Some years ago, i was inside london Euston station concourse, and without warning armed police carrying machine guns ran through it, shouting ''get out get out get out .......'' Which everyone did, pronto. You could, in those days. But now, the whole area is full of shops, with only 3 or 4 very narrow doors in and out .......
Britain on high alert..
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my first real job was in woolworths, we used to get evacuated at least twice a week for a bomb threat.
we used to have to herd the shoppers out and then go back, take the till drawers out and take them upstairs to the office before we [the staff] left the building.
they changed that rule about two weeks later when we all revolted and left with the customers.
we used to have to herd the shoppers out and then go back, take the till drawers out and take them upstairs to the office before we [the staff] left the building.
they changed that rule about two weeks later when we all revolted and left with the customers.
Anyone who gets neurotic about a potential terrorist attack happening should (and probably does) stay indoors.
Originally Posted by Creamtea:
“Anyone who gets neurotic about a potential terrorist attack happening should (and probably does) stay indoors.”
“Anyone who gets neurotic about a potential terrorist attack happening should (and probably does) stay indoors.”
I do get the distinct impression quite a few people here have a long list of reasons why they won't go outside, ever.
The usual panic and overreaction
Nothings going to happen and if it does, its out of your control
Just get on with life
Nothings going to happen and if it does, its out of your control
Just get on with life
Originally Posted by DomJolly:
“The usual panic and overreaction
Nothings going to happen and if it does, its out of your control
Just get on with life”
“The usual panic and overreaction
Nothings going to happen and if it does, its out of your control
Just get on with life”
I think most people do just get on with life. That doesn't mean there isn't an ongoing threat though, because there is.
One small piece of solace, overall this country is second to none at stopping atrocities. If you fancy going to massive street parties, here is as safe as anywhere.
Originally Posted by Deep Purple:
“I think most people do just get on with life. That doesn't mean there isn't an ongoing threat though, because there is.”
“I think most people do just get on with life. That doesn't mean there isn't an ongoing threat though, because there is.”
The threat is very small and the chances of you being affected by it is even smaller
Like i said, its out of our control.
The authorities are doing a good job
Originally Posted by DomJolly:
“The threat is very small and the chances of you being affected by it is even smaller
Like i said, its out of our control.
The authorities are doing a good job”
“The threat is very small and the chances of you being affected by it is even smaller
Like i said, its out of our control.
The authorities are doing a good job”
Statistically speaking the chances of being struck by lightening are minuscule.
I invite you to stand on a hill holding a golf iron over your head during the first winter thunder storm, just to test that theory
I remember a lot of bomb threats during the 80s and 90s, I would say the risks or certainly for me the fear of the threat was higher then. Or maybe Ive just got older.
Read several online news outlets, whilst rolling my eyes. They were practically giving out ideas of the busiest hotspots etc etc.
Praying it doesn't happen...ever.
Praying it doesn't happen...ever.
We had bomb threats at my school, it was a boarding school with lots of forces children. My Dad had to check under his car before every use just in case there was a bomb. I remember we recieved an unexpected parcel and were quite concerned at the time. I remember all the bins being removed from stations and streets. After living through the 80's and 90's when the IRA were at their height and being a forces child I can't get over excited about the threat being severe now.
Originally Posted by elliecat:
“We had bomb threats at my school, it was a boarding school with lots of forces children. My Dad had to check under his car before every use just in case there was a bomb. I remember we recieved an unexpected parcel and were quite concerned at the time. I remember all the bins being removed from stations and streets. After living through the 80's and 90's when the IRA were at their height and being a forces child I can't get over excited about the threat being severe now.”
“We had bomb threats at my school, it was a boarding school with lots of forces children. My Dad had to check under his car before every use just in case there was a bomb. I remember we recieved an unexpected parcel and were quite concerned at the time. I remember all the bins being removed from stations and streets. After living through the 80's and 90's when the IRA were at their height and being a forces child I can't get over excited about the threat being severe now.”
Likewise. I'm married to someone in the armed forces too so the 'risk' is still there.
People need to carry on as usual, but just stay aware of their surroundings at all times.
Originally Posted by BasilRathbon:
“Do you really believe that propaganda? If, as the security services claim, they've foiled at least 10 attacks in the past two years, perhaps they could tell us more? As in who was going to carry out the attacks, where they were going to take place, how they would have happened? Anyone can quote an arbitrary figure, only the gullible would believe it without evidence.”
