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Which in turn is music to the ears of IS who want a war. Its how they recruit.
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Their profile's public so it's perfectly acceptable to comment on it and it's a seemingly common attitude with the older generation - Round all immigrants up and put "them" somewhere else.
It seems some are emboldened by Brexit to publicly air these xenophobic views as if we should all go along with it without comment. What this kind of attitude has to do with one, as yet unexplained, maniac is hard to fathom. Using this appalling incident as an excuse to say "Round 'em up and deport 'em all" is frankly, disgraceful. Who else in history was a big fan of mass deportation and exclusion? Smilies appropriate for this thread are they? |
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Easy in this case, don't let them in!
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I've never heard of anyone (other than IS) making "excuses" for this kind of behaviour.
I think the problem only arises when all immigrants get tarred with the same brush. |
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yes, i was referring to me when i said you were getting laughed at and then sorcha posted a smilie indicating that she may also be laughing at you.
i hope that`s cleared up your confusion. ![]() However apparently I'm laughing at the victims of a terror attack. |
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#506 |
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Yes indeed. They expect Muslims in the West to use their position to kill non-believers.
The trouble is, the Muslim communities in Europe (and the USA) need to be closely monitored. They are inward-looking and all you need is extremist imams to brainwash enough people in their insular communities and the damage is done. Add to that some poverty and resentment and you have one or more mass murderers on your hands. Muslim communities in the West need to condemn and continue to condemn vigorously these attacks and denounce those who organise and carry them out They are all too strangely quiet |
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#507 |
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And yet they were 100% correct.
Scottish bin lorry accident - MUSLIMS!!!!, oh it's not the authorities are lying to us or just go silent. Bath lorry accident - MUSLIMS!!!!, of its not, it all goes quiet. Pilot crashes a passenger jet - MUSLIMS!!!!!! Why won't the authorities tell us the pilots name and relgion eh? Oh a white guy, all goes quiet. Shooting in Norway - MUSLIMS!!!!, oh it's not, lots of people never post on the subject again. |
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I laughed at the comment you made about age appropriateess required to make certain comments. I thought it was funny.
![]() However apparently I'm laughing at the victims of a terror attack. he`s just sore because he got his big ego ripped out, it`s clear to everyone else what you were laughing at, given you quoted it.
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London has the New Years parade and probably other cities do the same in a few weeks. Complete lock down?
And if you wanted to mow down a crowd in London there are plenty of places to do it any day of the year. |
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ignore it sorcha,
he`s just sore because he got ripped out, it`s clear to everyone else what you were laughing at given you quoted it.
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#511 |
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Muslim communities in the West need to condemn and continue to condemn vigorously these attacks and denounce those who organise and carry them out
They are all too strangely quiet You were stangely all too quiet... |
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How exactly do we stop the random actions of a handful of people?
Secondly, a handful of people? That's a rather disgusting statement to make - a handful of people destroyed the lives of hundreds of people in Paris last year. Before and after that event, there have been plenty more tragedies that has ruined communities. When you say it's only a handful of people, you are describing them as a thorn in the side and not the cancerous, evil collective they are. |
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The 1930's and '40's.
But that's perhaps where we should leave 1940s comparators. https://youtu.be/Ry3NzkAOo3s |
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When did far right fascists mass murder a load of people on a regur bassis?
