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A truck has ploughed into a Christmas market in Berlin.
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Dotheboyshall
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by alan29:
“Got to say I might not hang around if I was brown and innocent, given the public sentiment.”

If someone had committed a terrorist act I wouldn't hang around regardless of colour just in case the attack was just part 1
Mark39London
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by davor:
“It has been all over the German media.”

Yes, but have the police confirmed it yet?

Last I read they were uncertain.
davor
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark39London:
“Yes, but have the police confirmed it yet?

Last I read they were uncertain.”


What, you are waiting for the police to say: "Look, guys, really sorry, but we got the wrong guy, the real terrorist is still at large, stay at home and don't go anywhere."?
Eurostar
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“No, it means they don't know what he is if he is not in custody and they don't have an identity,”

For sure, but if the guy they have in custody is not the attacker, it means the real culprit could be anyone, including a homegrown terrorist.
TrollHunter
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by 5hane:
“As usual TV news is continuing to repeat what happened, spreading further unnecessary fear, just as the terrorists would of hoped. Then you get the glory hunters uploading the footage to the web, further to the delight of terrorists.

People sure do like to shoot themselves in the feet. Stop giving terrorists a platform and stop feeding peoples lust for drama.”

The alternative is to report nothing which leads to rumours of cover-ups and conspiracies. Can't win either way.
Mark39London
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by davor:
“What, you are waiting for the police to say: "Look, guys, really sorry, but we got the wrong guy, the real terrorist is still at large, stay at home and don't go anywhere."?”

Yes, a link to a factual (not speculative or guesswork) source would be helpful.

As opposed to people guessing on a forum.
annette kurten
20-12-2016
all those who wanted links to not in my name muslims to completely ignore can come back now, it`s on the last page.
BasilRathbon
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Palafrugel:
“Something fishy going on here.

The suspect is followed by a witness from the scene until he is arrested.
The German Police say it is not him because he has no blood on his clothes (?) and denies he is involved.

Something doesn't seem right.”

I wondered how long it would be before the David Icke Crackpot Conspiracy Theory mob turned up.
Deep Purple
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by davor:
“They have arrested the wrong man. Just when you think the police forces in Europe are well trained and equipped, this happens. They can't even arrest the right person. Now he will keep a low profile until he is ready to strike again.”

Just because someone says it isn't him, doesn't mean they didn't do it.

If a witness claims to have followed someone from the scene, and points him out to the police what do you expect them to do?
anne_666
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark39London:
“Yes, a link to a factual (not speculative or guesswork) source would be helpful.

As opposed to people guessing on a forum.”

It's looking increasingly likely

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/be...-a7486561.html
anne_666
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by annette kurten:
“all those who wanted links to not in my name muslims to completely ignore can come back now, it`s on the last page.”

It's always the same annette, don't expect any acknowledgement.
Mark_Jones9
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Islam is by its nature an expansionist religion that seeks converts. That makes it subtly different from say Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism and Sikhism etc.

It was spread throughout much of the world originally by the sword”

Judaism historically was proselytizing including engaging in conversion by coercion of people living in conquered territory, convert or leave or die.

Hinduism is historically a proselytizing religion and is currently proselytizing for example the Hare Krishna movement. It also currently converts through coercion Christians and Muslims in parts of India through the use of violence including killings.

Buddhism is historically a proselytizing religion using monks and missionaries and currently people are converting in the West. It also currently converts through coercion Christians and Muslims in Burma through the use of violence including killings.

Sikhism forbids proselytizing. There are however Sikh terrorist organizations attempting to make Sikh states, they kill non-believers.
Horza's Drone
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by annette kurten:
“muslims againt isis


there are loads of f/b groups and pages.

More than 30,000 Muslims from across the world meet in the UK to reject Isis and Islamic extremism

Media Blackout As Millions Of Muslims March Against ISIS In Iraq

media blackout as london muslims march againt isis.

one of those is about 20 million muslims marching against isis in iraq.

these media blackouts don`t help the perception .

and so on.”

