That is too wide a statement to be useful. It is like saying Christianity frowns on murder. Whilst it is true, there are so many exceptions which vary in so many different sects that it is clearly not an absolute. The attitude to murder of a Quaker is clearly very different to that in Catholicism, or Jim Jones and yet they are all Christian.

Clearly the attitude to suicide killings, and sacrifice differs between the ISIS, Islamists, mainstream sunni and sufi. But they are all still clearly Muslim despite the denials of some.

So when someone says that's not Islamic it comes across as dishonest to many - since there are people clearly doing it in the name of Islam. It's more honest to say the Islam I believe in, or I grew up with etc doesn't believe that that is right than Muslims as a whole don't believe in X or Y.

There was the report of it happening at the time, they didn't exaggerate the damage inflicted, and then the parents made a video - of the preparation of the children because they really are sick enough to think that releasing a video of them preparing to murder their children is a good and inspiring thing. Of course we can't go and interview them or independently verify it but I think in propaganda terms this is too unbelievable for anyone to fake. It seems like a coherent story just so sick that it is difficult to believe that people are that far gone. But there are very very evil people in this world.

That is the Christian definition of a martyr which certainly does differ from the Islamic one. In the Islamic dictionary you seem to have people who decide on mass murder referring to themselves as martyrs which makes absolutely no sense in standard English. Clearly they aren't a martyr they are a suicide-killer. But clearly under some theology they define themselves as such.

However as a secular term it can be used when the person does have an intention to die, if and only if they die in order to save others. So we had the situation with the Airline when passengers deliberately crashed it to avoid it being used as a weapon against others. They were colloquially referred to as martyrs though obviously not religious ones and I don't think that was incorrect. In that sense a martyr is someone who gives up their life to save others.

I disagree on all counts.

I did have a Google around, before I posted (and accidentally stumbled on un-blurred body parts, , in a wrecked room/building)

But we know that half of Damascus and most of Aleppo looks like Stalingrad and people are killed daily, including children.

ie It's a Ready made 'film set'. It's not impossible that this is a fake to discredit the 'Terrorist Monsters'.


It just has the ring of Babies being Bayoneted in Incubators to me.

Just to answer a few on here who quoted what I said earlier.
I'm a Muslim, born and bred proud Lancastrian. If I speak about Islam, I have a darn sight more knowledge than you do, so please refrain from the patronising comments. I've had 30 years experience of it, and if I say that what these perpetrators do in the name of Islam is wholly offensive to most if the Islamic world, then I'm not lying.
Of course most terrorist these days bleat that they are doing it in the name of Islam. However, most would argue they're doing a whole lot of damage to Islam itself...alot more damage than "evil West".
Nearly a third of the world are Muslims, it's the fastest growing religion in the world. If every Muslim was a terrorist at heart, this planet would be a mound of ash.

Yes, a martyr is someone killed for their religion or in the path of fighting for their religion.
Although, a woman who dies giving birth/pregnant or whilst she's menstruating, is also considered a martyr.
Going on a killing spree, whilst killing innocent folk is considered murder. Any death of an innocent isn't going to get a you VIP pass into heaven.

I believe you, but a lot of people are short sighted and believe everything they read in the bias media.

The joke is that people blame Islam, when Islam isn't responsible. Acts of similar barbaric nature have been undertaken throughout our history, some of which has been in the name of Christianity etc. Islam is not at fault here, the sadistic pricks forcing others to blow themselves up and kill innocents are the ones to blame.

Indeed. It's also not a new phenomenon - groups in many countries have used children (Sierra Leone coming to my mind first) to do their dirty work, fight for them, kill for them, die for them.

Yes and during Vietnam it was an oft used method.

Thats not just restricted to religious fanatics, the same applies to politicians as I never noticed Blair, Cameron or any of the MP's calling for military action in the Middle-East or Afganistan being prepared to go there and fight themeselves rather than sending some other poor sod to do their dirty work.

And there you have it. The Western media, as far as I can make out, has been, at best, guilty of the worst kind of gullibility, and at worst just outright lying about the situation in Syria.

The atrocities performed by the Russsians, the civilian executions performed by the Syrian government, the heroics of the 'white helmets'. As far as I can make out it is all unsubstantiated and untrue.

What seems to be the case is that while fighting IS elsewhere, the West has funded and supported other Jihadis in Aleppo in support of regime change. It simply does not suit the Western agenda to report on atrocities committed by the 'moderate' rebels we are supporting.

I just don't know where to get unbiased news anymore.