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Old 21-12-2016, 19:12
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You think France will no longer want British tourists? Haha, that's one of the funniest and most stupid things I've read today, as is the idea that the channel tunnel should be closed.

Closing it will not solve any problems at all. Some people still have this stupid idea that the tunnel is some sort of free for all where immigrants can just walk or get a train through with no controls. It's not, it's got security just as great or even greater than the ferry ports and almost on a par with airlines. I should know, I travelled on Eurostar just a few months ago.
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Old 21-12-2016, 19:37
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We use the tunnel for France and Harwich for Easter in Holland and theres hardly any security at Harwich the tunnel is very thorough. When I went in November they were checking door handles and steering wheels for traces of explosives,dogs sniffing cars and coaches as well
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:17
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When we leave the EU France will close it down anyway, they will not want the likes of us travelling to and through France. They will only open a small door at their end to let migrants walk though it to England, that is their plan.
That wont happen the EU countries will still want your pound notes.
The majority of cars on the French toll roads are from other countries and are not French
the French never seem to use their toll roads.
Has far as passport is concerned I have crossed many times and can assure you there is stringent controls both sides of the channel mostly by British immigration.
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Old 21-12-2016, 21:13
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Do you go to Butlins for your holidays?
do they have one in lalaland?
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Old 21-12-2016, 21:36
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The only way in and out of the UK would then be flight and ships, who would carefully check passports and boarding passes before allowing people in. Furthermore it would lead to less trucks on the road and more factories creating goods from home.
Talking about a retrograde step.
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Old 21-12-2016, 21:58
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I can only assume that the OP thinks that the Channel Tunnel is a bit like a road underpass where anyone can just wander down a few steps and walk through at will...
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:26
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Given that Trump will be building a wall across the southern border, I agree.

KEEP JOHNNY FOREIGNER OUT
Techincally apart from a few Welsh and other people of strong Celtic heritage we are all Johnny Foreigners.
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:51
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Fill it with water, turn the trains into submarines on wheels.

Let's see Johnny Migrant swim through it then.
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Old 21-12-2016, 23:38
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Fill it with water, turn the trains into submarines on wheels.

Let's see Johnny Migrant swim through it then.
At passport and security check each person gets a snorkel and flippers
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Old 21-12-2016, 23:45
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Aye, never used it anyway.

Oh, and build a catapult as a replacement.
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Old 21-12-2016, 23:51
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A trebuchet.
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Old 22-12-2016, 01:05
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Very fule efficient but difficult to get the passenger and luggage to the same spot that way Muggins.
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Old 22-12-2016, 02:30
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I can only assume that the OP thinks that the Channel Tunnel is a bit like a road underpass where anyone can just wander down a few steps and walk through at will...
does it smell of wee?
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Old 22-12-2016, 03:11
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Odd idea as you do realise OP that the trucks go back with goods too? Also, passports can be checked as well as they are at airports or ports so your reasoning falls a little flat.
I think the OP means, that less means of entry is more stable, than adding more structures allowing more people to enter. The tunnel is a bit of a risk, as anyone can slip through easily, but it can be closed at both ends if the need arises.
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:11
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Typical brexiteer thread.

Pull up the drawbridge! Take back control! Flood the tunnel! Sovereigntyyyyyy <cums>
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:30
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I think the OP means, that less means of entry is more stable, than adding more structures allowing more people to enter. The tunnel is a bit of a risk, as anyone can slip through easily, but it can be closed at both ends if the need arises.
Other than there being border control at either end.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel#Security
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:49
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The only way in and out of the UK would then be flight and ships, who would carefully check passports and boarding passes before allowing people in. Furthermore it would lead to less trucks on the road and more factories creating goods from home.
It should never have been built in the first place.
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:52
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You think France will no longer want British tourists? Haha, that's one of the funniest and most stupid things I've read today, as is the idea that the channel tunnel should be closed.

Closing it will not solve any problems at all. Some people still have this stupid idea that the tunnel is some sort of free for all where immigrants can just walk or get a train through with no controls. It's not, it's got security just as great or even greater than the ferry ports and almost on a par with airlines. I should know, I travelled on Eurostar just a few months ago.
Security is not that good when people can just walk through it and not be noticed or lorries with people in the back can come through.
Also, other countries need to use passports, not so called I.D cards, tat every would have in some E.U countries, at least you can take passports off people to at least try and stop them travelling.
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Old 22-12-2016, 10:23
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It should never have been built in the first place.
Why not. It's a gateway into and out of Europe without having to fly or take the ferry. Some of us would prefer not to fly for example.

And if we finally get our high speed train network up and running, the UK and continental networks can be directly linked up.

Even domestically it has had some benefits, as HS1 would never have been built if the Channel Tunnel hadn't, as part of HS1 is used for domestic high speed train services.

And there is still the possibility of being able to get direct high speed train services to countries like Germany and Spain, rather than having to change in France or Belgium.
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Old 22-12-2016, 10:47
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It should never have been built in the first place.
I agree;

…if the tunnel roof develops a catastrophic leak it would quickly drain the English Channel and permanently flood the entire South East of England to a depth of 20 feet.

It’s an accident waiting to happen;…brick it up at either end I say!
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Old 22-12-2016, 11:04
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Stupid idea.

The only reason the South of England gets decent weather in Summer is because it comes in from the continent via the Tunnel.
Indeed. I buy a lot of items from Germany and other places in Europe.
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Old 22-12-2016, 11:04
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What a moronic idea.
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Old 22-12-2016, 11:11
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The only way in and out of the UK would then be flight and ships, who would carefully check passports and boarding passes before allowing people in. Furthermore it would lead to less trucks on the road and more factories creating goods from home.
I think it should be extended to just outside your house.
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Old 22-12-2016, 11:16
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Other than there being border control at either end.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel#Security
Yet people still managed to slip through. You'd need a wall of border guards to stop anyone. I remember when there wasn't a channel tunnel, and ships, planes were used to go abroad, with little bother about it.
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Old 22-12-2016, 11:25
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No it shouldn't.

Next question.
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