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Old 22-12-2016, 20:27
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Why was Stan so popular???..... I read he beat his kids and they had to go into care
Because it wasn't relevant to his 20 year character history later on. It probably doesn't even count.

Why do people like Roy Cropper when he was a stalker who scared Deirdre?
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Old 22-12-2016, 21:29
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Why was Stan so popular???..... I read he beat his kids and they had to go into care
What a digital Spy thing to say.

I watched through the seventies and as another poster said....Stan was never nasty

He didn't have it in him...
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Old 22-12-2016, 21:31
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What a digital Spy thing to say.

I watched through the seventies and as another poster said....Stan was never nasty

He didn't have it in him...
"Hilda and Stan had four children. Two children, Sylvia and Tony, were not seen on the series with the explanation that they were taken into care when Stan beat them while drunk."

Just quoting what I read
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:09
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"Hilda and Stan had four children. Two children, Sylvia and Tony, were not seen on the series with the explanation that they were taken into care when Stan beat them while drunk."

Just quoting what I read
So your basing your assumption on a man you've never watched about something which happened off screen over fifty years ago
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Old 23-12-2016, 09:53
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Why was Stan so popular???..... I read he beat his kids and they had to go into care
That was supposed to be his back story tbh it never rang true, Stan wasn't a man who would beat kids and I don't think Hilda would have let him if he had tried.
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Old 23-12-2016, 10:14
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Eddie Yeats, the lodger, was the bin-man, along with Curly and Chalky. Stan was a widow-cleaner.
which widow did he clean,.Emily?
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Old 23-12-2016, 10:23
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which widow did he clean,.Emily?
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Old 23-12-2016, 10:39
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So your basing your assumption on a man you've never watched about something which happened off screen over fifty years ago
Exactly.

Would like to see where the poster got his "source" from, and if it is even relevant to the show. Seeing how henpecked Stan is by Hilda (even in a black and white episode) it is hard to swallow.

But then again the poster has already made up his mind he knows the character well based off that paragraph over the character's proper 20 year history.
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Old 25-12-2016, 14:49
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Because it wasn't relevant to his 20 year character history later on. It probably doesn't even count.

Why do people like Roy Cropper when he was a stalker who scared Deirdre?
I remember reading an interview David (Roy) did and he said when he first appeared in Corrie he was a bit of a weirdo! lol

It was a funny thing about the two Ogden kids that were put into care, it's like it was their back story before they appeared on screen, but once they did, they sort of wiped out the back story and they only ever had Irma (real name Freda!) and Trevor. I mean there's a scene in 1976 when Hilda's feeling down and put upon by Stan's laziness, and she was talking about what he'd given her over the years, and she actually says 'Oh yeah, 2 kids, we mustn't forget them'
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Old 27-12-2016, 16:02
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Well worth watching IMO.
Jean was a good actor, as was her programme husband Bernard Youens. Very moving seeing his son and Jean's brother.
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Old 29-12-2016, 00:51
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Its happened so many times in soaps that characters are nasty to start with them quickly mellow. Tim in Corrie today (also a window-cleaner) wasn't a nice guy when he joined.

Jim Branning in EE probably the best example of this phenomenon. An actual racist when we first saw him; a lovely old man by the end
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Old 29-12-2016, 18:33
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Its happened so many times in soaps that characters are nasty to start with them quickly mellow. Tim in Corrie today (also a window-cleaner) wasn't a nice guy when he joined.

Jim Branning in EE probably the best example of this phenomenon. An actual racist when we first saw him; a lovely old man by the end
Billy in EE used to beat Jamie up and Minty he was like a slum landlord at the start then turned into a one of the lads any of them would have a drink with.
It seems to be one of soaps unwritten rules, no ones character can stay the same .

Stan used to beat Hllda up thats why their children were put into care. He wasnt a very nice man at the start then turned into a soap legend.
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Old 29-12-2016, 20:21
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Billy in EE used to beat Jamie up and Minty he was like a slum landlord at the start then turned into a one of the lads any of them would have a drink with.
It seems to be one of soaps unwritten rules, no ones character can stay the same .

Stan used to beat Hllda up thats why their children were put into care. He wasnt a very nice man at the start then turned into a soap legend.
I know Stan used to have rages, but don't remember that he beat up Hilda.

Interesting the connection between the Ogdens and the Barlows - Irma married David?


Apart from the above, I thought that the programme itself was very well done.
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Old 29-12-2016, 20:26
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Its happened so many times in soaps that characters are nasty to start with them quickly mellow. Tim in Corrie today (also a window-cleaner) wasn't a nice guy when he joined.
What did Tim do?
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Old 29-12-2016, 20:27
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I know Stan used to have rages, but don't remember that he beat up Hilda.

Interesting the connection between the Ogdens and the Barlows - Irma married David?


Apart from the above, I thought that the programme itself was very well done.
He never beat Hilda up. If anything, it looked like she would have been the one to beat him.
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Old 30-12-2016, 02:05
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Because it wasn't relevant to his 20 year character history later on. It probably doesn't even count.

Why do people like Roy Cropper when he was a stalker who scared Deirdre?
I don't think Roy ever stalked Deirdre - she was frightened, living in scary accommodation and presumed the worst about her "strange" neighbour. And we presumed the same with her. As it turned out, Roy was/is just eager to please and helpful - but a very good example of how we can get things very wrong by judging a book by its cover!
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