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Old 20-12-2016, 08:37
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Harry Connick Jr getting the audience to clap on the off-beat, by means of a plan so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UinR...ature=youtu.be
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Old 20-12-2016, 10:35
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That really is quite brilliant. The only trouble is it would throw the dancers by adding an extra beat. Clapping on the 1 & 3 by the audience really does drive me insane though.
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Old 20-12-2016, 10:39
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Harry Connick Jr getting the audience to clap on the off-beat, by means of a plan so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UinR...ature=youtu.be
I've linked that "rhythm displacement," video in different threads about the music at least a couple of times this year, when the clapping on the "wrong" beat has been mentioned and once last year.

But it isn't a practical suggestion because the change in time, would be a problem for the dancers.

The simplest solution is that if the BBC were concerned about the clapping, it would be easy enough to use a floor manager with some sense of rhythm to start the audience off on the correct beat. But they don't, so obviously the BBC doesn't care.
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Old 20-12-2016, 11:03
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Or better still, just stop the clapping altogether.
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Old 20-12-2016, 11:14
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Or better still, just stop the clapping altogether.
A lot of complaints about the clapping have been made on this forum.
Some like it some don't.
You won't stop the audience clapping, it isn't practical.
Maybe the BBC doesn't want to be seen as being either for or against it, so don't get involved.
Either way, it obviously isn't of any consequence to them, that people clap on the wrong beat, hasn't been for years..
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Old 20-12-2016, 11:40
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A lot of complaints about the clapping have been made on this forum.
Some like it some don't.
You won't stop the audience clapping, it isn't practical.
Maybe the BBC doesn't want to be seen as being either for or against it, so don't get involved.
Either way, it obviously isn't of any consequence to them, that people clap on the wrong beat, hasn't been for years..
I don't mind whether they clap on the first or third beat. What I don't like is that they don't clap together, so you get a noise that sounds like someone pushing over dominoes. Maybe they should be rehearsed.
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Old 20-12-2016, 13:19
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Have a designated Clapper. Someone who will lead clapping on the 2 and get the audience to follow. That's how we did it in panto recently. Rather than risk shoddy 1 & 3 clapping, performers lead the clap and the audience joined in.
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Old 20-12-2016, 13:37
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I've linked that "rhythm displacement," video in different threads about the music at least a couple of times this year, when the clapping on the "wrong" beat has been mentioned and once last year.

But it isn't a practical suggestion because the change in time, would be a problem for the dancers.
Hmmm. Pasha and Naga did their Tango to the Mission Impossible theme which is entirely in 10/8, and the displacement could always be put as part of an intro while the dancers were "faffin' about" (Copyright Goodman).
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Old 20-12-2016, 13:46
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Hmmm. Pasha and Naga did their Tango to the Mission Impossible theme which is entirely in 10/8, and the displacement could always be put as part of an intro while the dancers were "faffin' about" (Copyright Goodman).
It's possible, but as I said, the BBC obviously hasn't seen it as a problem for well over a decade. So nothing will change.
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Old 20-12-2016, 15:58
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Hmmm. Pasha and Naga did their Tango to the Mission Impossible theme which is entirely in 10/8, and the displacement could always be put as part of an intro while the dancers were "faffin' about" (Copyright Goodman).
I don't remember ,,,,, did the audience clap during that tango. (thought it was in 5/4 BTW.)
Just checked ..... no clapping, but they were got to cheer at some random point in the dance.
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:24
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Or better still, just stop the clapping altogether.
I'd rather they just stopped it completely. As for clapping on the offbeat. That would be incredibly offputting for the celebs.
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Old 21-12-2016, 00:09
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Or better still, just stop the clapping altogether.
Quite so. I cannot see the point of audience clapping along. They pay to see a band and then add their own musical accompaniment.

I want to hear the band.

And watch the dancers interpret the music of the band and not that of the clappers.
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Old 21-12-2016, 00:14
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Is that audience French, by any chance?

They are known around the world for clapping off beat.
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Old 23-12-2016, 15:26
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I've linked that "rhythm displacement," video in different threads about the music at least a couple of times this year, when the clapping on the "wrong" beat has been mentioned and once last year.

But it isn't a practical suggestion because the change in time, would be a problem for the dancers.

The simplest solution is that if the BBC were concerned about the clapping, it would be easy enough to use a floor manager with some sense of rhythm to start the audience off on the correct beat. But they don't, so obviously the BBC doesn't care.
No the dancers would not be put off - they just choreograph an extra beat on a hold or a twist et voilą, it's done.

But whoever decided audience clapping should be part of the show should jolly well go and conduct it - the clapping is so late, late late late it almost arrives on the 2 and the 4.
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Old 23-12-2016, 15:34
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No the dancers would not be put off - they just choreograph an extra beat on a hold or a twist et voilą, it's done.

But whoever decided audience clapping should be part of the show should jolly well go and conduct it - the clapping is so late, late late late it almost arrives on the 2 and the 4.
Sounds OK in principle. But not practical, if the audience start clapping on 2nd and 4th, what would you do then?
It'd be chaos to tell the dancers and the band to "wait and see what happens, before we make a decision."
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