Copeland by-election

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Annsyre

23-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dingbat:
“They'll blame Jamie Reed, both for resigning and for being a "Blairite red Tory" who undermined their campaign.

Although it does also mean Corbyn has one less enemy on the back benches.”

And one less M.P. if the Conservatives take the seat,

The Opposition is supposed to gain seats between general elections.

thenetworkbabe

24-12-2016

Originally Posted by sradia:
“Apologies, I haven't read the entire thread and this may be a rather simplistic question, but it's Christmas so hopefully you will let me off...

If Labour lose significantly, not sure what that would be in numbers, but if they did, how likely do you think it would be that Corbyn would step aside? Any chance? I think we need an effective opposition which we do not have at the moment, surely if he really cares about social inequality etc then he must know that Labour need a leader that can win an election?”

No. He doesn't care about winning seats, or being PM. And, his MPs have tried everything to get rid of him.

This may however crystallise many of the issues. Corbyn on Brexit, and immigration are unlikely to play with local voters, and his attempts to attract Greens, and disarm the country, won't play where the workforce man Sellafield and Barrow.

thenetworkbabe

24-12-2016

Thats an argument for all but half a dozen Labour MPs going. And anyone that can win a seat where many the workers build the next deterrent, isn't going to be a Corbyn fan.

Soppyfan

24-12-2016

Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“And one less M.P. if the Conservatives take the seat,

The Opposition is supposed to gain seats between general elections.”

Agreed, the Tory majority would go back up to 12 should they take the seat.

I could also see this Tory Gain as bad news for the Libdems for it would grind their advances to a halt.

Annsyre

24-12-2016

Originally Posted by Soppyfan:
“Agreed, the Tory majority would go back up to 12 should they take the seat.

I could also see this Tory Gain as bad news for the Libdems for it would grind their advances to a halt.”

And her working majority would go back to eighteen.

onecitizen

24-12-2016

Labour would be in a better position in Copeland if Corbyn's friends in terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollay could vote there.

TelevisionUser

24-12-2016

The voters of Copeland, as elsewhere in the north of England, have been let down by successive Labour and Tory-led governments and the choice is like choosing between steaming dog poo and festering fox poo.

The voters deserve better than the neglect of the two main parties and I sincerely hope that the voters in the Copeland constituency send a big FU message to Tories and Labour (and I don't care if the victors are UKIP, Lib Dems, Greens, etc.) otherwise more of the same neglect will surely follow.

Video Nasty

24-12-2016

Originally Posted by onecitizen:
“Labour would be in a better position in Copeland if Corbyn's friends in terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollay could vote there.”

Oh grow up.

rusty123

25-12-2016

Originally Posted by LostFool:
“I doubt any of them could find Copeland on a map.”

To be fair I've never heard of the place either. The only Copeland I've ever heard of was the drummer for the Police

gilesb

25-12-2016

Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Thats an argument for all but half a dozen Labour MPs going. And anyone that can win a seat where many the workers build the next deterrent, isn't going to be a Corbyn fan.”

It is a waste processing plant, I don't think they build any deterrents there.

LostFool

25-12-2016

Originally Posted by gilesb:
“It is a waste processing plant, I don't think they build any deterrents there.”

The Trident Successor subs will be built at BAE in Barrow in Furness which is also in the Copeland constituency.

Dingbat

25-12-2016

Originally Posted by LostFool:
“The Trident Successor subs will be built at BAE in Barrow in Furness which is also in the Copeland constituency.”

It's actually in Barrow and Furness constituency, where John Woodcock is the MP.

He's also Labour, so with the Dear Leader's stance on nukes, he'll be lucky to keep his seat at the next GE.

LostFool

25-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dingbat:
“It's actually in Barrow and Furness constituency, where John Woodcock is the MP.”

Woops. You are right. Still I bet a lot of the workforce and supply chain are in Copeland.

finbaar

25-12-2016

Originally Posted by Thor_Noggsson:
“Copeland is one of those seats that would vote for a monkey so long as it had a red rosette but by election upsets happen occasionally.
That said I expect Sellafield will have suffered from public spending cuts so the government might not be that popular either.”

You are clueless.

finbaar

25-12-2016

This thread shows the absolute ignorance of the majority of the DS politics forum. You should be ashamed.

mossy2103

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by finbaar:
“This thread shows the absolute ignorance of the majority of the DS politics forum. You should be ashamed.”

Please enlighten us with your wisdom so that we may see where we are going wrong.

Annsyre

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by LostFool:
“The Trident Successor subs will be built at BAE in Barrow in Furness which is also in the Copeland constituency.”

Utter nonsense. Barrow in Furness is a constituency in its own right as is Copeland.

Following boundary changes in 2009 the constituency covers the area of Copeland Borough Council plus the wards of Keswick, Crummock, Dalton and Derwent Valley in Allerdale.

jjwales

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by rusty123:
“To be fair I've never heard of the place either.”

Neither had I, but the main towns in the constituency are fairly well-known: Whitehaven and Keswick.

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