yes, i was referring to me when i said you were getting laughed at and then sorcha posted a smilie indicating that she may also be laughing at you.

i hope that`s cleared up your confusion.

I'm not confused. Thanks for your concern though.

it`s not getting any easier, now i need to know the post limit for attitude. or is it on the date?

Agreed, he should wait a good fifteen years or so before stooping to that level.

why did you ask for clarification then?

I don't know what 'dial down' means. It sounds suspiciously like an Americanism and/or management guff.

And as we're handing out festive tips, here's one for you:
Stop telling people how they should and shouldn't post, there's a good chap. You don't make the rules. Ok?

He didn't tar everyone with the same brush?

When did far right fascists mass murder a load of people on a regur bassis?

So as predicted this atrocity was the work of Islamists. Is anyone really surprised? Time for Merkel to reverse the damaging immigration policy.

And how many is it who perpetrate atrocities like this? I'm all in favour of those ones being imprisoned but strangely, not the rest who haven't done anything.


"Stretch" and "assume". It's good that we're not just going on guesswork then.


Very relevant I would've thought. There's no stopping the lone maniac whereas tracking the activities of cells is exactly what intelligence services should be doing.

He stated his religious book told him to do it and posted a distorted compilation of quotes from a hate site.

You have no idea who the victims are. Don't try to speak for them.

Yep, Jo Cox's murder was all because of Brexit and the views of 17 million voters. Where as numerous attacks all over Europe that kill hundreds in the name/cause of a particular religion - lets not jump to conclusions

The culprit seems to be a refugee rather than a migrant in this case.


I agree with you. There is an extremist section of Islam mainly adhering to the Wahhabiiist interpretation of the religion. It is sectarian and misanthropic in its outworkings.


True, these acts are misanthropic and are designed to sow division. However, if the security forces are to protect us then they have to profile potential terrorists and terrorist acts. In the 1970s/80s, the source of terrorist attacks in the UK would have been from Irish people, nowadays it is more likely to be people with an Islamic background. (yes, I know this act was in Germany, but why have we been saved from such atrocities since 2005?)


The Enlightenment was a wonderful process but it's not quite finished partcularly in relation to Islam.


2011 Norway - Anders Breivik
2016 Charleston - Dylan Roof

There have been far right massacres but they are less frequent.

And he didn't say every muslim follows or reads those quotes, did he!!!

Two loners not part of any united movement/religion or cause can in no way be compared to hundreds/thousands of acts or incidents in the cause of one religion.

The quotes are a mixture of distortions and falsity. I dont know how falsely saying that it was their religious book that told this murderer to do it isn't an attack on muslims who have The Koran as their central text.

The big danger here, which no one seems to have mentioned, is that incidents like this fuel support for the far right.
Altenative Germany, or whatever they are called, are already trying to make political capital out of this incident.

And that's the reason that Islamists use to carry out terror attacks, because they believe they are doing Allah's will. Not that all Muslims carry out terror attacks.

Which in turn is music to the ears of IS who want a war. Its how they recruit.

Rubbish.

I wish people would stop and think before making such generalised comments that are meaningless, unhelpful and may show simple ignorance and, instead, focus on individuals' opinions.

Have I earned the right to say the above??


The attack was appalling and horrific. Is life worth so little to the perpetrators and supporters of these acts?

RIP those killed first and foremost. Secondly, it's a copycat attack, typical of ISIS. Thirdly, lone cell or not, how many more excuses are we going to make when these things happen?

Unfortunately I believe for some people/posters/media commentators until the killings effect them, then they will continue to shout and belittle anyone who shows concerns about immigrants behaving this way, as racism.

What a pathetic mindset.

Its not what their religion teaches them to do though. Its a distortion by a Islamist cult. The way to defeat this isn't to create a false narrative that actually backs the Islamist reading of scripture. IS will ultimately wither and die when it doesn't get recruits to its cause. Muddying the waters between mainstream Islam and daesh wont help this.

Another awful attack.
My immediate thought was another Harry Clark/Glasgow bin lorry type accident. I suppose because that happened around the same time and I still find it hard to believe someone would drive a lorry into a crowd. That thought didn't last long.
Tragic.

The 1930's and '40's.