And if Schengen was abolished and the borders were reinstated. Then this guy could have been stopped in 2015 when he left Italy. Or is that it Schengen is here to stay and will never be repealed? And people wonder why the Far Right is gaining ground in Europe!

That is fine I have no problems with that. I just have a problem with people being happy a suspect was shot without even knowing the details. I would rather wait and be sure the right people died.

Precisely, whereas I'm pretty sure the UK authorities would.

I've never asked, but I'd be very surprised if I wasn't. I work for an organisation that prides itself on challenging prejudice and valuing diversity.

Marco Minniti, the Italian Interior Minister, has already confirmed there is absolutely no doubt it was Amri.

Don't forget they know all about him in Italy. He was in prison there. They will already have his fingerprints and DNA on file. An immediate check would have been on tap.

It's definitely him.

You have a view that Muslims are defined purely by their faith, therefore if one commits murder it must mean alluslims commit murder. What is the link between burka wearing and being an Islamist terrorist?

Call me old-fashioned, but generally I prefer law enforcement to be done by the arrest-trial-sentence method. However, in this case I accept that it's a reasonable outcome.

I'm not "happy" that a man who at very least tried to murder a policeman in the line of duty had been killed, nor am I sad. If anything I'm relieved that no one else was hurt when he chose to let the bullets fly.

He had the option to surrender, he chose not to. The officer had to neutralise the threat. The suspect made a decision which cost him his life. His fault and his fault alone.

118 on board they are saying Anne.
l hope this ends with a happy ending. ..

How often do these "gay" muslims go to a mosque? Or are they muslim in the same way that I'm a "Christian"...

If you've no problem with that, you can forget anything else he may have done. That will be established later.

He was shot because he attempted to murder the police in Italy. They acted properly, and he got what he deserved.

At least 2 of them of go to the mosque regularly. One of them quips that if they don't want gays in the mosque, they shouldn't have built it in Dyke Road.

From what we've heard so far, it doesn't sound like this guy was part of some sophisticated ISIS operation, does it? I mean, he was forced to travel by train - risky whichever way you look at it: what if the ticket inspector or one of the passengers had recognised him? Perhaps we should be very thankful he wasn't identified while on the train! - and then was found wandering the streets in Milan two hours after arriving. No reports so far that he'd gotten hold of fake ID for travelling, doesn't seem to have had anywhere to stay in Milan. Seems as if he made the attempt to flee entirely off his own back.

I was born in 1948 and lived through a lot of it. Caribbean, Irish, Jewish etc etc.etc. They were all scary bogey men. The attitude is probably a lot to do with being an insular island race with delusions of superiority born out of rabid Colonialism.
The whinging about Muslims goes way back before my time with the poisonous Daily Mail at the helm condemning every kind of immigrant in their insular divisive quest.
Along with any contribution made to society always conveniently ignored.
The migrant crisis and Europe haplessly allowing all migrants, especially Muslims en masse, to enter and stay to feed Germany's needs was always guaranteed to cause chaos. It didn't begin with mad Merkel's invitation either.


So do I louisa. They have hand grenades and are threatening to blow up the plane. I hope we're not entering another era of hijackings!

Do they use the ladies entrance? That'll be the back passage.

So who was he then? What were his motives to allegedly drive a heavy lorry into a crowd? Why do I get the feeling that the "he was mentally ill" line is being approached here

ISIS actively encouraged these kind of attacks.

I have no idea why you get that feeling from what I posted, it's odd.

Why do you think not being part of a sophisticated ISIS operation means he must've been mentally ill?

Well of course.

What does that have to do with anything?

Very amateurish and looks staged .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCPepG87mA

So you accept that he wasn't mentally ill?

What do you believe his motives were then?

That it's linked with ISIS completely.

I think I have worded my post badly..

"That is fine I have no problems with that. I just have a problem with people being happy a suspect was shot without even knowing the details. I would rather wait and be sure the right people died."



I meant I prefer to wait until all the info is in, before I say good result. Does that make more sense? When someone posted "the suspect has now been shot dead" a couple of people said "good" without even knowing the details..

What a ridiculous thing to say - and deliberately intended to provoke venomous comments towards anyone who isn't to the right of Genghis Khan.

I fall into the category of "peacenik" and hail the quick actions of the Italian police in that they have probably prevented other deaths from this evil terrorist. Nobody is going to call for the officer to be disciplined or punished. I would have preferred him to have lived to face justice and enable the security services to garner intelligence from him.


Exactly!

So do tell us how with your no doubt expert eye you have decided this is very amateurish and looks staged.