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I do wonder how these Chinese clubs are funded. The are certainly not able to pay those stupid wages based on gate receipts.
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How are they wasters? They are paid money to do a job and am awful lot more money then they can earn anywhere else
We are not talking about a few quid more we are talking considerable amount of money more, With Oscar not only are we talking massive figure wages wise it's likely to include a very large signing on fee and very large bonuses. Going to a a job to earn millions less is surely more of a waste? |
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Don't get me wrong, it is a job (I admire the openness of Assou-Ekotto and others who admit as such) and nice work if you can get it and good luck to them and all that, but say when Eden Hazard was announcing which club he was moving to that time - if he'd decided that instead of Chelsea or the other big cheese suitors he was going to Montreal Impact who were offering him untold riches would no part of you think he's wasting some of the best years of his career?
Its a job at the end of the day and you go where the money is. We are not talking about earning a small amount of more money where if that was the case I could see a case of it being a waste of time for example he is rumored to be currently earning 90k per week and they was offering 110k per week as he could realistically earn that sort of money in other clubs/leagues BUT we are talking about the sort of contract that no matter what he does as a player or what ever club he goes to he has next to no chance of earning anywhere near the level of money being offered. The contract is just too good to turn down no matter what the age unless you are Ronaldo or Messi |
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I understand in financial terms it's hard to turn down money being thrown down your neck and I admire the likes of Assou-Ekotto who happily admit that football is just a job that they're good at, but talking purely football terms he'd be the best player in a team filled with jabronis and a league stuffed to the gills with them. I couldn't begrudge anyone cashing in during a career that lasts fifteen years if you're relatively lucky, but at the same time they're wasting natural ability.
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I understand in financial terms it's hard to turn down money being thrown down your neck and I admire the likes of Assou-Ekotto who happily admit that football is just a job that they're good at, but talking purely football terms he'd be the best player in a team filled with jabronis and a league stuffed to the gills with them. I couldn't begrudge anyone cashing in during a career that lasts fifteen years if you're relatively lucky, but at the same time they're wasting natural ability.
He could be seen as wasting his talent or could be seen as an early adapter to what could be the next big market place in football, History will be the judge but either way this one contract means he has an awful lot more freedom for the rest of his career as just two seasons will set him up for life and will mean his future decisions can be based on other things more then financial |
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It could work out great for him of course, but from the emotive and traditional side of football I can't help but think such players are throwing years away. The logical side and the fact they're people supporting a lifestyle and family of course says otherwise, but that side's in the background for me with this.
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It could work out great for him of course, but from the emotive and traditional side of football I can't help but think such players are throwing years away. The logical side and the fact they're people supporting a lifestyle and family of course says otherwise, but that side's in the background for me with this.
I think we need to change our thinking when it comes to the emotive and traditional side of the game, Its not easy (I still get in a mood with changes for TV and insane away game fixtures) but I do think its something we has fans have to embrace come to terms with etc etc. With so many revenue streams stemming from football and more needed to keep up with the costs of maintaining a top team I think these are the sort of things that will come more and more common, China I think will become one of the most interesting things to watch over the next couple of years not just in terms of the game in the country but also how it effects the income of the clubs in other countries |
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The Premier League compares as a model, but China not having a real football history is the difference for me, like Qatar hosting a World Cup even if the bid had been fair and legit.
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The Premier League compares as a model, but China not having a real football history is the difference for me, like Qatar hosting a World Cup even if the bid had been fair and legit.
Its a new world and TV is making it smaller and smaller and places like China are a massive part of the small world. Think its just a natural progression from what the Premier League has created. The Premier League and how it has grown and the speed it has grown has meant that tradition etc has taken a back burner to everything else |
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I do wonder how these Chinese clubs are funded. The are certainly not able to pay those stupid wages based on gate receipts.
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If they have that much money why not sign players in their prime rather than has beens?
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If they have that much money why not sign players in their prime rather than has beens?
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Gael Kakuta's definitely not a has-been, he's a never-been.
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Well, I'm guessing with the lack of competition or competitiveness in the Chinese league, it might be easier to get the older players who don't mind winding down. They do have younger players like Alex Teixeira, but I imagine it being a harder sell to the younger players who'll want to test themselves in the better leagues. If they offered £600k a week to Messi, I'm guessing he'd rather stay at Barcelona for now while his body can still handle it and he still enjoys playing football at the highest level.
It might also be harder from an international POV if you're playing in China at its current standard. Older players don't have to worry about that. |
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Well, I'm guessing with the lack of competition or competitiveness in the Chinese league, it might be easier to get the older players who don't mind winding down. They do have younger players like Alex Teixeira, but I imagine it being a harder sell to the younger players who'll want to test themselves in the better leagues. If they offered £600k a week to Messi, I'm guessing he'd rather stay at Barcelona for now while his body can still handle it and he still enjoys playing football at the highest level.
It might also be harder from an international POV if you're playing in China at its current standard. Older players don't have to worry about that. As we have seen, it isn't just the older players moving there now, players in their peak, and those still to reach it, are moving over there now, so I do think in the next couple of years, we might be seeing a somewhat shift in player movements, and players might be actually wanting to move over there Internally it will be interesting, as just like with say the case Giovinco in Toronto in MLS, it might be that no matter how well you do in the Chinese league, how people see the league might be held against the player. |
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As we have seen, it isn't just the older players moving there now, players in their peak, and those still to reach it, are moving over there now
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We haven't really seen that yet. From the players you mentioned most are in their 30s and there's only Oscar and to a much lesser extent Gervinho who could be considered as star players in their peak. Oscar could set a precedent, but we're not seeing a trend yet.
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Teixera's talented but is one of approximately three Brazilian players on the planet not to have been capped by the national team and Kakuta's already halfway through a career that promised so much but has only just passed the 100-game mark, most of them being on loan to various clubs. Kakuta in particular enjoyed his peak when he was touted as the next big thing and before reality kicked in.
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Teixera's talented but is one of approximately three Brazilian players on the planet not to have been capped by the national team and Kakuta's already halfway through a career that promised so much but has only just passed the 100-game mark, most of them being on loan to various clubs. Kakuta in particular enjoyed his peak when he was touted as the next big thing and before reality kicked in.
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Oscar wont last a year there.
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Oscar wont last a year there.
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Just when you thought PL wages were ridiculous.
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Perhaps the most astounding thing about the figures being banded about is that Chelsea are going to get £60m for Oscar.
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I do wonder how these Chinese clubs are funded. The are certainly not able to pay those stupid wages based on gate receipts.
This article explains it fairly well: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...er-League.html BTW I think the Chinese presidents aims are laudable, but it's going to backfire. The more class players they import, the more the development of the native Chinese players will be stunted. There is a huge gulf in class at the moment and the fans will become even more demanding for quality performers. I don't think they'll have the patience to wait for their very own Messi to develop. Quote:
Perhaps the most astounding thing about the figures being banded about is that Chelsea are going to get £60m for Oscar.
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Then he would have earned an awful lot of money and will sign for a club still earning very good wages
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