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Farage brands Brendan Cox an extremist
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Penny Crayon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“That was his story when it backfired on him. The Momentum observers who left his yacht in disgust saw it differently.”

Cox wasn't on a yacht - he was in a dinghy with his wife and kids.
James2001
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“I thought he was sticking two fingers up at Farage, not the fishermen?”

Farage has done plenty of sticking two fingers up at fishermen himself by not turning up the the EU fisheries committee he's on (and gets paid for).
jjwales
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by paralax:
“There are more people who agree with Farage over his view of Merkel than disagree with him. He was a lone voice in the EU parliament when he talked about the consequences and problems her invitation would cause, and it's a pity they didn't listen.

As for the organisation, I think if you threaten to sue someone who expresses an opinion you don't like, or have a policy to shut down debate, unless you agree with the speaker it rather proves his point.

Where Farage went wrong was to leave out the phrase ' in my opinion' when giving his view on the organisation Brendon Cox supports. But fundraising to sue him - in my opinion- is an extreme reaction.”

Why? They are not threatening to sue him because they don't like his opinions, that would be ridiculous. It's because what he said is potentially libellous.
MidnightFalcon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Dunno what that link has got to do with the Kipper adoration of all things Farage but hey why should it?
Just throw anything into the pot to deflect.”

Yeah I figured pointing out that there was fault enough to go round on both sides would be too much for you to process, Carry on labelling if it makes you feel good about yourself.

Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“Jo Cox, her husband or Bob Geldof?”

Read the post I was responding to, it's not brain surgery.
snowy ghost
21-12-2016
I heard Mr Farage in discussion with Nick F on LBC yesterday and he was critical of Mrs Merkel
Earlier in the morning Nick F said that Nigel had said that things like this would happen and that he felt Mrs M was criminally responsible and i think he said she should face trial .
Cant remember it exactly but it was making me cross
Ferrari must have showed him the tweet , for Nigel F to respond to.

But its a free country and they are entitled to their opinions
As is Brendan Cox


The criticism now is that he was potentially libellous about Hope Not Hate
Ferrari didnt challenge or comment
So they can decide to defend themselves

And good on em for crowd funding
MidnightFalcon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Why? They are not threatening to sue him because they don't like his opinions, that would be ridiculous. It's because what he said is potentially libellous.”

I think it's a great idea, Farage equates support for "Hope not Hate" as support for "extremists", let the courts decide if he's right.
I wonder if there will be violent protest outside on the day....
Penny Crayon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by RunawayGroom:
“Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.”

Oooh I do love a good proverb.



https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...cd2dcdb91f.jpg
allaorta
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by snowy ghost:
“I heard Mr Farage in discussion with Nick F on LBC yesterday and he was critical of Mrs Merkel
Earlier in the morning Nick F said that Nigel had said that things like this would happen and that he felt Mrs M was criminally responsible and i think he said she should face trial .
Cant remember it exactly but it was making me cross
Ferrari must have showed him the tweet , for Nigel F to respond to.

But its a free country and they are entitled to their opinions
As is Brendan Cox


The criticism now is that he was potentially libellous about Hope Not Hate
Ferrari didnt challenge or comment
So they can decide to defend themselves

And good on em for crowd funding”

Seemingly the group that attacked UKIP during the referendum campaign were from Hope not Hate.
glasshalffull
21-12-2016
Aaargh another of those threads where wormwoods come crawling out to say stuff leaves you with only one option...to go away and scrub yourself down with bleach and make generous donations to charities that help those with mental health problems.
Syntax Error
21-12-2016
I thought Farage wanted his life back?

Now that he isn't UKIP leader anymore (for now), he's in the media more than ever!

The sooner he heads off to The States to become Trump's wig washer & become one of his beloved economic migrants, the better.
burneside
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Cox wasn't on a yacht - he was in a dinghy with his wife and kids.”

The woman on the inflatable boat was described as "unknown" by the press, and looks nothing like his wife.
Dotheboyshall
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by burneside:
“The woman on the inflatable boat was described as "unknown" by the press, and looks nothing like his wife.”

