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Farage brands Brendan Cox an extremist
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MidnightFalcon
21-12-2016
Cox attacked Farage first. Does the fact that his wife was murdered make him immune to response?

As for Ukip V "Hope not Hate", only one of those organisations has a history of using violent protest to shut down those with whom they disagree, the very definition of extremism.
Ennerjee
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thiswillbefun:
“I discovered at the weekend that he's now been on Question Time more than any other panelist, despite having lost all UK elections he's stood for, and his party only has one MP.

There is definitely a media element in place giving slimy Farage (and creepy Hopkins) a massive platform to spout their hate speech.”

Perhaps the BBC has decided that he's worthy of the airtime because of the following:

UKIP winning the EU Parliamentmentary elections in 2014;
UKIP receiving 4 million votes in the General Election in 2015;
UKIP being the only united party campaigning for a LEAVE vote.

Nigel Farage was also the Party's leader throughout that time.

He's also a brilliant debater (ask Nick Clegg) who pulls in viewers.

I can think of many guests on QT who aren't politicians, but "celebrities", who are allowed airtime to pontificate from their ivory towers while pretending to know everything about the world. Eddie Izzard immediately springs to mind as do Will Self and Jo Brand, none of whom have a parliamentary seat.
snowy ghost
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thiswillbefun:
“Do we really need to point out that this was the argument that supported the one balled Austrian.”

jjwales
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“Cox attacked Farage first. Does the fact that his wife was murdered make him immune to response?”

Did Brendan Cox actually "attack" Farage, or did he merely question what he was saying? In any case, the response from Farage was grossly disproportionate.
snowy ghost
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Aristaeus:
“I find it interesting that the same people who accuse Corbyn supporters of being in a cult are the same ones who are happily smearing the husband of a murdered MP because he disagrees with Farage.”

Not accurate
I call it the cult of Corbyn
But do not like what NF said about Mr Cox
snowy ghost
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Did Brendan Cox actually "attack" Farage, or did he merely question what he was saying? In any case, the response from Farage was grossly disproportionate.”

Agreed
MidnightFalcon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Did Brendan Cox actually "attack" Farage, or did he merely question what he was saying? In any case, the response from Farage was grossly disproportionate.”

The response to that would depend on the subjective position of the observer, What is clear is that there has been no shortage of unreasoning "hatred" towards Farage both in the reaction to this statement and his treatment by the chronically misnamed "hope not hate" over many years.
Staunchy
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Aristaeus:
“Save me your tears. I don't remember you giving a damn about all the lies about Corbyn. I haven't made any comment about what Farage said about Cox (you're right in that he didn't call him an extremist, but he did imply he hung out with them), I have made my views clear on the UKIP supporters on this thread smearing the husband of a murdered MP.”

Tears? You'll have to do better than that when someone makes a comment you disagree with.

Corbyn doesn't interest me either way, that's why I don't comment on him negatively or positively. Farage and the reactions to him, I find fascinating.

As neither a Corbyn or Farage supporter I feel I'm better placed to point out the similarities between the way they are treated and how their supporters act, don't you?
Dotheboyshall
21-12-2016
Nigel has decided to go down the trump route of flinging mud everywhere in the hope some sticks.
BanglaRoad
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Did Brendan Cox actually "attack" Farage, or did he merely question what he was saying? In any case, the response from Farage was grossly disproportionate.”

You know how it works.
Anything other than fawning adoration of Farage is treated as an "attack" on the glorious leader.
i4u
21-12-2016
Farage is constantly spoiling for a fight...he has been describe divisive from within his own party....he's trying to distance himself from the atmosphere he created that resulted in the murder of Jo Cox by a British white supremacist on a street in England.

Let's pretend that didn't happen and instead heap the blame on the husband by claiming he is 'extremist'.

I see a former colleague of Mr Farage doesn't exactly have kind words to say about him in this season of goodwill.
RunawayGroom
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Good God.

I'm out of here ...........it's impossible to argue with stupidity and bigotry.

Sorry but - disgust doesn't even come close - unbelievable.”

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
jjwales
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“The response to that would depend on the subjective position of the observer, What is clear is that there has been no shortage of unreasoning "hatred" towards Farage both in the reaction to this statement and his treatment by the chronically misnamed "hope not hate" over many years.”

