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Queen Unwell
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eggchen
01-01-2017
I think this is it for her tbh
Ian...B
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by thirstyelephant:
“At 90 fighting colds isnt easy and can be deadly. She has obviously been advised to rest at home. If it was anything more serious they would have her in the Royal hospital.”

I know everyone is different, but Phillip had the same "Heavy cold" and he recovered in a couple of days and was at the Christmas day service.
GiraffeGirl
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“Or just an elderly lady unable to throw off a cough and cold as easily as she used to. It really can knock an elderly person down to have a simple upper respiratory infection it's why we are encouraged to have flu jabs, colds and flu can be worse for an older person.”

Plus if she's got the cough my dad currently has (similar age), it would be highly annoying for everybody if she had a fit of coughing like he keeps having. Also very embarrassing for her (or anyone - that awful moment when you try to suppress a cough and it just gets worse and worse )
mumbles26
01-01-2017
On the face of it, it does sound worrying but I agree with Thirsty, if it was anything more sinister, she'd would be in hospital.
duckylucky
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Ian...B:
“I know everyone is different, but Phillip had the same "Heavy cold" and he recovered in a couple of days and was at the Christmas day service.”

I had the same heavy cold as my husband . I recovered , he got a sinus infection and is still not well . Everyone is different as you say .
Ian...B
01-01-2017
Nothing to worry about, apparently she's up and about doing her normal daily duties
Fairyprincess0
01-01-2017
The queens not dead. Shes resting....

The germanic blue prefers kipping on its back. Lovely plummage. I expect shes just pining for the fjords....

Ect, ect, ect....
Blofeld
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by mumbles26:
“On the face of it, it does sound worrying but I agree with Thirsty, if it was anything more sinister, she'd would be in hospital.”

Maybe she is. Maybe she is getting special treatment at home. The palace never realised full details in these cases. Anyway. What is a heavy cold? A cold lasts afew days at most and someone getting the treatment she would get would not be housebound for 10 days due to a cold. If it's, a chest infection, pneumonia, sinus infection or whatever then just tell the public, but don't dumb it down and try and sugar coat it by saying she has had a cold for nearly 2 weeks. It's that kind of twee, pretending everything is fine mentality that annoys people.
stargazer61
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Ian...B:
“I know everyone is different, but Phillip had the same "Heavy cold" and he recovered in a couple of days and was at the Christmas day service.”

Exactly! Everyone is different! Some people get a heavy cold and are fine after a couple of days. In other people, it can develop into a chest infection or sinus infection, which can be more serious and difficult to shift. Add a poor immune system, which is normal in the elderly, and recovery can take much longer.
Inspiration
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Exactly! Everyone is different! Some people get a heavy cold and are fine after a couple of days. In other people, it can develop into a chest infection or sinus infection, which can be more serious and difficult to shift. Add a poor immune system, which is normal in the elderly, and recovery can take much longer.”

And if that's the case.. why not just say so? "The Queen's cold has developed into a chest infection and she has been advised to remain indoors and rest at this time" rather than this "heavy cold" line that's now 12 days old. And let's not forget she's not delaying a trip to Australia here.. she's missing a short walk to a church followed by an hour sat in said church.. something she prides herself on doing every year at this time. She's effectively not been able to leave the house for 12 days if we consider her not being able to use the train as the same as not being able to attend church. That must be one hell of a heavy cold.
pork.pie
01-01-2017
Some people just seem pissed that she wasn't added to the 2016 list. Diddums.
Blofeld
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“And if that's the case.. why not just say so? "The Queen's cold has developed into a chest infection and she has been advised to remain indoors and rest at this time" rather than this "heavy cold" line that's now 12 days old. And let's not forget she's not delaying a trip to Australia here.. she's missing a short walk to a church followed by an hour sat in said church.. something she prides herself on doing every year at this time. She's effectively not been able to leave the house for 12 days if we consider her not being able to use the train as the same as not being able to attend church. That must be one hell of a heavy cold.”

Exactly. People seem to just gleefully accept that evening is fine, it's just a cold. It's obviously not. A 90 year old woman with a cold can attend church. My 90+ year old relatives are not as pampered as the queen and still manage to get around when they have the sniffles. Yes everyone is different, but not that different. The cold virus doesn't linger for 2 weeks, it pretty swiftly dies out itself. If her immune system cannot fight off a cold then they is something else seriously wrong but they aren't telling us. Even the famously royalist papers like the mail and express are very quiet on it..They would normally splash this stuff all over the front page, so perhaps there is a big press black out regarding her true health.
Mark.
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Babe Rainbow:
“I would have thought so too. But that would mean he got demoted on the day he got married. Prince Edward will inherit DoE when Phiip goes so it must be a promotion. And senior title will always prevail so he they wouldn't be referred to as D & D formally if P & P were higher rank.”

William's formal title is Prince William, Duke of Cambridge (plus several subsidiary titles); similarly, Edward is currently Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex and will be Prince Edward, Duke of Edinburgh.

The title "Prince" on its own simply denotes that the person is a descendent of a monarch. The associated territorial designation comes from their father's most senior title if the relation to the current or apart monarch is paternal, e.g. Prince Michael of Kent was the son of the Duke of Kent, who was the son of George V.

Dukedomes are usually conferred on marriage to allow the new wife to have a title. Had William not been made Duke of Cambridge, Kate would have been officially styled as HRH Princess Catherine of Wales, the wife of HRH Prince William of Wales, who in turn is the son of the Prince of Wales. Still with me?

Anyway, giving a dukedom to a soon-to-be-wed ensures the new wife sort of has a title of her own - Duchess of Wherever.

