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Old 20-12-2016, 19:47
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she acts as if she was born married, if kathy truly wants to have her own identity rather than living in the shadow of all her ex husbands i would say she should go back to being Kathy Hills.
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:00
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she acts as if she was born married, if kathy truly wants to have her own identity rather than living in the shadow of all her ex husbands i would say she should go back to being Kathy Hills.
But we have never known her as Kathy Hills. Only as Kathy Beale or Kathy Mitchell

If she called herself by her maiden name then nobody would know who she is
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:00
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Kathy really has come home, Gillian Taylforth has finally found Kathy again.
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:02
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She spent the best part of 20 yrs as Kathy Beale, she probably feels more attachment to it then the others.
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:03
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She spent the last ten yrs or so dead, that doesnt seem to be hampering her.

She should go by whatever her grave says
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:04
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Hills, like Sullivan, mightn't hold the best memories of her since her parents were neglectful and abusive on top of being raped and giving away the resulting baby.

I suppose you could argue that she was raped as a Beale as well but that was after like 20 years of being happy with Pete.
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:07
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Hills, like Sullivan, mightn't hold the best memories of her since her parents were neglectful and abusive on top of being raped and giving away the resulting baby.

I suppose you could argue that she was raped as a Beale as well but that was after like 20 years of being happy with Pete.
She said something along those lines the other week
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:16
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She was Kathy Beale from marrying Pete at 19 until Marrying Phil in her mid-40's so she had that name longer than any other. She claims to have been happiest when she was Kathy Beale, did not have a happy childhood when she was Kathy Hills, and Beale is the name shared by her closest family members. I believe this is why.
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Old 20-12-2016, 20:46
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Nice to hear Pauline & Arthur being mentioned tonight.
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Old 20-12-2016, 21:10
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But we have never known her as Kathy Hills. Only as Kathy Beale or Kathy Mitchell

If she called herself by her maiden name then nobody would know who she is
we didnt know her as kathy sullivan either
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Old 20-12-2016, 21:11
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Hills, like Sullivan, mightn't hold the best memories of her since her parents were neglectful and abusive on top of being raped and giving away the resulting baby.

I suppose you could argue that she was raped as a Beale as well but that was after like 20 years of being happy with Pete.
to be honest i didnt know anything about her parents have they ever been onscreen? also when did they die/ assuming they are now both deceased. i know she was close to her brother ted hills who now lives in africa and he had two kids sarah and tony.
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Old 20-12-2016, 21:16
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I can understand why she would want to be Kathy Beale; what I don't understand, is divorced women, who have been treated horribly by scum of ex husbands, yet they keep their name, for yeas & years after a divorce.
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Old 20-12-2016, 21:18
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Old 20-12-2016, 21:23
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I can understand why she would want to be Kathy Beale; what I don't understand, is divorced women, who have been treated horribly by scum of ex husbands, yet they keep their name, for yeas & years after a divorce.
Beale is the family she is part of (Jane,Ian,Steven Beale) so to show she is part of them and proud she probably thought it was best to take the name.
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Old 21-12-2016, 00:55
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I can understand why she would want to be Kathy Beale; what I don't understand, is divorced women, who have been treated horribly by scum of ex husbands, yet they keep their name, for yeas & years after a divorce.
many of them simply cant be bothered to change their name and also some simply want to keep the family name as in most cases it includes kids.
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Old 21-12-2016, 01:25
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she acts as if she was born married, if kathy truly wants to have her own identity rather than living in the shadow of all her ex husbands i would say she should go back to being Kathy Hills.
She could and it would be the most sensible and diplomatic thing to do re not upsetting her children from two different marriages.

But I think the issue is that she was Kathy Beale from a very young age, about 16 or 17 I think and remained that for over 25 years. That was her name for much longer than Hills was. Almost twice as long.

Also, Kathy is not meant to have been close to her family, partly because of their reaction to the rape and pregnancy. They were meant to have been rough and she was thankful to get away from them.

So she never had this great life as Kathy Hills.

Crux is, she feels she is Kathy Beale. That is how she identifies herself, not as Petes wife, but as the Kathy when she was happiest with and trueest to herself.
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Old 21-12-2016, 01:39
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I can understand why she would want to be Kathy Beale; what I don't understand, is divorced women, who have been treated horribly by scum of ex husbands, yet they keep their name, for yeas & years after a divorce.
Not sure if we're talking generally or soap here but....

Most people I know that keep their husbands name do so because of children. They don't wosh to have a different surname to their child, especially if the child is still school age. And changing the chikdsrname brings a whole host of other complications.

Also, it is hassley. There isn't an automatic name change with banks, passports, tax office, DVLA so it involves sending originals of the decree absolute off with a change of name form to all of them which takes time and money. Plus, awkward if you're known professionally by a name, I nearly lost a reference soon after I married because the person being asked didn't recognise the different surname and said I was lying about having worked there. Luckily, a friend that.still worked there overheard and jumped in asking what name they didn't recognise, saying that it was me, please ring back.
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Old 21-12-2016, 02:33
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But we have never known her as Kathy Hills. Only as Kathy Beale or Kathy Mitchell

If she called herself by her maiden name then nobody would know who she is
With respect. In my opinion, only the terminally stupid wouldn't know who she was. She's still recogniseably Kathy whatever surname she has.

By your logic her being Sullivan for the last 18 months would mean nobody knows who she is. Yet, I'm sure all viewers do.
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Old 21-12-2016, 03:32
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She should have come back singing, " The hill is alive, with the sound of music"
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Old 21-12-2016, 06:33
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Beale is the family she is part of (Jane,Ian,Steven Beale) so to show she is part of them and proud she probably thought it was best to take the name.
Beale a name to be proud of, the name of a family that allows an innocent man go to jail for a crime he didn't commit to protect a psychopath of a son who murdered his sister and tried to murder his step mum, Max will return soon and show them how proud of the Beale name they should be hopefully.
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Old 21-12-2016, 07:55
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With respect. In my opinion, only the terminally stupid wouldn't know who she was. She's still recogniseably Kathy whatever surname she has.

By your logic her being Sullivan for the last 18 months would mean nobody knows who she is. Yet, I'm sure all viewers do.
On rereading this, my post is veey abrupt and rude. It's too late to delete or edit so please accept my apologies.
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Old 21-12-2016, 08:06
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Kathy Beale Sounds right
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Old 21-12-2016, 08:07
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On rereading this, my post is veey abrupt and rude. It's too late to delete or edit so please accept my apologies.
Nothing abrupt or rude about it at all, so therefore nothing to apologise for.
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Old 21-12-2016, 08:16
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She said it was because she was happy with Pete but she couldn't stand him by the time they divorced!
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Old 21-12-2016, 09:08
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Kathy married Pete becoming a Beale in 1968 at the age of 18 she didn't marry Phil until 1995 when she was 45 and became Kathy Mitchell. So she spent 27 years as Kathy Beale compared to only 18 years as Kathy Hills. Its no wonder that's the name she most identifies with not to mention its the surname of her son and his family. Also Kathy's childhood was very unhappy her parents were neglectful and abusive so she has no reason to want to honor them by reverting back to their name. Whereas Pete, although they divorced, was always a good man and treat Kathy well. Maybe if Pete was still alive and re-married it would have been weird for her to revert back to having his surname so long after their divorce - similarly if she went back to being Kathy Mitchell now despite her and Phil's estrangement. However with Pete having been dead for 25 years I think its more to do with her having the same name as Ian and his family rather than anything to do with Pete.
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