Seems like you are trying to excuse the inexcusable. Has Brendan Cox (as that's who we are talking about here) ever expressed "unreasoning hatred" towards Farage?
MidnightFalcon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“You know how it works.
Anything other than fawning adoration of Farage is treated as an "attack" on the glorious leader.”

Since you are quoting a response to me I'll I assume that's aimed in my direction?.

I never have been and never will be a "kipper" but then I suppose it's easier to bang a negative label on people who don't subscribe to your script than to look at the flaws on your own "side". What were we saying about extremists?

Presumably this guys a "kipper" too?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...t-muslims.html
jjwales
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by scott789s:
“Brendan Cox was on board Bob Geldoff pleasure boat full of the sneering elite, sticking 2 fingers up at deep sea fisherman.”

I thought he was sticking two fingers up at Farage, not the fishermen?
CSJB
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by i4u:
“Farage is constantly spoiling for a fight...he has been describe divisive from within his own party....he's trying to distance himself from the atmosphere he created that resulted in the murder of Jo Cox by a British white supremacist on a street in England.

Let's pretend that didn't happen and instead heap the blame on the husband by claiming he is 'extremist'.

I see a former colleague of Mr Farage doesn't exactly have kind words to say about him in this season of goodwill.”

This whole argument between Farage and Cox started because of Cox tweeting :

@Nigel_Farage blaming politicians for the actions of extremists? That's a slippery slope Nigel

From your post it seems clear that you disagree with Cox and agree with Farage, is that right ?
allaorta
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ennerjee:
“Perhaps the BBC has decided that he's worthy of the airtime because of the following:

UKIP winning the EU Parliamentmentary elections in 2014;
UKIP receiving 4 million votes in the General Election in 2015;
UKIP being the only united party campaigning for a LEAVE vote.

Nigel Farage was also the Party's leader throughout that time.

He's also a brilliant debater (ask Nick Clegg) who pulls in viewers.

I can think of many guests on QT who aren't politicians, but "celebrities", who are allowed airtime to pontificate from their ivory towers while pretending to know everything about the world. Eddie Izzard immediately springs to mind as do Will Self and Jo Brand, none of whom have a parliamentary seat.”

.....or wisdom, or worthwhile input......rabble without a cause.
MidnightFalcon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“I thought he was sticking two fingers up at Farage, not the fishermen?”

That was his story when it backfired on him. The Momentum observers who left his yacht in disgust saw it differently.
BanglaRoad
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“Since you are quoting a response to me I'll I assume that's aimed in my direction?.

I never have been and never will be a "kipper" but then I suppose it's easier to bang a negative label on people who don't subscribe to your script than to look at the flaws on your own "side". What were we saying about extremists?

Presumably this guys a "kipper" too?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...t-muslims.html”

Dunno what that link has got to do with the Kipper adoration of all things Farage but hey why should it?
Just throw anything into the pot to deflect.
Dotheboyshall
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“That was his story when it backfired on him. The Momentum observers who left his yacht in disgust saw it differently.”

Jo Cox, her husband or Bob Geldof?
trunkster
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Did Brendan Cox actually "attack" Farage, or did he merely question what he was saying? In any case, the response from Farage was grossly disproportionate.”

"disproportionate" as in Brendan Cox is beyond criticism or reproach?
trunkster
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Dunno what that link has got to do with the Kipper adoration of all things Farage but hey why should it?
Just throw anything into the pot to deflect.”

What more so than the recent deification of Saint Brendan of Batley & Spen?
BanglaRoad
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“What more so than the recent deification of Saint Brendan of Batley & Spen?”

Why do you feel it necessary to call Mr Cox St Brendan?
Just typical kipper spite.
paralax
21-12-2016
There are more people who agree with Farage over his view of Merkel than disagree with him. He was a lone voice in the EU parliament when he talked about the consequences and problems her invitation would cause, and it's a pity they didn't listen.

As for the organisation, I think if you threaten to sue someone who expresses an opinion you don't like, or have a policy to shut down debate, unless you agree with the speaker it rather proves his point.

Where Farage went wrong was to leave out the phrase ' in my opinion' when giving his view on the organisation Brendon Cox supports. But fundraising to sue him - in my opinion- is an extreme reaction.
jjwales
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Why do you feel it necessary to call Mr Cox St Brendan?
Just typical kipper spite.”

Utter nastiness more like.
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