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jjwales
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“The reality is that he is only an embarrassment to those who love the EU and its parliament.”

Not so. I've always found him an embarrassment since he became an MEP, and I don't actually "love" the EU, even though I voted Remain.
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Shopaholic26:
“Hardly whining, it's called the truth. People wonder why "people like Farage" are popular, that's your answer.

Again, where did I say people shouldn't disagree with me? Another assumption and label.

I had my point proved straight away. If you want a voice, it's shut down by assuming you want to be hateful and racist.”

If you come straight into a thread labeling entire groups as hypocrites and slagging them off, don't be surprised when they bite back.
MargMck
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“And yet another completely irrelevant comparison. David Lammy shows up to work, Nigel Farage does not. It really is that simple.”

Look, I've explained it to you. Farage has been doing exactly the work the people who voted for him wanted him to do. So he has been highly successful in the role they gave him a mandate to pursue.
People didn't vote him in to sit their nodding wisely and then politely vote for or against the latest EU rigmarole. That was not the job he offered to do if elected. He was always open in how he would proceed, was voted in and went on to achieve all his objectives.
smudges dad
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“Look, I've explained it to you. Farage has been doing exactly the work the people who voted for him wanted him to do. So he has been highly successful in the role they gave him a mandate to pursue.
People didn't vote him in to sit their nodding wisely and then politely vote for or against the latest EU rigmarole. That was not the job he offered to do if elected. He was always open in how he would proceed, was voted in and went on to achieve all his objectives.”

Don't forget, he took loadsamoney for doing sod all. If he wasn't going to do the job, he should have declined the money.
Dacco
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“. David Lammy shows up to work, Nigel Farage does not.”

Might I suggest that Nigel completes as much more when he doesn't show up for work than when mr lammy does show up for work.
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“Look, I've explained it to you. Farage has been doing exactly the work the people who voted for him wanted him to do. So he has been highly successful in the role they gave him a mandate to pursue.
People didn't vote him in to sit their nodding wisely and then politely vote for or against the latest EU rigmarole. That was not the job he offered to do if elected. He was always open in how he would proceed, was voted in and went on to achieve all his objectives.”

Except he hasn't been doing any "work" other than showing up occasionally to vote in favour of ivory poaching and hanging around with his new Nazi friends. My description of people who voted him in to do this as bizarre is fully justified.
Shopaholic26
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“If you come straight into a thread labeling entire groups as hypocrites and slagging them off, don't be surprised when they bite back. ”

So there isn't bile in this thread? There aren't hypocrites? Oh no, how terrible of me to say such a thing. How that automatically means I must want to be hateful and racist beats me.
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dacco:
“Might I suggest that Nigel completes as much more when he doesn't show up for work than when mr lammy does show up for work.”

David Lammy's work includes far more than occasionally voting in favour of ivory poaching and making friends with Nazis. Laughable statement
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Shopaholic26:
“So there isn't bile in this thread? There aren't hypocrites? Oh no, how terrible of me to say such a thing. How that automatically means I must want to be hateful and racist beats me.”

Couldn't care less mate, you're the only one whining about it.
MargMck
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“Don't forget, he took loadsamoney for doing sod all. If he wasn't going to do the job, he should have declined the money.”

He did / does the job anti-EU voters explicitly wanted him to do. He said "If elected to Toytown I will do X,Y,Z with the aim of eventually doing myself out of a job" and since 1999 enough people have sent him there to do just that.

I see no reason for him not to be paid for doing the job his voters asked him to do.
What's more, for those of us who wanted out it was a teeny-weeny return of "EU money" to something we could agree with.
Blairdennon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“No, that's not my opinion at all. How he does his job is irrelevant to the point I was making. The point I was making is he dosen't do his job, full stop. You can yell about the completely irrelevant Tony Blair (who I wasn't a fan of either) all you like but he still got up and went to work at the job he was elected to do so isn't comparable to Nigel here, at all.”

Which is opinion, many people think he does a smashing job at the EU and exactly what they want him to do. But that is irrelevant. It is the position he holds that is important, not the opinion of those who wished he did not hold that position and it is the existing holding of that position that entitles him, irrespective of how much many wish it not to be, to recognition as a UK politician.
There is an argument that Blair did not do the job he was elected to do but did the job he wished to do. Farage has made no secret of what his party wishes to do and yet was still elected. That is democracy for you.
Shopaholic26
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“Couldn't care less mate, you're the only one whining about it.”

