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Scottish Government: Scotland's Place in Europe
The Scottish Government's proposals have just been published..
"Scotland’s Place in Europe sets out the Scottish Government’s position following the result of the EU Referendum." http://www.gov.scot/Publications/2016/12/9234/0 They are seeking more devolved powers and want to remain in the single market. |
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The Scottish Government's proposals have just been published..
"Scotland’s Place in Europe sets out the Scottish Government’s position following the result of the EU Referendum." http://www.gov.scot/Publications/2016/12/9234/0 They are seeking more devolved powers and want to remain in the single market. They need to stop playing this ridiculous game of chess and either call another Neverendum (which she will lose and she knows it) or actually get on with the job of running Scotland's services and infrastructure which are failing terribly. |
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They are just playing silly games. The last thing the SNP want is a good Brexit deal for the UK. They want the worst case scenario (as they will call pretty much anything anyway) so they can justify calling for another Indy referendum.
Independence is all they want and anything else they say is just white noise. |
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So Scotland manages to remain within the EU in certain respects, including FOM and border controls. That will require a hard border between Scotland and the UK (and Ireland of course.) So what would that mean, a tartan fence patrolled by kilted Scottish customs and immigration officers facing their English equivalents? Chilly work and all very Roman. The Emperor Hadrian tried it and found it difficult and expensive to maintain, and he didn't have to contend with cars, juggernauts, trains and planes, only roving bands of woad-smeared savages. In the meantime we could plan for daily border ceremonies like those that take place between India and Pakistan, with much strutting, posturing and the exchange of mutual insults (check it on YouTube -great fun!). That could be a new tourist industry. Braveheart-style bared bottoms pointing south at sunset every day before a cheering audience, with the English Border Force responding with their rhythm sticks at the ready!
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How do you remain in the single market without FoM and if you're having FoM how do you square that with an open border with England?
They need to stop playing this ridiculous game of chess and either call another Neverendum (which she will lose and she knows it) or actually get on with the job of running Scotland's services and infrastructure which are failing terribly.
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So Scotland manages to remain within the EU in certain respects, including FOM and border controls. That will require a hard border between Scotland and the UK (and Ireland of course.) So what would that mean? A tartan fence patrolled by kilted Scottish customs and immigration officers facing their English equivalents. Chilly work and all very Roman. The Emperor Hadrian tried it and found it difficult and expensive to maintain, and he didn't have to contend with cars, juggernauts, trains and planes, only roving bands of woad-smeared savages. In the meantime we could plan for daily border ceremonies like those that take place between India and Pakistan, with much strutting, posturing and the exchange of mutual insults (check it on YouTube -great fun!). That could be a new tourist industry. Braveheart-style bared bottoms pointing south at sunset every day before a cheering audience, with the English Border Force responding with their rhythm sticks!
It's us English that need an end to FoM, the Scots are not affected by it. So it will be up to the English to build and maintain the border. |
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Anything to avoid the boring day job of actually have to run Scotland eh Nicola?
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Nicola needs to put up or shut up. It's all getting very boring now.
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Just more of the same old stuff.
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Not really up to the Scots.
It's us English that need an end to FoM, the Scots are not affected by it. So it will be up to the English to build and maintain the border. |
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In Scotland, more people voted to remain in the UK than voted to stay in the EU...yet Sturgeon is only caring about the ones who want to stay in the EU, she is the most dangerous woman in Scotland, this is going to end up in a huge messs
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Nicola Sturgeon want more cake from the English tax payers pockets with another bogey deal.And if not threating another referendum nothing new here too see folk,same old SNP same old rants and raves same very unscary tin pot Sturgeon.Go ahead Sturgeon hold your next one if it does not go your way you will loose.
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They are seeking more devolved powers and want to remain in the single market. |
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They can want all they want - doesn't mean they are getting it.
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They are also promising a free unicorn for every child, to transform the ocean into orangeade and guaranteeing that by the year 2030 Saltcoats will have a climate similar to Los Angeles.
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Not really up to the Scots.
It's us English that need an end to FoM, the Scots are not affected by it. So it will be up to the English to build and maintain the border. |
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May shouldn't waste any time on this from Sturgeon just say no and leave her to it.
If she wants another referendum she can have one in 2020.
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Theresa May will not say No. She will just leave Sturgeon to fail on her own.
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Theresa May will not say No. She will just leave Sturgeon to fail on her own.
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Untill they vote to leave the UK, Scotland's place in Europe is exactly the same as the UK's. Perhaps Westminister should give them another vote in a few months and make it clear its final.
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As a percentage of its total population, Scotland has a higher percentage of its total population who are citizens from other EU states than four out of the nine regions of the country that voted Leave. So, clearly Scots are more effected by FoM than people from those four regions are.
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We will not be 'given' our independence by you people.
We will take it, at a time of our own choosing. |
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We will not be 'given' our independence by you people.
We will take it, at a time of our own choosing. And now the problems Scotland would face are even more difficult so I wouldn't hold your breath. |
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We will not be 'given' our independence by you people.
We will take it, at a time of our own choosing. |
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