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Old 19-12-2016, 20:49
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Anyone can read out unsubstantiated rumours from Twitter. It's the job of the BBC to get the facts. Sometimes that takes a little extra time.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:50
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how often do they update? [bbc]
About once a year.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:50
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Police are saying it WAS a deliberate attack.

Should it not be reported by any news channel, from your viewpoint?
Didn't they say they suspected that it was deliberate? Of course, they can't possibly know until they find out, which basically means asking the driver.

Of course the news should be reported. I never suggested otherwise. What I said is that most news outlets have a vested interest in jumping to conclusions. That is a fact, isn't it?

What I also suggested is that we ought to wait before making assumptions, but apparently that's a ludicrous suggestion.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:50
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Yes, you can get it fast or you can get it right.
The two aren't mutually exclusive, as much as the BBC might like you to think they are.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:51
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What? Man on Sky banging on that if the Authorities knew that it was likely that there was to be an attack on Christmas Markets, then all Christmas Markets should be shut! By that logic, if a group of terrorists suggest that there will be on attack on, say, a football match or on a railway station, then all stadiums or stations are closed until the supposed threat is over.
Isn't that exactly what these murderers want? Jeez, they'll be cancelling all Christian celebrations to keep them happy.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:51
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What? Man on Sky banging on that if the Authorities knew that it was likely that there was to be an attack on Christmas Markets, then all Christmas Markets should be shut! By that logic, if a group of terrorists suggest that there will be on attack on, say, a football match or on a railway station, then all stadiums or stations are closed until the supposed threat is over.
I rolled my eyes at his captain hindsight ranting as well. May as well ban shopping and being out in public altogether with his logic!
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:52
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There are no words that would even come close to describe what a truly awful and heartbreaking situation this is. Innocent people going about their day, at the time of year that makes people happy and full of festive cheer.

For whatever reason behind the lorry incident, those innocent souls have lost their lives, and many have injuries. My thoughts are with that have died, for those that are injured, and for the loved ones of all of those involved.

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Old 19-12-2016, 20:52
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bbc says police say suspected attack?

how often do they update? [bbc]
The BBC believe in caution and wait for independent verification of information before broadcasting unlike some other news channels. That may appear ponderous but it does mean that any information given is correct rather than speculative
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:52
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When I read that article I was quite worried as my cousin and family are over in Germany until early Wednesday morning until they return to UK as they are all visiting a Christmas German market and you know what I actually thought. But I did manage to contact him and the market he's visiting is in Düsseldorf. I was absolutely relieved as I feared the worst.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:52
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Could it be the religion of peace, again? Surely not.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:53
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Truck had Polish number plates.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:53
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Joe always seem to have a different viewpoint to the majority on any thread one can only wonder why
Forgive my bluntness, but that is patently bullshit. It's also against forum T&Cs to attack other FMs so I suggest you wind your neck in.

The police SUSPECT it was deliberate ≠ the police have CONFIRMED it was a terrorist attack.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:53
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Didn't they say they suspected that it was deliberate? Of course, they can't possibly know until they find out, which basically means asking the driver.

Of course the news should be reported. I never suggested otherwise. What I said is that most news outlets have a vested interest in jumping to conclusions. That is a fact, isn't it?

What I also suggested is that we ought to wait before making assumptions, but apparently that's a ludicrous suggestion.
One or two aspects are puzzling, especially the driver being reportedly arrested. Normally these terrorists launch an attack with the clear intention of dying in the incident.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:55
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Truck had Polish number plates.
Means nothing. They could easily have hired a truck from anywhere in the EU.

Edit.....Polish owner of lorry says the lorry was stolen according to SKY
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:55
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Yes, you can get it fast or you can get it right.
Or you can get it out fast and right
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:56
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Well said.

I despair on here sometimes.

British witness said the truck ploughed into the middle of the market at high speed.

Accident my arse.
No kidding
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:57
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One or two aspects are puzzling, especially the driver being reportedly arrested. Normally these terrorists launch an attack with the clear intention of dying in the incident.
Depends on how a vehicle crashes surely. It appears that the passenger in the vehicle did die in the crash
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:57
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Terrible
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:57
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Truck had Polish number plates.
The owner of the company reckons the truck was hijacked and it wasn't his drivers involved in this.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:57
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There are no words that would even come close to describe what a truly awful and heartbreaking situation this is. Innocent people going about their day, at the time of year that makes people happy and full of festive cheer.

For whatever reason behind the lorry incident, those innocent souls have lost their lives, and many have injuries. My thoughts are with that have died, for those that are injured, and for the loved ones of all of those involved.

Nicely said. Me too.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:57
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One or two aspects are puzzling, especially the driver being reportedly arrested. Normally these terrorists launch an attack with the clear intention of dying in the incident.
One of these bits of scum, in the Paris attacks, seemed to change his mind about blowing himself up and fled the scene. (iirc)
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:58
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The BBC believe in caution and wait for independent verification of information before broadcasting unlike some other news channels. That may appear ponderous but it does mean that any information given is correct rather than speculative
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i prefer to get the pondered over the speculative, reading an ever changing stream is too messy.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:59
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religion of peace strikes again
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:59
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The owner of the truck company says he lost contact with the driver (his own cousin) at 4pm. Wonder if that's the dead person in the cab.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:59
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The owner of the company reckons the truck was hijacked and it wasn't his drivers involved in this.
I'm inclined to believe that.
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