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Farage brands Brendan Cox an extremist
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WillMY
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by paralax:
“There are more people who agree with Farage over his view of Merkel than disagree with him. He was a lone voice in the EU parliament when he talked about the consequences and problems her invitation would cause, and it's a pity they didn't listen.

As for the organisation, I think if you threaten to sue someone who expresses an opinion you don't like, or have a policy to shut down debate, unless you agree with the speaker it rather proves his point.

Where Farage went wrong was to leave out the phrase ' in my opinion' when giving his view on the organisation Brendon Cox supports. But fundraising to sue him - in my opinion- is an extreme reaction.”

bib tis very daft.

Took a look at their Facebook page (which is very poor) and the organisation.

The organisation is a travesty as is their name.
Penny Crayon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Staunchy:
“I could have sworn that upthread people were stating categorically that there weren't any people insinuating and associating Brexit with the murder and twisting the tragedy as a tool to use against those who voted that way.”

Your comprehension skills seem to be somewhat lacking.

I think you'll find that people were saying that in the days leading up to the referendum most people tried their hardest to avoid using the Brexit/Farage connection to Jo Cox death because it would have been unseemly and it would have been used against the remain campaign saying they were influencing the vote.

The referendum is over the case has been heard and I don't think there's much doubt that the Brexit rhetoric had a big influence on the murderer is there? Or are judges one of these 'experts' we don't listen to anymore?
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Jones9:
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The terrorist's house had stuff on Nazi Germany, Neo-Nazi groups, White Nationalists and White Supremacists, and people who have committed murderers in the name of those causes.”

Heard of many of the followers of these extremist groups who voted "remain" have you?
Blairdennon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by samantha_vine:
“But how did he do in the general election?”

Does the EU parliament not count? It is supposed to be the place that Remain have said protects our interests in the EU.
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blairdennon:
“Does the EU parliament not count? It is supposed to be the place that Remain have said protects our interests in the EU.”

Well it might count for something if he ever showed up to work there
Staunchy
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Your comprehension skills seem to be somewhat lacking.

I think you'll find that people were saying that in the days leading up to the referendum most people tried their hardest to avoid using the Brexit/Farage connection to Jo Cox death because it would have been unseemly and it would have been used against the remain campaign saying they were influencing the vote.

The referendum is over the case has been heard and I don't think there's much doubt that the Brexit rhetoric had a big influence on the murderer is there? Or are judges one of these 'experts' we don't listen to anymore?”

Yeah, no need for that. I comprehend well enough to know that while you sit there as if butter wouldn't melt, you were one of the most active ones doing exactly what I said in that Jo Cox thread.
Blairdennon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“Well it might count for something if he ever showed up to work there ”

Ah now you are relating how you view he does his job with the relative importance of the position. In that case Blair should be a non entity but he was still PM of the UK.
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blairdennon:
“Ah now you are relating how you view he does his job with the relative importance of the position. In that case Blair should be a non entity but he was still PM of the UK.”

But this thread hasn't got anything to do with Tony Blair. Nice try at deflection though
Mark_Jones9
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“Heard of many of the followers of these extremist groups who voted "remain" have you? ”

Farage appealed to the ethnic minority vote by saying less immigration from the EU would mean easier immigration from the rest of the world in particular commonwealth nations. Do you think that is a vote winner with white nationalists?

I doubt many people who idolize Stalin vote Conservative does that make Labour's brand of politics one of violence and mass murderer? I also doubt many people who idolize Hitler vote Labour does that make Conservative'd brand of politics one of violence and mass murder too?
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Jones9:
“Farage appealed to the ethnic minority vote by saying less immigration from the EU would mean easier immigration from the rest of the world in particular commonwealth nations. Do you think that is a vote winner with white nationalists?

I doubt many people who idolize Stalin vote Conservative does that make Labour's brand of politics one of violence and mass murderer? I also doubt many people who idolize Hitler vote Labour does that make Conservative'd brand of politics one of violence and mass murder”

I'm sorry if you've misread what I said as in someway implicating Farage with the terrorist. I wasn't at all and fully realise they're worlds apart. It's just truly bizarre though that Farage decided to, out of the blue, go on the radio and slag off the victims husband
Penny Crayon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Staunchy:
“Yeah, no need for that. I comprehend well enough to know that while you sit there as if butter wouldn't melt, you were one of the most active ones doing exactly what I said in that Jo Cox thread.”

