Camps ? yeah, they are a bit regressive and 20th century, how about walled enclaves within each city where they can go about their business, worship and all that swaddling, but under the watchful eyes of the security police.

I think that's a definite goer.
I'll call Angela, she's on my quick dial.

You don't think the force of an explosion which dislodges their head might dislodge some paper out of their pocket? Or as they run about shooting people or beheading them it might fall out? The other option which has been brought up time and again is the fact they leave it there deliberately (like at CHarlie Hebdo) to a) claim responsibility (it being an honour and a glorious death in their culture and i've read the families of martyrs get special payments) and b) make sure it's known they went through with it to claim the glory, more lovely publicity for their cause.

What's that got to do with Russia's vested interest in Syria?

Then posts have been purged by the mods as I personally quoted two of those "deport them all into camps" type posts. Someone else made mention of such posting so you'll have to accept that as partial corroboration in lieu of the actual thing.

and me - same.

Also I've followed the thread since it started, and never noticed any such posts in the first few pages. So if they were removed as suggested by Straker, then it was bloody quick.

I can only assume it was the now inactive poster who made these posts.

I only saw the one later on in the thread which was to remove them and it was deleted along with member being made inactive, either way it was wrong of you to imply that it was the general feeling here.

You should apologise for that.

Archive image of suspect released. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38392128

" It has emerged that he was reported to counter-terrorism police last month and had been facing deportation since June. "

Six months of roaming around Why aren't there strategies in place for deportation ie send them back there and then and let their Mother country deal with the paperwork.

"Tunisia, Mr Jaeger said, had denied Anis A was its citizen, so the authorities had had to wait for temporary passport documentation from Tunisia.

"The papers arrived today from Tunisia," Mr Jaeger added. "

Bib really? Well why are you trying to tell people what the rules are then

Thread has been purged with posts deleted and some/one suspended/banned.

Using this appalling event to call for entire groups of people to be rounded up and forced into camps is despicable. I'm not about to apologise for pointing that out.


It seems some are forgetful.

Why the hell is anyone like this who's facing deportation not locked up?
He was in Italy from 2012 until 2015 when he arrived in Germany and only then claimed asylum?
Another damned EU/German incompetence tragedy.

I would have thought that...

"At various times he is said to have tried to pass himself off as an Egyptian or a Lebanese, using the names Ahmad Z or Mohammed H (under a German convention, suspects are identified by their first name and initial).

He is said to have been briefly detained in August with fake Italian identity documents."

would have been enough to boot his a*se out there and then. It makes me so angry to read stuff like this. People are getting blown to bits, mowed down whilst sh!te like this are free to roam wherever.

Apparently arrested three times already this year, but being a "refugee" from Tunisia clearly is a handy ticket to eventually pulping a load of innocent people with the lorry whose driver you murdered.
It's the recurring abject failure to deal with situations like this that is making people so angry, particularly on the European mainland where enforced social protocols keep turning up killers who were "known to the authorities" but whose rights trump those of innocent people.
The identity photo with the eyes blacked out to protect his "privacy" is indicative of how deep this nonsense goes.

here you go - nothing been deleted , all here, sequence at the link :
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...=#post84926121

original poster , post 409 onwards

your replies #416 and previous one:

The search function's really quick these days so easier to clear up any "confusion."

Hmmm. Six different aliases, three different "nationalities". Clearly the "trauma" suffered in Tunisia was so great that he was unable to even remember basic facts about himself.

Why did they even consider the asylum claim of a compulsive liar? Why should anyone believe a word he says about his experiences in Tunisia? Why was this guy not on the first plane back to Tunis? What possible defence could he give that needs to be considered? "OK I've lied about my identity, nationality and age, but you must believe my sob story. Honestly guv'nor"

If the Tunisian man is the perpetrator and the history is accurate I reckon that this is far worse for the German authorities and politicians than had it been the Pakistani suspect.

however here's a report on their November actions to try and get the group under control. No idea if the kingpin Al W is still in custody but he was arrested in Nov too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/wo...gees.html?_r=0

Just saw some stupid old woman quoted on the BBC 6 o'clock news saying that nobody could have predicted attacks like this when "humanitarian" Angela Merkel opened the floodgates.

What planet do these people live on? Seriously?

How sheltered and out of touch are these fools?

The way we handle refugees needs to be reworked. The world is a different place to the one when the refugee convention was created. You can't have people moving around freely not even needing to provide a valid form of ID. This guy was able to enter Germany and stay there under false pretences purely by claiming to be a refugee.

Because they're obliged to by laws that are no longer fit for purpose or practical and are regularly abused and exploited to the detriment of countries' ability to address genuine asylum seekers, let alone protect their borders and their populations.

The Lee Rigby murder was terrorist related and so on. Why have you said only the Jo Cox killing was "terrorist related"? The bombings on 7/7 were absolutely terror related.

why have none of the victims been named

Indeed, it's total insanity. They openly admit that he was considered a serious risk, had been arrested three times, and was feared to be planning a terror attack. But he's allowed to walk free !
The lunatics have definitely taken over the asylum in Germany. Time for the people to wake up, but I fear it may be too late already.

Deporting anyone takes time. Any country has to give their permission to be able to send someone back and they also need a passport for that country. Tunisia refused at first and Germany thought it was a great idea not to imprison someone they knew to be dangerous until he could be deported.

The latest is that he was actually jailed in Italy for burning down a school, having left Tunisia seven years ago... but somehow still got German papers as a "refugee". In April it was agreed he should be deported by the end of the year (why so long!) but instead was given special permission to stay while German authorities worked on obtaining a Tunisian passport for him.
Ah bureaucracy and paperwork... so much more important than decent citizens' safety.

An Israeli woman is amongst the dead and her husband was badly injured
Mossad will now be on the case

Just been reading about that, served 4 years in Italy. It all beggar's belief.