Originally Posted by crystallad:
“Has farage lied about anything?”
“Has farage lied about anything?”
I believe he hasn't.
Farage brands Brendan Cox an extremist
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I used to like Farage, now I just think he's a nasty, petty, spiteful piece of work. Not to mention a serial liar.
Originally Posted by Dacco:
“I believe he hasn't.”
“I believe he hasn't.”
So he has proof of Hope Not Hate being an extremist organisation?
The sort of proof that would stand analysis in court should HNH choose to sue him for libel?
Originally Posted by Sport1:
“Farage has never lied about anything at all?”
“Farage has never lied about anything at all?”
Correct.. Nigel Farage is his stage name.. His actual name is Truth McTruthface...
Originally Posted by Vast_Girth:
“Many many things, both little ones and big fat ones. James O Brien gave some very specific ( and provable) examples the other day on his show..”
“Many many things, both little ones and big fat ones. James O Brien gave some very specific ( and provable) examples the other day on his show..”
Have you got any of those "very specific" examples???, so I can check them out myself and don't have to rely upon that Gob on a stick O'Brien?
Originally Posted by Dacco:
“I believe he hasn't.”
“I believe he hasn't.”
I expect he has. Most of us lie about something now and again. For instance, I'm not a grey haired, sweet natured old Granny, but a bald, tattoed, long distance lorry driver. But don't tell anyone.
Originally Posted by James2001:
“Ahh, so now we have Kippers digging up his past...
Let's counter by seeing how many unsavoury things we can find in Farage's past.”
“Ahh, so now we have Kippers digging up his past...
Let's counter by seeing how many unsavoury things we can find in Farage's past.”
2015? Hardly digging up the past.
Farage is fair game and so is anyone in the public eye especially if those allegations weren't disproved .
Originally Posted by Miasima Goria:
“Oh, he also blames Merkel for the deaths in Berlin.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
es, well of course he would know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox. He backs organisations like Hope Not Hate who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful but actually pursue violent and very undemocratic means. And I’m sorry Mr Cox, but it is time people started to take responsibility for what’s happened. Mrs Merkel has directly caused a whole number of social and terrorist problems in Germany. It is about time we confronted that truth.
When Ferrari put it to Farage that Cox had suffered more from extremism then anyone, Farage replied:
Yes, it’s a terrible thing what happened to his family, with the murder of his wife, but he continues to be active in the political arena. And given some of the organisations he supports, I can’t just stand here and say I’m not going to respond.”
“Oh, he also blames Merkel for the deaths in Berlin.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
es, well of course he would know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox. He backs organisations like Hope Not Hate who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful but actually pursue violent and very undemocratic means. And I’m sorry Mr Cox, but it is time people started to take responsibility for what’s happened. Mrs Merkel has directly caused a whole number of social and terrorist problems in Germany. It is about time we confronted that truth.
When Ferrari put it to Farage that Cox had suffered more from extremism then anyone, Farage replied:
Yes, it’s a terrible thing what happened to his family, with the murder of his wife, but he continues to be active in the political arena. And given some of the organisations he supports, I can’t just stand here and say I’m not going to respond.”
100% agree with him. Truth hurts. If some took the cloth out their ears, and opened their rose tinted spectacle eyes, they might get where he is coming from.
Originally Posted by Dingbat:
“The sort of proof that would stand analysis in court should HNH choose to sue him for libel?”
“The sort of proof that would stand analysis in court should HNH choose to sue him for libel?”
A lot of us have noticed the extravagant use of the law, especially libel when making claims, often true, against the filthy left..... time for a re-think of the law in this country.
Originally Posted by Dacco:
“A lot of us have noticed the extravagant use of the law, especially libel when making claims, often true, against the filthy left..... time for a re-think of the law in this country.”
“A lot of us have noticed the extravagant use of the law, especially libel when making claims, often true, against the filthy left..... time for a re-think of the law in this country.”
On what basis do you leap to that conclusion?
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Brendan cox is an opportunist, a thoroughly dislikable slug we will unfortunately be hearing a lot more from as he capitalises on his 'fame'.”
“Brendan cox is an opportunist, a thoroughly dislikable slug we will unfortunately be hearing a lot more from as he capitalises on his 'fame'.”
I was rather surprised that, in the days following his wife's death, the grief-stricken husband was able to collaborate with two of the country's leading PR agencies to organise a memorial a mere seven days later. Memorials are usually held quite some time after a person's death, not before they have even been buried. The whole thing was a political event conveniently timed on the eve of the referendum.
Originally Posted by Dacco:
“A lot of us have noticed the extravagant use of the law, especially libel when making claims, often true, against the filthy left..... time for a re-think of the law in this country.”
“A lot of us have noticed the extravagant use of the law, especially libel when making claims, often true, against the filthy left..... time for a re-think of the law in this country.”
Such as?
