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Old 20-12-2016, 18:44
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Feeble and false or feeble but accurate ?
The former in this case.
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Old 20-12-2016, 18:48
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It's a bit rich of Cox to highlight to Farage that 'blaming politicians for the actions of extremists is a slippery slope'.

Wasn't this guy happy to let the murder of his wife by an extremist be used by some politicians in the referendum to pursue a political agenda and narrative that inferred that those having a leave opinion were in some way responsible for the atrocity?
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Old 20-12-2016, 18:48
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Yeah, the truth that they are not all victims. Take your head out of the sand love. Have a look at what you focus on. The difference is. I look at it all. You ignore the rape and the violence. I don't ignore the REAL victims.
You also ignore the murder by a British white supremacist of a democratically elected member of our sovereign parliament who was innocently walking along a street in her constituency. But that's inconvenient for you as the murderer was not one of those in Farage's poster.

As far as I'm concerned Farage is guilty of causing Jo Cox's death, and that's why he's reacting way he is to try and rid himself of the guilt.
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Old 20-12-2016, 18:55
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It's a bit rich of Cox to highlight to Farage that 'blaming politicians for the actions of extremists is a slippery slope'.

Wasn't this guy happy to let the murder of his wife by an extremist be used by some politicians in the referendum to pursue a political agenda and narrative that inferred that those having a leave opinion were in some way responsible for the atrocity?
Cox's death was ruthlessly used by Remainers in that final week before the referendum to garner support for their cause.
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Old 20-12-2016, 18:55
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Farage could murder puppies and there'd be people on here still defending him.
Some would offer to buy him a pint.

They've become so brainwashed by the far-right rhetoric that they no longer realise how shockingly vile they come across.
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Old 20-12-2016, 18:55
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It's a bit rich of Cox to highlight to Farage that 'blaming politicians for the actions of extremists is a slippery slope'.

Wasn't this guy happy to let the murder of his wife by an extremist be used by some politicians in the referendum to pursue a political agenda and narrative that inferred that those having a leave opinion were in some way responsible for the atrocity?
Was he happy for that to happen or have you made it up?
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Old 20-12-2016, 18:59
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Cox's death was ruthlessly used by Remainers in that final week before the referendum to garner support for their cause.
No it wasn't.

It was used by the far right shouting how the guy was a loner and "not one of theirs" - which he has been proved to be.

And worst of all, it was used by Brexiters screaming at how disgusting it was that the remain side were using her death, when no one actually did.
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Old 20-12-2016, 18:59
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Wasn't this guy happy to let the murder of his wife by an extremist be used by some politicians in the referendum to pursue a political agenda....
I'm sure you can provide a link to a photo or video of Brendan Cox smiling and happy in the days after his wife and mother of his children was stabbed numerous times and shot as she lay on the ground.

I did find this...
In a statement, Brendan Cox said: "Today is the beginning of a new chapter in our lives. More difficult, more painful, less joyful, less full of love. I and Jo's friends and family are going to work every moment of our lives to love and nurture our kids and to fight against the hate that killed Jo.

"Jo believed in a better world and she fought for it every day of her life with an energy, and a zest for life that would exhaust most people.

"She would have wanted two things above all else to happen now, one that our precious children are bathed in love and two, that we all unite to fight against the hatred that killed her.

Hate doesn't have a creed, race or religion, it is poisionous.

"Jo would have no regrets about her life, she lived every day of it to the full."
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:05
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You also ignore the murder by a British white supremacist of a democratically elected member of our sovereign parliament who was innocently walking along a street in her constituency. But that's inconvenient for you as the murderer was not one of those in Farage's poster.

As far as I'm concerned Farage is guilty of causing Jo Cox's death, and that's why he's reacting way he is to try and rid himself of the guilt.
Frightening thought process you have.
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:06
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You also ignore the murder by a British white supremacist of a democratically elected member of our sovereign parliament who was innocently walking along a street in her constituency. But that's inconvenient for you as the murderer was not one of those in Farage's poster.

