The most strident opponents to Visas have been businesses that said they wanted to Leave to change the immigration laws, to relax them for non-EU applicants.

The application for a visa can take months and there is no guarantee the applicant will be given access to the UK on arrival. Businesses gave examples of having spent thousands of pounds on behalf of a non EU applicant and it to fail at the last hurdle.

Still, might not need one for the UK once the India-UK trade deal is signed.

You said:


Now is it true that anyone wanting to work in the USA, remember they're a desired destination, would need a visa?

Now tell me why so many Remnants on here go on about immigration from outside the EU being greater than from within, hence requiring a visa?

It can be especially difficult for businesses and the people they want to employ when there are strict limits on the number of visas for each profession. You might have a great person who desperately wants the job but after several months of bureaucracy you find out this year's allocation of N visas has already been allocated and you are N+1.

The way Indian service companies get around the immigration visa rules is by sending people over on "temporary assignments" under the Intra-company transfer (ICT) rules which are subject to the work permit cap. Once we "take back control" that could easily happen with European companies where people are hired by a German subsidiary then "loaned" to the UK office for a few months. This really isn't good for business continuity as you get a constantly changing staff working on a project.



Yes, the USA is a desired destination for many young scientists from Europe as that's where many companies have their main research sites. However, it is very tough to get a visa (and may get tougher still under Trumpism) which makes the UK as an attractive alternative.

Because when the woman who was supposed to get that outside EU migration figure down to "tens of thousands" is now in charge of the country there seems little hope that leaving the EU will change immigration at all.

If they didn't need a visa the outside EU figure would be even higher; there's more people outside the EU y'see.

So what are you beefing about immigrants being denied access to Britain.

Only an outer could argue that more bureaucracy is not a problem.

What a confused world you live in.

There is no shortage of any of these (especially geophysicists ). Just the opposite at the moment with between about 120,000 and 165,000 jobs lost in the past 2 years

non sequitur

Just because leaving the EU won't make a difference isn't a comment on the efficacy of the system overall.

Which perhaps endorses PaulC's post that the skills list is slow to react to demand, as are all bureaucratic systems trying to control or influence such a thing as supply and demand.

Indeed. Which is why it is such a bad idea that politicians and civil servants should be able to decide how many work visa each sector of the economy "needs". You'd be "taking back control" but giving it to people who really didn't know what they were doing. Far better to let the market decide.