2011 Norway Oslo bombings and Utøya shooting (76 killed more than 90 injured) 2011 Italy Florence shooting (2 killed, 3 injured) 2000-2006 Germany Bosphorus serial murders 2004 Germany Cologne bombing (22 injured) 1999 UK London bombings (3 killed more than 100 injured) 1988 Italy Bologna bombings (85 killed 180 injured) 1988 France bombings of Sonacotra hostels in Cagnes-sur-Mer and Cannes (1 killed 16 injured) USA 2015 Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting (3 killed) 2015 Charleston church shooting (9 killed) 2014 ambush attack on Las Vegas police officers (5 killed) 2014 Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting in Kansas (3 killed) 2014 Pennsylvania State Police barracks attack in Blooming Grove, Pennsylvania (1 killed), 2012 tri-state killing spree by white supremacists, David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby (4 killed) 2012 ambush of St. John the Baptist Parish, Louisiana police (2 killed) 2012 Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting (6 killed) 2011 FEAR group attacks (3 killed) 2010 Carlisle, Pennsylvania (1 killed) 2010 suicide attack by airplane in Austin, Texas (1 killed) 2009 shooting of Pittsburgh police officers (3 killed) 2009 United States Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting (1 killed) 2009 assassination of George Tiller (1 killed) 2009 murders of Raul and Brisenia Flores in Pima County, Arizona (2 killed) 2009 murders in Brockton, Massachusetts (2 killed) 2008 Knoxville Unitarian Universalist church shooting (2 killed) |
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Muslim communities in the West need to condemn and continue to condemn vigorously these attacks and denounce those who organise and carry them out
They are all too strangely quiet Muslims are not responsible for the actions of other muslims unless they encourage it, or support it. And religious community leaders don't represent them any more than the Archbishop of Westminister represents British Catholics or the Archbishop of Canterbury for those who go to church there. |
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First of all, don't let them in. That part is incredibly simple. Merkel should be tried for crimes against her own people for what she's done.
Secondly, a handful of people? That's a rather disgusting statement to make - a handful of people destroyed the lives of hundreds of people in Paris last year. Before and after that event, there have been plenty more tragedies that has ruined communities. When you say it's only a handful of people, you are describing them as a thorn in the side and not the cancerous, evil collective they are. |
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Strange. Cos my first thought was another Nice.....
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What are we doing continentally to stop terrorist attacks? Inviting the entire third-world in to set up shop? Allowing the liberal left to shout us down as racist whilst hoping we all die of old age?
Whatever we are doing, it simply isn't enough by half. |
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First of all, don't let them in. That part is incredibly simple. Merkel should be tried for crimes against her own people for what she's done.
Secondly, a handful of people? That's a rather disgusting statement to make - a handful of people destroyed the lives of hundreds of people in Paris last year. Before and after that event, there have been plenty more tragedies that has ruined communities. When you say it's only a handful of people, you are describing them as a thorn in the side and not the cancerous, evil collective they are. |
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It comes as no surprise to anyone that Farage is wetting his knickers at this as it gives him the opportunity to spew some of his twisted hateful bile.
He's already had a dig at Jo Cox'a windower - the vindictive piece of pondlife. The mind boggles, it really does. |
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The sad truth is nothing will be done , we will still hear the same old rubbish.
The damage is now on our doorstep and yet we still hear the same old excuses sprouted time and time again. |
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Two loners not part of any united movement/religion or cause can in no way be compared to hundreds/thousands of acts or incidents in the cause of one religion.
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Not letting them in isn't going to change the fact that millions of migrants are already here and that many attacks have been perpetrated (or planned and stopped) by people who have lived in Europe for years, or are even 2nd/3rd generation. Not letting them in is also difficult, because a determined terrorist could get to Europe so many different ways, both legitimate and not.
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Disgusting? It's a handful, no matter what spin you want to put on it. It takes incredibly few people to carry out an atrocity these days. That's what makes it difficult to stop, it's part of the plan.
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Europe
2011 Norway Oslo bombings and Utøya shooting (76 killed more than 90 injured) 2011 Italy Florence shooting (2 killed, 3 injured) 2000-2006 Germany Bosphorus serial murders 2004 Germany Cologne bombing (22 injured) 1999 UK London bombings (3 killed more than 100 injured) 1988 Italy Bologna bombings (85 killed 180 injured) 1988 France bombings of Sonacotra hostels in Cagnes-sur-Mer and Cannes (1 killed 16 injured) ) Wikipedia has a section which lists all the apparent terrorist attacks across the entire world each month. Here is the list of the 75 incidents so far in December 2016 - yes 75 in 20 days - and there are still 11 days to go. Do you notice what over 90 per cent of the incidents have in common - and it's pretty much the same every month. To say there is not an issue with radicalism is just ignoring the data. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._December_2016 |
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The sad truth is nothing will be done , we will still hear the same old rubbish.
The damage is now on our doorstep and yet we still hear the same old excuses sprouted time and time again. |
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