Yes I have, but also I'm a hell of alot faster than a bumbling drunk person. Plus my dog is huge, drunk or not, you wouldn't mess with her.

So I lie to the police? I'd most likely end up in trouble myself by being "selective with the truth".

I'd rather try and get the person out of my house as quick as I can, no waiting around for the police. If anything, I'd call them after, but my priority would be to get them out of my home any which way I can. I'd also ensure I was prepared first, in case of trouble.
But one thing I am not going to do is treat them any different to an intruder.

Yes of course it's assault if you're applying your own daft vigilante notion of justice which is about your own ego and obviously has nothing to do with self defence. Good luck trying to explain a bucket of cold water as that! You also have no idea what health damage the shock could do to someone. Injure her health or kill her off and you'll be left to deal with worse consequences of your crime than assault.
I have zero sympathy for vigilantes who, the same as criminals, don't like the fact that the law and justice system applies to them. I prefer the police and the courts to be allowed to do their job.

If you have, then you should know better than to actively initiate a scenario where the likely outcome is for it to happen again. I write that as someone who was a doorman for 10 years. This alone is making think you're not being realistic, yet totally convinced you're right, making further discussion rather futile. Hopefully you never have to find out if your approach is the right one or not.

I find the idea that men should be wary of a woman making false allegations a bit odd. What do you do when you find yourself alone in a room with a woman; start filming her?

That's easy, wrap her in a carpet, then roll it down your stairs, making sure the front door is open, and she rolls out. If she wakes up, tell her she was dreaming, and that you found her there, when you opened your front door.

in my real world those people would be seriously odd and creepy.

If they started filming, definitely. Many years ago my brother told me that he avoided kissing his daughter in public because of what people might think. Poor sap. Thankfully, many years later, I could kiss my brother in public without him giving a damn what anyone else thinks.

I once bumped into him when I was with my landlord of the time, and we hugged and kissed. After he'd gone and I told my landlord it was my brother you should have seen the relief on his face! Yes, people do quietly judge. The trick is to not give a damn.

If a woman wakes up in a complete strangers house, with no recollection of the night before, she could easily get the wrong idea. Particularly if that stranger was a man. It would look very strange if you didn't call the police yourself, considering the circumstances, and then she later decided to report you.

What are the circumstances? If it's breaking and entering I'd call the police, but if she'd drunkenly wandered in through an unlocked door, my first instinct would be to wake her up and talk to her. I might even be willing to give her a few quid for a taxi home, depending on the circumstances. If she later decided to report me for something that never happened, she has no memory of and there is no evidence of I'm pretty sure I'll be okay. It isn't something that I think about, let alone fear.

even without the filming, in my circle, no one would NOT see if the person was ok before all else.

and they wouldn`t be doing it from the doorway with a long stick either because their first thought wouldn`t be an expectation of a false rape allegation, i doubt it would cross a mind to be honest.

this terror is no end of amusing to me and no one on here will ever make me feel like an anti social freak again.

Thankfully it'll never happen as I have two dogs, they wouldn't let some random stranger sleep on the sofa without barking to let me know about it, during the night it's their sofa to sleep on, they'd be very put out!
On a serious note, I'd ring the police and let them sort it. Why make life harder for yourself?

Book a steam clean.

Before I read this thread I don't actually know if my first thought would be to contact the police.

I'd probably be all ineffectual, "Hello? Um, hello? Are you OK?", but police would be brightest thing.

The husband knows..

Throwing water over someone who has broken into my home, and I'm called a vigilante, ha ha ha, that's classic!

I think the police would laugh in your face if you tried to get someone arrested for soaking them, especially if they're an intruder.
You'd be suggesting I make tea for burglars next time....

Excellent idea!!

However according to some posters here I'm supposed to befriend them and treat them with care and respect when they've broken into my house.

And still the truth, regardless of your lack of knowledge and over keenness to mete out your own risible idea of justice.

I thought pouring water on the unrousable was a universally accepted option. Have threatened my own kids with it if they didn't shift their carcass.

My Dad poured water on me to get me up a time or two. He thought he was terribly funny. I wasn't so amused and no wonder! Turns out I had been assaulted.


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Re this hypothetical scenario I just realised that I was absolutely not coming to this as a 'break in' like most on the thread. Being very familiar with drunken buck eejitery I figured there would be an amusing story involving cocktails, bunting, a disgruntled taxi driver and a lost shoe, we'd laugh about it and it would turn out that I knew her cousin. Or something. I think we drink too much round here.

what I want to know is

has she been eating my porridge??

Thank you!!! Thats what I thought, you throw water over someone who doesn't want to get up, its standard as far as I'm concerned!
But the PC brigade call it assault!

Rich pickings there for the human rights lawyers and compensation brigade

Forget the filming bit, if a woman lied, and said, "That guy stroked my rear in the lift", I'd think that a lot of people would believe her, on the basis of, why would she say it if it wasn't true.
If a man said, "That woman rubbed herself against my groin in the lift", a lot of guys would think, "Lucky s.o.b."



Even if you call the police, when they arrive, she could accuse you of all sorts, and you'd have the almost impossible task of proving that she's lying.


You're pretty sure you'd be okay? You're a more confident guy than me Gunga Din.
Presumably you've never been in that situation, neither have I, but it's dollars to doughnuts that if three months after the incident, the woman in question went to the police and said, "Remember when you came to 99 Blank Street, and removed me from Mr. Jones house?
"Just before he called you he put his hand inside my bra."
Your feet wouldn't touch the ground, you'd be in the nick in minutes, protesting, "It's not true, she made it up", while the cops would be saying, "Tell it to the judge."

I can fly. No honest, it's true.

I was staying in a Hotel, when a guy was found wandering around blind drunk, he was not a guest, so the staff were going to throw him out, I managed to persuade them he needed locking up by the police for his own protection .

1st BiB: The circumstances of a man hypothetically making such a false allegation is entirely irrelevant. What you're basically saying is that when a man talks sh*t nobody believes him therefore when a woman talks sh*t everyone believes her.

2nd BiB: The burden of proof isn't on the accused. If it didn't actually happen and there is zero evidence then she'd have a hard time proving that she's telling the truth. It's precisely for this reason why actual sex crimes often go unpunished; lack of evidence, which is considered a cornerstone of justice.

3rd BiB: I think you're letting your imagination run away with you. Either that or you are exaggerating for effect. It's much more likely that you'd be brought in for questioning and subsequently released without charge due to a lack of evidence, given that it never happened.

she's in my home uninvited, regardless of the reason or her state she'd be out on her fanny.