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Old 01-01-2017, 16:14
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Could have said both Lawler and Lizzy removed from their position.
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:32
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I have just had a call from liz shes feeling better now
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:31
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No soaps on TV sounds great - and I haven't cared about who was in the charts since I was about 16.
That and no reality tv will be the good side of her demise
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:42
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And I'm not sure why people are pretending it's still just a cold. I'm sorry but I've never know "just a cold" to keep someone down for 12 days and that's only since she didn't go on the train journey, so it must have been with her for a few days previous to that. If she has had "just a cold" for over two weeks now when most people, even in their 90s can shake it off in about a week at most, then there is something else wrong that is affecting her ability to heal from "just a cold". She has been kept indoors and is resting, presumably she is on all kinds of cold medication and has been for some days now, she has the perfect healing environment for much longer than is needed...but isn't healing. That's not right. It's not "just a cold"

I don't really care for rolling news about every sneeze as some people put it, but it's the lies and secrecy surrounding it all that's stupid. If they can't pluck up the courage to tell the nation she is more than just a little bit poorly then what the hell is going to happen when she does die?
What lies and secrecy? There's really no reason to think that she is more than 'just a little bit poorly'.

Would you prefer it if they invented a serious illness even though she's actually perfectly OK except for a persistent but relatively minor illness which many people in this discussion have said they've had themselves and that it took some time to get over?
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:48
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I don't really think she is imminently on the way out but I do think this maybe puts paid to the idea that she could surpass her mother's longevity
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:50
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What lies and secrecy? There's really no reason to think that she is more than 'just a little bit poorly'.

Would you prefer it if they invented a serious illness even though she's actually perfectly OK except for a persistent but relatively minor illness which many people in this discussion have said they've had themselves and that it took some time to get over?
No, I just want the media to admit what is actually wrong with her, not dress it up like we live in some child's book. No one here has said they have had a cold for now going on for more than 2 weeks. People have said they have had a cough or an infection following a cold, but the cold virus simply doesn't stick around for 2 weeks, especially in someone who is resting and not doing anything to exacerbate her condition. I have relatives who are 90+ and they get sick, but have never been bed bound for 2 weeks with the cold, it simply isn't a cold, why are we pretending it is?

Prince Philip is ore or less hanging by a thread and yet he was over this "cold" in a few days, but The Queen who is in much better health is somehow unable to shake it after 2 weeks? I'm sorry I don't buy it.
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:52
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I don't really think she is imminently on the way out but I do think this maybe puts paid to the idea that she could surpass her mother's longevity
Her mother had colds from time to time too.
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:54
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Sorry if this has been asked but - public holiday for funeral and/or subsequent coronation?
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:56
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No, I just want the media to admit what is actually wrong with her, not dress it up like we live in some child's book. No one here has said they have had a cold for now going on for more than 2 weeks. People have said they have had a cough or an infection following a cold, but the cold virus simply doesn't stick around for 2 weeks, especially in someone who is resting and not doing anything to exacerbate her condition. I have relatives who are 90+ and they get sick, but have never been bed bound for 2 weeks with the cold, it simply isn't a cold, why are we pretending it is?

Prince Philip is ore or less hanging by a thread and yet he was over this "cold" in a few days, but The Queen who is in much better health is somehow unable to shake it after 2 weeks? I'm sorry I don't buy it.
Ha ha, Prince Philip hanging on by a thread! He walks without any aid like he's a couple of decades younger than he actually is. He seems pretty with it mentally as well. You'd be hard pushed to find many 95 year old men in better shape.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:05
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but The Queen who is in much better health is somehow unable to shake it after 2 weeks? I'm sorry I don't buy it.
Agree with everything you said. To have her actually disappear from sight for this long is just so suspect. If it's a chest infection/whatever why not just say it? I still wonder if there is some security issue - starting from when they were whisked to Sandringham by helicopter.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:10
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Sorry if this has been asked but - public holiday for funeral and/or subsequent coronation?
I expect both would be. Though apparently an actual coronation is not essential.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:12
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I have relatives who are 90+ and they get sick, but have never been bed bound for 2 weeks with the cold, it simply isn't a cold, why are we pretending it is?
They've specifically said that she isn't "bed bound", she's up and about, even working, but not well enough for public engagements.

I still wonder if there is some security issue - starting from when they were whisked to Sandringham by helicopter.
A security issue which doesn't prevent the rest of the family from appearing together in public?
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:12
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Agree with everything you said. To have her actually disappear from sight for this long is just so suspect. If it's a chest infection/whatever why not just say it? I still wonder if there is some security issue - starting from when they were whisked to Sandringham by helicopter.
I think that if it was a chest infection or whatever, they would say. Why wouldn't they? The failing health of George V wasn't kept a secret (remember the statement 'The King's life is moving peacefully towards its close') and whilst the actual death of George VI was sudden, it was not a secret at all that his health had been poor for some considerable time.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:19
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No, I just want the media to admit what is actually wrong with her, not dress it up like we live in some child's book. No one here has said they have had a cold for now going on for more than 2 weeks. People have said they have had a cough or an infection following a cold, but the cold virus simply doesn't stick around for 2 weeks, especially in someone who is resting and not doing anything to exacerbate her condition. I have relatives who are 90+ and they get sick, but have never been bed bound for 2 weeks with the cold, it simply isn't a cold, why are we pretending it is?
Who is saying that she is bed bound?

