Wait I thought we weren't supposed to believe what we see on the news, but here you are reversing your position on that.

Most people just go to bed you know, rather than watching snuff videos.

Tragically sad Aleppo, however, it's one of many cities in Syria that has had Putin and Assad treatment, the difference this time is that the general public in the UK were slowly being made aware of our own little regime change in Yemen with our dear friends Saudi Arabia, Government went into over drive by briefing the press to move the attention away from British cluster bombs in the Yemen to Putin and Assad barrel bombs in Aleppo, it just sound much nicer.

Such a simplistic and childlike view of the world where there are only two sides.

Naturaly all "rebels" are the same and if you suport one you must support all.

I think that is about the sum of it and it is the tragedy of the modern world that we have come to distrust Western news media just as much as we distrust Russian news media and the likes of Al Jazeera. Everyone has an agenda, or an editorial stance, and the reported news is skewed to that view and in terms of sources manipulation, falsification and downright invention is rampant and the West now reports much as fact where in the past they would refer to reporting restrictions or unverified sources. It is a mess.

You'd rather they were equal in strength so that equal numbers could be killed on both sides, and the civil was prolonged?

No, the sick evil twisted monsters posted the video all over the internet, proud to show off their handy work . hard not to believe it when you can watch the agonising twisting and turning of the men as they slowly burn alive.

Anyway with the distinct lack over any evidence whatsoever about rape gangs, children burned alive and bloggers sending their final messages I think we can all just assume it was fake news - in fact one of those bloggers popped up a day later, interviewing a 'rebel' who proudly showed the suicide vest he was wearing off for the camera!

To find those sorts of videos you have to delve pretty deep into the nasty parts of the internet. I fear for your sanity, especially as you wanted to find them.

Really? I found it on a news site that offered a graphic video warning beforehand.

It was very easy to see. I saw it yesterday afternoon on a very well know freely available public site

No reputable news site would show unedited, uncensored video like that.

I have grave misgivings about anyone sick enough to watch videos like that.

Some news sites like RT, Fox, and the Daily Mail are the nasty parts of the internet.

Delve pretty deep?

Just type in 'syria turkish soldiers burned alive' in google, the fifth result on the front page offers the full video with a graphic warning content.

I suppose what I am trying to say is why on earth would you want to type 'syria turkish soldiers burned alive' into google in the first place? What does that say about you?

Says those trapped.

It says I'm a evil, pro Assad, Putin loving psycho obviously.

Actually I didn't look it up I went on my FB and it was in one of those things on the right hand side where it tells you the latest news that is trending.

You know it is possible to hate Assad AND ISIS, right?

But our foreign policy is clearly to use Islamo-fascists (not just ISIS) to overthrow Addad's regime.

Any pretence that it's for humanitarian motives has been exposed for the lie that it is. Also it is quite clear that the most recent claims about specific atrocities supposedly committed in Aleppo by Assad's forces are completely made up.

Apologies, I assumed the people burning videos you were googling last night were ISIS ones and personally I don't want to watch them myself to find out. You hadn't made it clear that they wern't. The only people I care about in all this is the poor sods having their lives and homes destroyed, which seems to be happening from both sides.

Wait, you're saying it was a video direct from the source, but now you're saying it's been curated and presented by a news channel, which (according to you) are inherently untrustworthy?

make up your mind.

Setantii only believes that the rebels are committing atrocities, and that any such atrocities committed by the Assad regime and the Russians are either just accidental and/or fake news created by the west.

(he's really just here to spread propaganda)

Fake news = news which van be proven to be fake

MSM = Today on QT we have Nigel Farage, Michael Gove and Paul Nuttal with Daily Mail & The Express columnists, as we ask if Brexit is a good thing, and is where did Corbyn dance this week?

I'm 100% certain atrocities have been committed by both sides in this horrific conflict. I understand the Assad regime is pretty brutal but that does not excuse making up outright lies to demonise Syrian forces. Specific claims were made in the last week by the MSM about supposed atrocities that never occurred. THAT is propaganda but you won't admit it. When it comes to foreign conflicts our media is every bit as one sided as RT is for Russia.

Syrian rebels commit atrocities and lie, but then you turn around and say Assad is "pretty brutal" which is the understatement of the century.

You clearly have an agenda here, and it's ridiculously transparent.

I do not think it is so much about who actually does what it is more the point about who informs us that who does what, is it accurate and true and is there a reason why they are informing us other than just producing facts for us. There seems to be an ever increasing preponderance to not verify, accentuate, manipulate (even falsify and invent) news that meets their particular stance. Also to not report, downplay, change or even falsely denigrate news that does not meet the particular stance. Now if that happens, even in the smallest way it becomes propaganda and it seems we are fed propaganda from all sides and both inform us they are accurate, truthful and factual.