As far as I'm concerned Farage is guilty of causing Jo Cox's death, and that's why he's reacting way he is to try and rid himself of the guilt.
What connection between Thomas Mair and Farage are you aware of that makes you think that?

Thomas Mar's house had books, magazines, ornaments that were to do with Nazis Germany, Neo-Nazi groups and white supremacist mass murders. Not stuff about Nigel Farage or UKIP.
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:18
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You also ignore the murder by a British white supremacist of a democratically elected member of our sovereign parliament who was innocently walking along a street in her constituency. But that's inconvenient for you as the murderer was not one of those in Farage's poster.

As far as I'm concerned Farage is guilty of causing Jo Cox's death, and that's why he's reacting way he is to try and rid himself of the guilt.
and do you believe Merkel is also responsible for the deaths of the people in Berlin,Nice,Paris and Brussels?
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:21
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No it wasn't.

It was used by the far right shouting how the guy was a loner and "not one of theirs" - which he has been proved to be.

And worst of all, it was used by Brexiters screaming at how disgusting it was that the remain side were using her death, when no one actually did.
Really? Here's good old Chuka Umunna on the 20th June

Remain-supporting Labour MP Chuka Umunna told LBC: "I think we've got to separate the awful murder of Jo from the EU referendum campaign.

Everybody knows that she fervently believed that we should stay in the EU. That's what I last spoke to her about when I spoke to her the week before her death.

I've been very, very careful in any comments that I have made not to seek to conflate her murder with the EU referendum campaign and I think I'm going to stick to that rule."

He added: "What I'm hoping, in the last few days following the awful and tragic murder of Jo, is that perhaps we can have a bit more of a calmer debate around the EU referendum.

"I think that is right, that would honour her memory and my sense is that that is what the public wants too."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-20160620-1107

Four different occasions where he mentioned the death of Jo in the same sentence as the EU referendum. For all of his faux compassionate and elevated thinking, he is explicitly doing the very thing that he is trying to make everyone else believe people shouldn't be doing. And hence reinforcing the sentiment that he really wants to get across - that of connecting her death with the EU referendum.

You might also want to seek out how Polly Toynbee sought to exploit the death of Jo Cox.
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:21
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Remain campaign director Will Straw was widely criticized for an email he sent campaigners and a conference call he made in which he said in regard to Jo Cox's murder.
"We need to recognise that people have been pulled up short by Jo Cox’s death"
"call out the other side for what they have done to stir division and resentment in the UK"
"In all the conversations you have with people in all the campaigning you do just think about this one line"
"People should vote remain for more jobs, lower prices, workers rights,stronger public services and a decent tolerant United Kingdom"
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:25
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I'm sure you can provide a link to a photo or video of Brendan Cox smiling and happy in the days after his wife and mother of his children was stabbed numerous times and shot as she lay on the ground.

I did find this...
Well he still found the time to use his voice to score political points on his Twitter account.

Hardly the actions of someone who didn't want to politicise the awful tragedy that befell him and his family.
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:26
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Really? Here's good old Chuka Umunna on the 20th June

Remain-supporting Labour MP Chuka Umunna told LBC: "I think we've got to separate the awful murder of Jo from the EU referendum campaign.

Everybody knows that she fervently believed that we should stay in the EU. That's what I last spoke to her about when I spoke to her the week before her death.

I've been very, very careful in any comments that I have made not to seek to conflate her murder with the EU referendum campaign and I think I'm going to stick to that rule."

He added: "What I'm hoping, in the last few days following the awful and tragic murder of Jo, is that perhaps we can have a bit more of a calmer debate around the EU referendum.

"I think that is right, that would honour her memory and my sense is that that is what the public wants too."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-20160620-1107

Four different occasions where he mentioned the death of Jo in the same sentence as the EU referendum. For all of his faux compassionate and elevated thinking, he is explicitly doing the very thing that he is trying to make everyone else believe people shouldn't be doing. And hence reinforcing the sentiment that he really wants to get across - that of connecting her death with the EU referendum.