The in exception is Wales. It's the only Principality and therefore is the only territory whose ruler is a Prince not a Duke (or Earl or whatever). And while it is not automatic, when the heir apparent is male (actually, the heir apparent has thus far always been male but let's not go there) they have almost always been given Wales to govern. How fun for them.

Long story short - should Charles ascend to the throne, he will almost certainly appoint William Prince of Wales. Which trumps all other titles, making him: HRH The Prince of Wales (plus other subsidiary titles, including Cambridge). Kate becomes HRH The Princess of Wales; the kids become HRH Prince George of Wales and HRH Princess Charlotte of Wales.

Harry loses his "of Wales", but will likely get a dukedom of his own, as a younger son of the monarch, if he's not already married.

Simple, really!
Blofeld
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by pork.pie:
“Some people just seem pissed that she wasn't added to the 2016 list. Diddums.”

Question the queens health and all of a sudden you want her dead?

Just shows how brainwashed some people are into blindly fawning over her.
Miss XYZ
01-01-2017
She's 90 years old so of course a heavy cold can hit her harder than it would if she were much younger. That said, I do think she's looked quite frail for a while, she's seemed quite hunched, more so than she used to, but she's looked amazing for years so her age was always gonna catch up with her at some point. I should think she'll still be around for a while yet. But on the other hand it wouldn't surprise me if there was a security threat we haven't been told about, and that's the real reason she's lying low.

Originally Posted by Blofeld:
“She doesn't do any of that, certainly not a hard day at the office. What is hard about putting her signature on things exactly? Does she have staff meetings? Talk about redundancies? Deny people their annual leave? Tell them they are getting a pay cut? What is her daily office routine? When does the Queen do presentations? When did she have to sit up all night making a power point? She hardly ever travels these days, she receives most guests at the Palace. How often does she have these business dinners? Again, these are in the palace as well.

You have summed up a couple of months worth of duties and made it sound like her daily job.

I'm sorry I just don't see this hard work she does.”

Here's an article from September 2015 which details what the Queen does each day.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-10492992.html
TerraCanis
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Exactly! Everyone is different! Some people get a heavy cold and are fine after a couple of days. In other people, it can develop into a chest infection or sinus infection, which can be more serious and difficult to shift. Add a poor immune system, which is normal in the elderly, and recovery can take much longer.”

I've had colds that have gone into the sinuses, leaving me feeling fine in myself but subject to either explosive sneezing or a streaming nose at the most inconvenient moments. Not really a problem for me, but if the world's press were following me around with a few dozen cameras shoved up my left nostril even when all was normal, I'd be very wary about the kind of pictures they might get.
Miss XYZ
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Surely it's the other way round? Prince/Princess is a higher rank than Duke/Duchess.”

I'd much rather be a Princess than a Duchess. But maybe that's just me being girlie.
pork.pie
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Blofeld:
“Question the queens health and all of a sudden you want her dead?

Just shows how brainwashed some people are into blindly fawning over her.”

Oh, yes, I've always loved the Queen, me. I have a fine collection of plates, mugs, jugs and sex toys with her face on them. I just can't get enough of her, may she live forever and fill my life full of flowers and bacon. I've never once wished she'd stand aside and give her flappy son a crack at sitting on the royal pot. I'm royal frough and frough, me. Long live the Queen, and all that lick her royal elbow. On the other hand... I think you got that quite wrong.
pie-eyed
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“And if that's the case.. why not just say so? "The Queen's cold has developed into a chest infection and she has been advised to remain indoors and rest at this time" rather than this "heavy cold" line that's now 12 days old. And let's not forget she's not delaying a trip to Australia here.. she's missing a short walk to a church followed by an hour sat in said church.. something she prides herself on doing every year at this time. She's effectively not been able to leave the house for 12 days if we consider her not being able to use the train as the same as not being able to attend church. That must be one hell of a heavy cold.”

Why should every detail be announced? If she has been ill with a cold and is in recovery surely no other detail is necessary. Minute by minute progress reports are not relevant. She will either be out and about in due course or some other news will come about. Every cough and sneeze doesnt need reporting.
blueblade
01-01-2017
It's been over a week now. I do think it may be a little more serious than is being let on.
wizzywick
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Blofeld:
“Maybe she is. Maybe she is getting special treatment at home. The palace never realised full details in these cases. Anyway. What is a heavy cold? A cold lasts afew days at most and someone getting the treatment she would get would not be housebound for 10 days due to a cold. If it's, a chest infection, pneumonia, sinus infection or whatever then just tell the public, but don't dumb it down and try and sugar coat it by saying she has had a cold for nearly 2 weeks. It's that kind of twee, pretending everything is fine mentality that annoys people.”

I agree with you, but I would add, that I have had a heavy cold for two weeks, feel crap but going to work, and I'm only 48.
LostFool
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“I hope he will be Charles III and not George VII.

We all know him as Charles after all, so to change name as King would seem absurd.”

Many monarchs changed their name so it wouldn't be absurd by historical standards. George VI was Albert, Victoria was Alexandrina. It has long been expected that Charles would reign as a George. The Charles kings haven't had the best of records.
molliepops
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“It's been over a week now. I do think it may be a little more serious than is being let on.”

It could just be by now a bad cough, they can linger and we won't be seeing the dignified lady that she is hacking and coughing, she just won't allow herself to be seen that way.
bryemycaz
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“It could just be by now a bad cough, they can linger and we won't be seeing the dignified lady that she is hacking and coughing, she just won't allow herself to be seen that way.”

Exactly and here in King's Lynn this morning it has been chucking it down with Rain. Not exactly the weather to be walking to church in. If you are not well with a bad cold, yes she would have been drove to church but she would still have to walk some of the way.
Pitman
01-01-2017
this is getting stupid now, just die or admit you are not ill and you are just teasing Charlie
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