“Do you really believe that propaganda? If, as the security services claim, they've foiled at least 10 attacks in the past two years, perhaps they could tell us more? As in who was going to carry out the attacks, where they were going to take place, how they would have happened? Anyone can quote an arbitrary figure, only the gullible would believe it without evidence.”
I assume that you are unable to access news sources where details are freely available regarding convictions for failed attacks?
Or do you believe that these are all faked in order to keep us all quaking in our boots about an imaginary terror?
Originally Posted by TerraCanis:
“It's a five point scale. Think of them as Levels 1 -5 in ascending order of threat. If you bear in mind that Level 5 corresponds to specific intelligence that an attack is imminent, then although Level 5 is the highest defined level of threat, it becomes the de facto highest level for the rest of the time. If you overuse that level, then it's likely to breed complacency as people come to accept it as the "normal" state of affairs.”
“It's a five point scale. Think of them as Levels 1 -5 in ascending order of threat. If you bear in mind that Level 5 corresponds to specific intelligence that an attack is imminent, then although Level 5 is the highest defined level of threat, it becomes the de facto highest level for the rest of the time. If you overuse that level, then it's likely to breed complacency as people come to accept it as the "normal" state of affairs.”
I know it's a five point scale.
From an earlier link
Quote:
“The counter-terrorism network and security services have successfully foiled at least 10 attacks in the last two years, with 294 convictions for terror-related offences.””
“The counter-terrorism network and security services have successfully foiled at least 10 attacks in the last two years, with 294 convictions for terror-related offences.””
It's understandable that the threat level is severe.
Originally Posted by tiacat:
“I remember a lot of bomb threats during the 80s and 90s, I would say the risks or certainly for me the fear of the threat was higher then. Or maybe Ive just got older.”
“I remember a lot of bomb threats during the 80s and 90s, I would say the risks or certainly for me the fear of the threat was higher then. Or maybe Ive just got older.”
Yes it was for me because there were several attacks and deaths and NI is part of the UK. Remember fear of letter bombs? I think comfort mainly comes from the fact that our security services learnt a lot from those years and are the best in Europe.
Originally Posted by TerraCanis:
“The problem there is that if you've been on the maximum level of alert for years-decades, what do you do if you need to increase the alert level?”
“The problem there is that if you've been on the maximum level of alert for years-decades, what do you do if you need to increase the alert level?”
Turn it up to 11?
Originally Posted by BasilRathbon:
“Do you really believe that propaganda? If, as the security services claim, they've foiled at least 10 attacks in the past two years, perhaps they could tell us more? As in who was going to carry out the attacks, where they were going to take place, how they would have happened? Anyone can quote an arbitrary figure, only the gullible would believe it without evidence.”
“Do you really believe that propaganda? If, as the security services claim, they've foiled at least 10 attacks in the past two years, perhaps they could tell us more? As in who was going to carry out the attacks, where they were going to take place, how they would have happened? Anyone can quote an arbitrary figure, only the gullible would believe it without evidence.”
lol the security service must wonder why they bother when they read stuff like this.
Originally Posted by Caxton:
“Unfortunately an attack takes very little organising, a gun and a lorry is all that is needed, the lorries are there for the picking in laybys and lorry parks. It appears from what has been disclosed that the latest Berlin incident was done in a similar way.
The huge carnage that can be committed not just by picking a market but any busy high street or even a busy motorway. The markets and fairs can be protected to some degree but other places are far more difficult or even impossible to protect in any significant way.
Sad to say, anyone determined to inflict carnage in a big way really would not find it too difficult to do so.”
“Unfortunately an attack takes very little organising, a gun and a lorry is all that is needed, the lorries are there for the picking in laybys and lorry parks. It appears from what has been disclosed that the latest Berlin incident was done in a similar way.
The huge carnage that can be committed not just by picking a market but any busy high street or even a busy motorway. The markets and fairs can be protected to some degree but other places are far more difficult or even impossible to protect in any significant way.
Sad to say, anyone determined to inflict carnage in a big way really would not find it too difficult to do so.”
I'm so glad it hasn't happened but god forbid they get hold of a petrol or gas tanker.
When you see all these tankers on the road and I never thought of it until recently you become so aware of all the Calor gas tankers around your neighborhood, towns and cities.
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