Are you sure?
MidnightFalcon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Cox wasn't on a yacht - he was in a dinghy with his wife and kids.”

And I was responding to a post which was responding to a post referring to Geldof and his infamous 2 fingered salute.
Dotheboyshall
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“And I was responding to a post referring to Geldof.”

What has Geldof got to do with Cox?
MidnightFalcon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“What has Geldof got to do with Cox?”

Read the thread. Or at least the last page.
burneside
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“Are you sure?”

I would suggest that picture is wrongly captioned, and you only see the back of the woman. The close-up photo in this article clearly shows the woman, and it doesn't look like Jo Cox to me.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...shift-gun.html
CSJB
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Why? They are not threatening to sue him because they don't like his opinions, that would be ridiculous. It's because what he said is potentially libellous.”

Potentially libellous - surely that covers nearly everything.
Hope not Hate (and many posters on DS) have said far more potentially libellous things about Farage, UKIP and their supporters.
Should Farage counter sue ?
Are we going to get to the ridiculous situation, whereby only rich and powerful people or organisations are allowed to give their view because they are the only ones who could afford the court action ?
jjwales
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by CSJB:
“Potentially libellous - surely that covers nearly everything.”

Well, it could cover a lot of things, but their lawyers will need to decide whether this is a case worth taking to court or not.

Quote:
“Hope not Hate (and many posters on DS) have said far more potentially libellous things about Farage, UKIP and their supporters.
Should Farage counter sue ?”

If he feels he has a case, I suppose he could. Though being rude about politicians is not the same thing as libelling them.

Quote:
“Are we going to get to the ridiculous situation, whereby only rich and powerful people or organisations are allowed to give their view because they are the only ones who could afford the court action ?”

We're already in the situation (and always have been) where only rich people can afford certain kinds of justice.
johnny_boi_UK
21-12-2016
http://www.economist.com/news/britai...-online-hatred

Hope not hate exaggerating claims of online hate
trunkster
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Why do you feel it necessary to call Mr Cox St Brendan?
Just typical kipper spite.”

Because he is not beyond reproach when he aligns himself with or supports such a dubious organization like Hate not Hope
trunkster
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_boi_UK:
“http://www.economist.com/news/britai...-online-hatred

Hope not hate exaggerating claims of online hate”

It's in their interest to ramp it up, much like Remoan have done since the 23rd June.
Penny Crayon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“Because he is not beyond reproach when he aligns himself with or supports such a dubious organization like Hate not Hope”

Hope not Hate doesn't look in the least dubious to me. Why would you say that?

Is it because it takes an anti Fascist stance?

Can someone enlighten me please? Are Fascists in fashion now or something? All this talk of patriotism and what our fathers/grandfathers fought for etc.

Has it crossed anyone's mind that they were fighting against exactly what is rearing it's ugly head today.
Stegan
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by HopesandDreams:
“Because unlike your regular liberal loving utopian fuelled idealogical muppets, he lives in the real world, calls as it usually is, and does not swerve questions with spin or deflection.

Irrelevant how many seats UKIP got, which under a different voting system would have seen far more UKIP MP's.

He has achieved far more than MP's who do have a seat, and leaves the majority of elected MP's in the shade.”

All very true, but why waste your time talking sense on a thread of this type? This is clearly a hate on Nigel Farage thread with the usual suspects scuttling out of the woodwork and taking the opportunity to spit out their ill informed bile.
CSJB
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_boi_UK:
“http://www.economist.com/news/britai...-online-hatred

Hope not hate exaggerating claims of online hate”

Hope not Hate have been spreading fake news for years, "newspapers" like the daily mirror usually just publish their propaganda without any checking whatsoever.
trunkster
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Hope not Hate doesn't look in the least dubious to me. Why would you say that?

Is it because it takes an anti Fascist stance?

Can someone enlighten me please? Are Fascists in fashion now or something? All this talk of patriotism and what our fathers/grandfathers fought for etc.

Has it crossed anyone's mind that they were fighting against exactly what is rearing it's ugly head today.”

Fascism in Britain? Really? and anyway who appointed them official fascism designators?
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