Agree with all of this, but especially the BiB.

This single action has significantly increased the threats to many European countries, not just Germany. Terrorists are never going to declare their intentions and to allow so many people access at once was going to prevent any form of detention until rigorous checks are completed.

What a mess

You are loving your terrorism top trumps.

Why was he hiding?

Anyhow he's a Muslim and said he didn't do it, that's good enough for the German authorities. Wait and see what the DNA says, I guess.

was he hiding? I must have missed that - I thought he was just followed/tracked by a bystander but maybe I've read different articles.

Something fishy going on here.

The suspect is followed by a witness from the scene until he is arrested.
The German Police say it is not him because he has no blood on his clothes (?) and denies he is involved.

Something doesn't seem right.

Unless the 'witness' was working with the driver to deliberately lead police on a false trail, leaving the real suspect free to unleash more terror.

You must be well placed to have heard them, none of the rest of us have
The Pakistani community and the Country have been particularly quiet but then they harboured Osama Bun Laden. They have hated us since the days of Jinnah and Partition

Thank you for making a constructive contribution to this thread where unfortunately as usual it was in danger of ending in the same way as the Paris and Nice threads did with conjecture and speculation and in some instances rather unsavoury comments.

I was unaware of who and when badges of distinction were introduced although I do know that it was used in England in the early 13th century. Even then I only discovered this because I was studying the period of the late 13th and early 14th centuries of Edward the 1st reign where it was Edward who designated the colour and size.

Looking into this further I discovered that different colours were first introduced by Omar 11 in 717 to distinguish religious faiths not belonging to the majority. It was not universally observed but radically imposed over a century later and remained for centuries. Jews were compelled to wear yellow belts and hats.

as i said, that`s because the media ignore it.

i`m in or following a few groups on there and they are busy.

the armed forces muslim association is also on a recruitment drive.

One of the reports from the eyewitness who never took his eyes off the guy from the moment he left the cab to when a patrol car arrested him hiding.

Cringe!

I'm not the only one whose started to notice the politically correct reporting of these frequent atrocities.

Why is it that every time there's a terrorist attack people say this?
Muslims do condemn terrorism and every attack.
You obviously not bothering to read their repeated condemnation doesn't change anything.

In general
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourc...demn+terrorism

UK
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourc...demn+terrorism


OP, as it now looks like they've arrested the wrong man there's a, probably armed, barbaric ******* free to do whatever he chooses next.

I think the media have either conciously or sub-conciously homogenised muslims in the minds of some people who are now unable or unwilling to seperate terrorism and the association with the word muslim........its unfortunate and I'm afraid falls into the category of being racist.

Law abiding muslims have no more to do with terrorism than you,me or anybody else and the requirement by some for them to 'speak out' against acts of terrorism is ridiculous and offensive.....muslims have got nothing to prove in the current situation and to suggest that they have is racist.

This is the problem with the police trying to tell the media what is going on at the time, and why we dont tend to do that.

Just because someone denies something doesn't prove anything, and that information should not be released.

The police shouldn't be saying whether they have the right person or not. They should investigate, and let a court decide, and the results of their enquiries should remain out of the public domain until court.

Most of them, when asked to comment on atrocities like this, start talking about western foreign policy. It's not a wholehearted condemnation. It's a sort of 'yeah but'.

Well put it this way , if atrocities and killings were happening in the name of Catholicism I would feel the need to scream out my horror and shout out
" not in my name "

They are still investigating, that's all.

they do and they are.

regarding catholicism, are you old enough to remember the ira in the 70`s?

it was the same then for irish people, in essence at least, as it is now with muslim people.

That just goes to show how dangerous these Muslims can be.

Going around maliciously not fullfilling the hysterical DS right wing stereotype.

Gits.

I certainly do . And I remember well my dad shouting out " not in my name , not in my name "
And I will still say it loudly " the IRA did not act in my name , they were not acting on my behalf "

I think you are missing a key component of Islamic Terrorism. Support structures. Without those, there will be little to no Islamic Terrorism. Support structures vary from anti-western mosques, encouraged religious isolationism - to anti-western muslim families and communities - to actual terrorist cells within communities and mosques. This general laissez-faire attitude in many muslim communities shields and enables the growth of extremists. The support networks to Islamic terrorism includes millions of muslims and indeed non-muslims (people who seek to deflect away from the issues to protect a moral compass that may already be broken). Of course we must stress that millions upon millions of muslims behave responsibility - but we must also acknowledge - the problem is far more serious than just a 'few' rotten apples.

The areas in London where crowds will be congregating for the NYE celebrations are already heavily locked down. Some bridges across the Thames are closed (Lambeth up to Waterloo), initially for vehicles, then later in the evening for pedestrians. The ticket holders are hemmed into fenced off enclosures with massive security checks taking place, so the prospect of a Nice/Berlin style vehicle-based attack is non-existent.

Smuggling a bomb in would be very difficult but not impossible though.

and huge numbers of muslims are doing the same, you`re just not seeing it.

[because the media only give it occasional lip service].

I like the idea of the investigation, what I dislike is the political nature of the German police. Personally I would prefer if they keep most the investigation classified at this stage. Giving out statements hourly that the suspect denies involvement and that they may have the wrong man seems a little unprofessional.

How is keeping people informed 'political'?

Muslims are not a race. There are Asian, middle eastern, black and white and mixed race Muslims. It's not racist to criticise an ideology. Is it racist to criticise Scientology? What's the difference? Anyway muslims should speak up against the terrorists. As someone else said a lot of muslims blame us when it comes to terror attacks. They blame us for voting, our government's foreign policy etc.