She may have the type of heavy cold that then leads to a hacking cough and coughing fits. I, unfortunately, end up with coughing fits every time I have a cold. As a result, I often have to cancel my public appearances (teaching), as appearing to be dying from coughing in the middle of a lecture or class is not a good look.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:51
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No, I just want the media to admit what is actually wrong with her, not dress it up like we live in some child's book. No one here has said they have had a cold for now going on for more than 2 weeks. People have said they have had a cough or an infection following a cold, but the cold virus simply doesn't stick around for 2 weeks, especially in someone who is resting and not doing anything to exacerbate her condition. I have relatives who are 90+ and they get sick, but have never been bed bound for 2 weeks with the cold, it simply isn't a cold, why are we pretending it is?

Prince Philip is ore or less hanging by a thread and yet he was over this "cold" in a few days, but The Queen who is in much better health is somehow unable to shake it after 2 weeks? I'm sorry I don't buy it.
Who is saying that she is bed bound?

She may have the type of heavy cold that then leads to a hacking cough and coughing fits. I, unfortunately, end up with coughing fits every time I have a cold. As a result, I often have to cancel my public appearances (teaching), as appearing to be dying from coughing in the middle of a lecture or class is not a good look.
Indeed not a good look for anyone especially someone as dignified as the queen.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:56
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No, I just want the media to admit what is actually wrong with her, not dress it up like we live in some child's book. No one here has said they have had a cold for now going on for more than 2 weeks. People have said they have had a cough or an infection following a cold, but the cold virus simply doesn't stick around for 2 weeks, especially in someone who is resting and not doing anything to exacerbate her condition. I have relatives who are 90+ and they get sick, but have never been bed bound for 2 weeks with the cold, it simply isn't a cold, why are we pretending it is?

Prince Philip is ore or less hanging by a thread and yet he was over this "cold" in a few days, but The Queen who is in much better health is somehow unable to shake it after 2 weeks? I'm sorry I don't buy it.
I don't think it's even been said that she is "bed bound". Just that she's not up to going out and sitting in church. Why should there be any lying about my that. We don't know either whether or not she is resting or busy doing other things. Why look for drama when there is no need. Some people are desperate for what's to come when the queen dies. Just horrible.
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Old 01-01-2017, 19:13
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No, I just want the media to admit what is actually wrong with her, not dress it up like we live in some child's book. No one here has said they have had a cold for now going on for more than 2 weeks. People have said they have had a cough or an infection following a cold, but the cold virus simply doesn't stick around for 2 weeks, especially in someone who is resting and not doing anything to exacerbate her condition. I have relatives who are 90+ and they get sick, but have never been bed bound for 2 weeks with the cold, it simply isn't a cold, why are we pretending it is?

Prince Philip is ore or less hanging by a thread and yet he was over this "cold" in a few days, but The Queen who is in much better health is somehow unable to shake it after 2 weeks? I'm sorry I don't buy it.
This thread and this post is utterly ridiculous, why can't she have a couple of weeks off? As soon as she appears again everyone is going to be scrutinising her for her imminent demise. I don't blame her for staying indoors.
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Old 01-01-2017, 19:17
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All I would say is that the longer she is out of sight, the more suspicion is raised that things may not be OK. That's not saying she's dying, indeed she may be getting much better as we speak, but just something to keep an eye on as the days pass.
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Old 01-01-2017, 19:34
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All I would say is that the longer she is out of sight, the more suspicion is raised that things may not be OK. That's not saying she's dying, indeed she may be getting much better as we speak, but just something to keep an eye on as the days pass.
Do you normally see her daily ? It can be weeks months at a time before I catch sight. If this thread and the media were ton about it I doubt my of us would have realised she is missing.
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Old 01-01-2017, 19:36
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A security issue which doesn't prevent the rest of the family from appearing together in public?
Fair point. Unless a threat has been directed specifically at the Queen. Even if there is a threat against the whole family, she is the one who will be most protected.
She is known to take the events she has missed very seriously. So all I am saying is either this has to be more than a heavy cold - yes even at her age - or there is something else going on.
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Old 01-01-2017, 19:37
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I bet you we see her in public tomorrow

God save the Queen

Mum and dad are great fans of HM and her family.

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Old 01-01-2017, 19:55
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Who is saying that she is bed bound?

She may have the type of heavy cold that then leads to a hacking cough and coughing fits. I, unfortunately, end up with coughing fits every time I have a cold. As a result, I often have to cancel my public appearances (teaching), as appearing to be dying from coughing in the middle of a lecture or class is not a good look.
Exactly when my dad had a heavy cold one winter. It became Bronchitis and he avoided going out in the cold. As everytime he went out he started a coughing fit as soon as he went indoors when the temperature changed. Also he was in his 60s then not his 90s. He caught the cold in December and it was nearly February before he finally shifted it.
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Old 01-01-2017, 19:56
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Do you normally see her daily ? It can be weeks months at a time before I catch sight. If this thread and the media were ton about it I doubt my of us would have realised she is missing.
I'm sure you have the intelligence to realise what I mean. Hopefully so anyway.
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Old 01-01-2017, 20:17
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This is not the soviet union circa 1955, if the Palace say the Queen is too unwell for public appearances then that's how it is.
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Old 01-01-2017, 20:42
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If she's not dead or dying, I think they'll make a point of getting her on show as soon as possible to stop the rumours.
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