You might also want to seek out how Polly Toynbee sought to exploit the death of Jo Cox.
I am afraid you are right that some people did seek to exploit her death to sway the vote for remain including the head of the remain campaign.

Yet once the polls closed these same people barely mentioned her again and she disappeared from the coverage.

I found it a little unseemingly at the time and it was also rather insulting to her real friends and family.
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:41
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Economist: 'Hope not Hate' exaggerate 'hate' speech over Jo Cox MP murder.

http://www.economist.com/news/britai...-online-hatred
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:50
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Well he still found the time to use his voice to score political points on his Twitter account.

Hardly the actions of someone who didn't want to politicise the awful tragedy that befell him and his family.
I'm sure you can provide a link..I can feel the outrage oozing from within you.
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:55
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Really? Here's good old Chuka Umunna on the 20th June

Remain-supporting Labour MP Chuka Umunna told LBC: "I think we've got to separate the awful murder of Jo from the EU referendum campaign.

Everybody knows that she fervently believed that we should stay in the EU. That's what I last spoke to her about when I spoke to her the week before her death.

I've been very, very careful in any comments that I have made not to seek to conflate her murder with the EU referendum campaign and I think I'm going to stick to that rule."

He added: "What I'm hoping, in the last few days following the awful and tragic murder of Jo, is that perhaps we can have a bit more of a calmer debate around the EU referendum.

"I think that is right, that would honour her memory and my sense is that that is what the public wants too."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-20160620-1107

Four different occasions where he mentioned the death of Jo in the same sentence as the EU referendum. For all of his faux compassionate and elevated thinking, he is explicitly doing the very thing that he is trying to make everyone else believe people shouldn't be doing. And hence reinforcing the sentiment that he really wants to get across - that of connecting her death with the EU referendum.

You might also want to seek out how Polly Toynbee sought to exploit the death of Jo Cox.
If the best evidence you can find to back up your claim that Mr Cox was happy for remain supporting politicians to use the tragic incident to promote their cause is a quote from one saying, quite specifically, that it shouldn't be used in the campaign on the basis that he mentioned her, it's probably time to stop.

I know, you can't. He criticised the Glorious Leader so he must be attacked.
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:56
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Well he still found the time to use his voice to score political points on his Twitter account.

Hardly the actions of someone who didn't want to politicise the awful tragedy that befell him and his family.
If you try a bit harder, you might be able to reach those straws you're clutching at to try to justify Farage's latest tirade of falsehoods.

The question is will he apologise for his baseless outburst, or will he go to court?
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Old 20-12-2016, 19:57
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Economist: 'Hope not Hate' exaggerate 'hate' speech over Jo Cox MP murder.

http://www.economist.com/news/britai...-online-hatred
Exaggerating doesn't make them an extremist organisation, though, does it?
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:10
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I believe any group or organisation who's members use violence and the threat of violence is an extremist group.
You must have different values to me.

That's UKIP then
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:18
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Exaggerating doesn't make them an extremist organisation, though, does it?
Does violence against legal political parties? Also the celebration of the results of that violence. I would say that counts as extremism I would also say it is not what our politicians should be supporting, but they have and continue to do so.

http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.co.uk/2...ed-out-of.html
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:22
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Does violence against legal political parties? Also the celebration of the results of that violence. I would say that counts as extremism I would also say it is not what our politicians should be supporting, but they have and continue to do so.

http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.co.uk/2...ed-out-of.html
was Brendan Cox part of all that then ^^^?

Gosh - that's really real extremism isn't it?
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:26
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I don't understand?

How is he an extremist? What is Nigel Farage then?
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:30
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Also why does Farage get so much air time? What has he done for politics to get all this royalty?

How many seats did his party won when he was their leader? Why is he rated so much as poltiican?
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