Unfortunately most Muslims around the world hold views on adultery, blasphemy, homosexuality and apostasy which normal people in the West would find totally abhorrent.
duckylucky
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by annette kurten:
“i know, people only ask for the links because they think you can`t provide them, but i read a lot more than i type on the internet.”

I read the links with interest thanks
annette kurten
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Horza's Drone:
“Unfortunately most Muslims around the world hold views on adultery, blasphemy, homosexuality and apostasy which normal people in the West would find totally abhorrent.”

people asked for link on muslims protesting about isis, those are links about muslims protesting about isis.
annette kurten
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“I read the links with interest thanks”

my pleasure.
Union Jock
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by annette kurten:
“i remember it, it was in the same week of an alleged [i can`t remember if it was confirmed] terrorist attack in france where someone in a car mowed down people.

i don`t know what you mean by the bib.”

Trucks weren't being used as a weapon of choice then so why would someone get the idea that the bin lorry was being used for that purpose.

Proof of the claim would help though.
samantha_vine
20-12-2016
Muslims protesting against ISIS won't do anything

You honestly think that will make ISIS stop? Also even if they are protests...the media won't even pick it up.
Mark39London
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“It's looking increasingly likely

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/be...-a7486561.html”

Thanks for that

Bad news if he is still on the run, and sad for the Polish 'original' driver, who seems to have been shot and stabbed prior to the attack equally worrying is that no gun has yet been found.
MikeJW
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by BasilRathbon:
“I wondered how long it would be before the David Icke Crackpot Conspiracy Theory mob turned up. ”

I'd just like to say: crisis actor, Mossad, video clearly a fake, CIA, shooting acoustics don't match the reaction, perp wearing the wrong shirt for Turkish police, false flag, KGB, Obama, Putin. Oh, and buy my latest book now.
Mark_Jones9
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“The English word slave is derived from Slav a reflecting the slavery of many Eastern Europeans by the Ottoman Empire.”

The Ottoman empire is not the source of the English word slave.
The Ottoman empire was founded at the end of the 13th century and conquered the Byzantine empire in 1453.

The Slav people mitigated into the Balklands from the 6th century, the Greek Byzantine empire engaged in many wars with the Slavs. The Byzantines borrowed and adapted the Slavs' own name as sklavos (σκλάβος). It became the Greek name for the Slavs, and due to large numbers taken captive an alternative word for "slave" doulos (δούλος). The word was adopted in to Latin in the 10th century. Medieval Latin modified it to sclavus and used it in the two senses that developed in Byzantium, "Slav" and "slave." In turn, became the source of the Modern English word slave.
el_bardos
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I'm sure you understand what this is about. Muslims = KKK, Nazis and Stalinists? Really?
You do know that the vast majority of Muslims are under the same threat and have suffered far more extensively at the hands of extremist terrorists? How do you explain that away?”

ISIS have killed more Muslims than westerners, that's for sure.

And of course, rather a lot of Syrian troops are currently fighting them, which I'd say is a fairly clear opposition to their ideology.

The KKK false equivalence is a particularly amusing one since their leader Thomas Robb is a church pastor - by this logic, that makes all Christians KKK supporters by default.
anne_666
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark39London:
“Thanks for that

Bad news if he is still on the run, and sad for the Polish 'original' driver, who seems to have been shot and stabbed prior to the attack equally worrying is that no gun has yet been found.”

He's probably still got the gun. What reason would there be to get rid of it.
Mark39London
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“He's probably still got the gun. What reason would there be to get rid of it.”

None at all, especially if he wants to strike again.
TerraCanis
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Palafrugel:
“Something fishy going on here.

The suspect is followed by a witness from the scene until he is arrested.
The German Police say it is not him because he has no blood on his clothes (?) and denies he is involved.

Something doesn't seem right.”

Originally Posted by BasilRathbon:
“I wondered how long it would be before the David Icke Crackpot Conspiracy Theory mob turned up. ”

I didn't think that was so much a conspiracy theory as a suggestion that someone saw someone else leaving the scene and jumped to conclusions. That might indeed be the case - or it might be that what the witness thought he saw was indeed what he really did see. Who (on this thread) really knows for sure?
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