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“Fair comment from Farage, if Cox is active on the political scene he will have to put up with those who disagree with him. The fact that his wife was murdered does not make him an expert on anything.”
“Fair comment from Farage, if Cox is active on the political scene he will have to put up with those who disagree with him. The fact that his wife was murdered does not make him an expert on anything.”
True.
I am sure Brendan Cox wouldn't use his wife's murder for political gain.
Or let me put it this way - he shouldn't use her murder for political gain.
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Statement from Hope Not Hate:”
“Statement from Hope Not Hate:”
Yawn, go for it, a fine example of truth hurts.
Originally Posted by Dacco:
“A lot of us have noticed the extravagant use of the law, especially libel when making claims, often true, against the filthy left..... time for a re-think of the law in this country.”
“A lot of us have noticed the extravagant use of the law, especially libel when making claims, often true, against the filthy left..... time for a re-think of the law in this country.”
Examples please.
Or do we just take your word as truth?
Originally Posted by burneside:
“I was rather surprised that, in the days following his wife's death, the grief-stricken husband was able to collaborate with two of the country's leading PR agencies to organise a memorial a mere seven days later. Memorials are usually held quite some time after a person's death, not before they have even been buried. The whole thing was a political event conveniently timed on the eve of the referendum.”
“I was rather surprised that, in the days following his wife's death, the grief-stricken husband was able to collaborate with two of the country's leading PR agencies to organise a memorial a mere seven days later. Memorials are usually held quite some time after a person's death, not before they have even been buried. The whole thing was a political event conveniently timed on the eve of the referendum.”
Who the hell are you to tell people how they should behave when grieving?
Originally Posted by WillMY:
“True.
I am sure Brendan Cox wouldn't use his wife's murder for political gain.
Or let me put it this way - he shouldn't use her murder for political gain.”
“True.
I am sure Brendan Cox wouldn't use his wife's murder for political gain.
Or let me put it this way - he shouldn't use her murder for political gain.”
He shouldn't and hasn't, so nothing to worry about then.
Originally Posted by Aristaeus:
“Who the hell are you to tell people how they should behave when grieving?”
“Who the hell are you to tell people how they should behave when grieving?”
"The UKIP guide to grieving"
Originally Posted by GibsonSG:
“On what basis do you leap to that conclusion?”
“On what basis do you leap to that conclusion?”
Cos according to kipper logic, Nigel said it on the wireless, so it must be true?
Originally Posted by Miasima Goria:
“Oh, he also blames Merkel for the deaths in Berlin.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
es, well of course he would know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox. He backs organisations like Hope Not Hate who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful but actually pursue violent and very undemocratic means. And I’m sorry Mr Cox, but it is time people started to take responsibility for what’s happened. Mrs Merkel has directly caused a whole number of social and terrorist problems in Germany. It is about time we confronted that truth.
When Ferrari put it to Farage that Cox had suffered more from extremism then anyone, Farage replied:
Yes, it’s a terrible thing what happened to his family, with the murder of his wife, but he continues to be active in the political arena. And given some of the organisations he supports, I can’t just stand here and say I’m not going to respond.”
“Oh, he also blames Merkel for the deaths in Berlin.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
es, well of course he would know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox. He backs organisations like Hope Not Hate who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful but actually pursue violent and very undemocratic means. And I’m sorry Mr Cox, but it is time people started to take responsibility for what’s happened. Mrs Merkel has directly caused a whole number of social and terrorist problems in Germany. It is about time we confronted that truth.
When Ferrari put it to Farage that Cox had suffered more from extremism then anyone, Farage replied:
Yes, it’s a terrible thing what happened to his family, with the murder of his wife, but he continues to be active in the political arena. And given some of the organisations he supports, I can’t just stand here and say I’m not going to respond.”
Originally Posted by Miasima Goria:
“And who made Farage an expert on apportioning blame? This is not about disagreeing with Cox, but blaming his politics for causing deaths - he may say Jo Cox's death as a terrible thing but he is justifying it retrospectively..”
“And who made Farage an expert on apportioning blame? This is not about disagreeing with Cox, but blaming his politics for causing deaths - he may say Jo Cox's death as a terrible thing but he is justifying it retrospectively..”
Sorry but didn't some people blame the Leave Campaign for Jo Cox's murder at the time didn't some people then try to use it for a Remain vote!
I think you'll find these people are as bad as each other.
I don't have much respect for Brendan Cox I think he is a chancer for all sorts of reasons that might become apparent later but by the same token I am not a supporter of Farage generally.
But let us get some perspective politics are politics they take no prisoners on either side.
Originally Posted by Aristaeus:
“He shouldn't and hasn't, so nothing to worry about then.”
“He shouldn't and hasn't, so nothing to worry about then.”
Well from where I am standing it is a close call. In fact very close.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Examples please.
Or do we just take your word as truth?”
“Examples please.
Or do we just take your word as truth?”
you don't recognise baiting when you see it?
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