Well I can't remember exactly what I posted at that time - what I do know is that I blamed farage's poster and the entire Brexit, xenophobic, hyperbole for winding up an already crazed man to commit such a crime.

I make no excuses for that whatsoever. I don't sit here like butter wouldn't melt in my mouth at all - I call a scumbag a scumbag - and the support for Farages nasty, spiteful dig at Brendan Cox is pretty scummy too.
smudges dad
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blairdennon:
“Does the EU parliament not count? It is supposed to be the place that Remain have said protects our interests in the EU.”

Of course the EU parliament counts, it's just that Farage doesn't think it does, even though he takes the money. In terms of voting he is 744/747 with only 40.25% of votes (the three below didn't vote at all), in influence he isn't ranked and he has no registered activities (opinions or reports). He is an embarrassment to the people of the UK for his attitude to his job.
Talma
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by allaorta:
“Seemingly the group that attacked UKIP during the referendum campaign were from Hope not Hate.”

Exactly. Presumably people think that was okay and not a problem as it's a group they seem to support.

Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“I'm sorry if you've misread what I said as in someway implicating Farage with the terrorist. I wasn't at all and fully realise they're worlds apart. It's just truly bizarre though that Farage decided to, out of the blue, go on the radio and slag off the victims husband”

It wasn't out of the blue, was it? Cox started it by having a dig at Farage, who responded. That's sort of how it works.
Talma
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“You know how it works.
Anything other than fawning adoration of Farage is treated as an "attack" on the glorious leader.”

You know how it works.
Anything other than fawning adoration of Corbyn is treated as an 'attack' on the glorious leader.

Funny how it's different when it's done to someone you don't approve of.
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Talma:
“You know how it works.
Anything other than fawning adoration of Corbyn is treated as an 'attack' on the glorious leader.

Funny how it's different when it's done to someone you don't approve of.”

Sorry, you seem to have posted in the wrong thread, this is a thread about Farage attacing a murder victims husband. There's plenty of other threads about Corbyn and what he is and isn't doing which your post might have some relevance to.
MargMck
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“Of course the EU parliament counts, it's just that Farage doesn't think it does, even though he takes the money. In terms of voting he is 744/747 with only 40.25% of votes (the three below didn't vote at all), in influence he isn't ranked and he has no registered activities (opinions or reports). He is an embarrassment to the people of the UK for his attitude to his job.”

The reality is that he is only an embarrassment to those who love the EU and its parliament.
Significant numbers in the UK have been voting in him and more and more UKIP MEPs for years - until they became our largest party there. At any time if enough people were "embarrassed" they could have instead voted in pro-EU candidates in the elections, but they did not.
Those who have been voting UKIP to the top of the UK EU league know he only goes there to point a finger, lift stones and rant. So his voting record in what many of us see as Fat Cat Toytown Parliament is of absolutely no consequence, and the pay has been in return for keeping the Leave flag flying.
That may be unpalatable to you, but it's what has actually been happening.
Nodger
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“The reality is that he is only an embarrassment to those who love the EU and its parliament.
Significant numbers in the UK have been voting in him and more and more UKIP MEPs for years - until they became our largest party there. At any time if enough people were "embarrassed" they could have instead voted in pro-EU candidates in the elections, but they did not.
Those who have been voting UKIP to the top of the UK EU league know he only goes there to point a finger, lift stones and rant. So his voting record in what many of us see as Fat Cat Toytown Parliament is of absolutely no consequence, and the pay has been in return for keeping the Leave flag flying.
That may be unpalatable to you, but it's what has actually been happening.”

Indeed.
trunkster
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“Given the terrorist was an admirer and follower of Farage's brand of politics, you would think that anyone in Farage's position, other than denounce the terrorist would stay away from the whole Jo Cox situation. Instead, for some bizarre reason, Farage decided to go on radio and start slagging her widower off! Not only is he a nasty individual but he has no social and diplomatic skills whatsoever. It's disgusting and scary watching the amount of people trying to defend him here. It's nothing more than cultish behaviour.”