You cared enough to respond.
MargMck
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“Except he hasn't been doing any "work" other than showing up occasionally to vote in favour of ivory poaching and hanging around with his new Nazi friends. My description of people who voted him in to do this as bizarre is fully justified.”

Then we'll just have to accept that what seems bizarre to you makes perfect sense to millions of others, especially as they achieved their overall aim.
Boo Radley75
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blairdennon:
“Which is opinion, many people think he does a smashing job at the EU and exactly what they want him to do. But that is irrelevant. It is the position he holds that is important, not the opinion of those who wished he did not hold that position and it is the existing holding of that position that entitles him, irrespective of how much many wish it not to be, to recognition as a UK politician.
There is an argument that Blair did not do the job he was elected to do but did the job he wished to do. Farage has made no secret of what his party wishes to do and yet was still elected. That is democracy for you.”

In which case I would ask them why they are in favour of Ivory poaching and why they want us to be friends with Nazis?
Blairdennon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“Except he hasn't been doing any "work" other than showing up occasionally to vote in favour of ivory poaching and hanging around with his new Nazi friends. My description of people who voted him in to do this as bizarre is fully justified.”

He votes against more power going to the EU however that is configured, that was his commitment.
Mr Moritz
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“The response to that would depend on the subjective position of the observer, What is clear is that there has been no shortage of unreasoning "hatred" towards Farage both in the reaction to this statement and his treatment by the chronically misnamed "hope not hate" over many years.”

Maybe if Farage's wife is killed in similar circumstances, then maybe just maybe he might just get why what the hate is flowing his way, then again I'm sure he'll turn death to his advantage, he normally does.
BanglaRoad
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Shopaholic26:
“Your reply is exactly my point. You're first to attack and assume I want to be "racist and horrible".

You have suppressed my voice before I have even had a chance to say anything. You have already decided for me, what I am, what I want to say, and what I feel.

YOU'RE THE PROBLEM!”

I'm not stopping you from saying anything.
Please feel free to explain why you feel suppressed and what you want to say.
Fill your boots.
I want you to speak your mind so not sure why this is somehow a problem for you.
Unless what you want to say is .............
Blairdennon
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“In which case I would ask them why they are in favour of Ivory poaching and why they want us to be friends with Nazis?”

Did the resolution call for those in favour of poaching to say aye? I do not think so. Nazis?
MargMck
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“In which case I would ask them why they are in favour of Ivory poaching and why they want us to be friends with Nazis?”

If someone is electing Nazis to the EU parliament, the sooner we are out the better. After all, no BNP candidate has ever reached the British parliament, whereas the EU version seems to have an unfortunate record in that respect. But that's "democracy" for you.
terry45
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by James2001:
“Farage could murder puppies and there'd be people on here still defending him.”

See how much they defend him when he concedes Brexit is never going to happen the way he'd hoped for.
Union Jock
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“In which case I would ask them why they are in favour of Ivory poaching and why they want us to be friends with Nazis?”

Is any of that true?
Talma
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boo Radley75:
“Sorry, you seem to have posted in the wrong thread, this is a thread about Farage attacing a murder victims husband. There's plenty of other threads about Corbyn and what he is and isn't doing which your post might have some relevance to. ”

In case you didn't get it, it was just a little reversal, showing how Farage appears to be fair game for anyone to vent their bile on but if Corbyn is as much as mildly questioned all hell lets loose and suddenly it's not fair. There should be one set of standards for criticism of any politician, do you agree?

Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“When have I ever posted anything in support of Corbyn?
If you are going to lash out then try and get close to the target.”

If you think that was 'lashing out' then you must have an extremely thin skin.
allaorta
21-12-2016
I got back from a trip long enough to read three pages, much of which is Faragephobia. I'd say there are two or three people that need to take a good long look at what they've said, much of which is pretty disgusting. The last time I recall a thread where this happened, at least one person disappeared, along with a good number of posts.
Talma
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by terry45:
“See how much they defend him when he concedes Brexit is never going to happen the way he'd hoped for.”

He's already said he has concerns about the final outcome of Brexit not being what he wanted, but also that he has no control over what happens. Which is pretty obvious and always has been.
allaorta
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by terry45:
“See how much they defend him when he concedes Brexit is never going to happen the way he'd hoped for.”

He'll never concede that and if you took the trouble to listen to yesterday's inquisition of Mrs. May, you would have heard her say words to the effect if she couldn't get a realistic deal she'd walk away without one.
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