somewhere else.
It seems some are emboldened by Brexit to publicly air these xenophobic views as if we should all go along with it without comment. What this kind of attitude has to do with one, as yet unexplained, maniac is hard to fathom. Using this appalling incident as an excuse to say "Round 'em up and deport 'em all" is frankly, disgraceful.
Who else in history was a big fan of mass deportation and exclusion ?”
But it's not just one, as yet unexplained, maniac, is it ? It's the twisted mind-set of hundreds of thousands (possibly millions) who follow the extreme teachings of this particular brand of their religion.
Their leaders have actually called for this type of attack, so it's not a great stretch to assume that this evil deed was carried out by one of their fanatical supporters. I think it's irrelevant whether the culprit belonged to a terror cell or if he was just working alone, the cause and result were the same.
I don't call for mass deportation, but we should be screening new arrivals more thoroughly. Probably too late for Germany though.
Originally Posted by psy7ch:
“Just a suggestion How about targeting those that do this rather than taking a scatter gun approach to muslims and Islam in general. IS want your type of reaction.”
“Just a suggestion How about targeting those that do this rather than taking a scatter gun approach to muslims and Islam in general. IS want your type of reaction.”
But that'd be like asking someone to target the far right fascists who murder rather than blaming tories, brexiters and daily mail readers. It'd never catch on.
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