That's it? he had nothing to do with UKIP or Farage
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“The reality is that he is only an embarrassment to those who love the EU and its parliament.
Significant numbers in the UK have been voting in him and more and more UKIP MEPs for years - until they became our largest party there. At any time if enough people were "embarrassed" they could have instead voted in pro-EU candidates in the elections, but they did not.
Those who have been voting UKIP to the top of the UK EU league know he only goes there to point a finger, lift stones and rant. So his voting record in what many of us see as Fat Cat Toytown Parliament is of absolutely no consequence, and the pay has been in return for keeping the Leave flag flying.
That may be unpalatable to you, but it's what has actually been happening.”

I really find people voting him into this job bizarre for wanting him to do that. As they want us to exit the EU, how on earth do they think that will help to make it go as smoothly as possible and renegotiate a new deal with the EU if Nigel has been putting their backs up?
Nodger
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“I really find people voting him into this job bizarre for wanting him to do that. As they want us to exit the EU, how on earth do they think that will help to make it go as smoothly as possible and renegotiate a new deal with the EU if Nigel has been putting their backs up?”

Nobody gives/gave a shite what he went there to do. It's not bizarre if you can understand 'just not caring one iota'. Pure British two finger voting.
Union Jock
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“I really find people voting him into this job bizarre for wanting him to do that. As they want us to exit the EU, how on earth do they think that will help to make it go as smoothly as possible and renegotiate a new deal with the EU if Nigel has been putting their backs up?”

Farage is only one person and if they can't handle him they should seek a career elsewhere.
MargMck
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“I really find people voting him into this job bizarre for wanting him to do that. As they want us to exit the EU, how on earth do they think that will help to make it go as smoothly as possible and renegotiate a new deal with the EU if Nigel has been putting their backs up?”

It's not all about Farage, even if it seems that way sometimes. It might seem bizarre to you but those of us campaigning for Brexit for many years on democracy and sovereignty grounds were more than happy to have him and other Eurosceptics in prominent positions where what they said, did and discovered could feed back here. Think of it as marketing.
Plus he was great in interviews and telly showdowns with the likes of Clegg.
The focus was on pushing up the anti-EU vote here, siphoned off from the two main political parties, so that eventually we would get the referendum. It worked.
Blair would understand this - since the result he's been campaigning for fervent Remainers to act as "insurgents" (his word) to stall or water down Brexit.
As for Farage and crew "getting EU backs up", this will become inconsequential when the big boys/ girls get round negotiating tables with The Money hovering in the background, determined pieces will fall where their interests lie.
anne_666
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Miasima Goria:
“Oh, he also blames Merkel for the deaths in Berlin.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

es, well of course he would know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox. He backs organisations like Hope Not Hate who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful but actually pursue violent and very undemocratic means. And I’m sorry Mr Cox, but it is time people started to take responsibility for what’s happened. Mrs Merkel has directly caused a whole number of social and terrorist problems in Germany. It is about time we confronted that truth.

When Ferrari put it to Farage that Cox had suffered more from extremism then anyone, Farage replied:

Yes, it’s a terrible thing what happened to his family, with the murder of his wife, but he continues to be active in the political arena. And given some of the organisations he supports, I can’t just stand here and say I’m not going to respond.
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He's always been a vacuous, embarrassing, disingenuous and opportunist ape and I don't love the EU or it's Parliament and I voted out.
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nodger:
“Nobody gives/gave a shite what he went there to do. It's not bizarre if you can understand 'just not caring one iota'. Pure British two finger voting.”

It is bizarre when you consider a lot of the brexiters are of the flag waving patriotic type yet here they are wanting to possibly damage their county just so they can stick two fingers up at someone. Dosen't sound very patriotic to me!
Shopaholic26
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Stegan:
“All very true, but why waste your time talking sense on a thread of this type? This is clearly a hate on Nigel Farage thread with the usual suspects scuttling out of the woodwork and taking the opportunity to spit out their ill informed bile.”

It's all fun and games. The same old bile and moaning about him being popular. Yeah, he's popular because people are sick and tired of having their voices suppressed by the easily offended. They hate racism, unless it's against a white person. Hypocrites the lot of them.
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