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Old 22-12-2016, 04:42
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I wish the beeb would reinstate the Christmas ghost stories, like the M R James plays and Dicken's The Railwayman.
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Old 22-12-2016, 04:55
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What happened to the Queens broadcast in 1969? According to these listings she's not on BBC 1 or ITV http://ctva.biz/UK/TV-Listings/_CTVA...tings_1969.htm
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Old 22-12-2016, 05:51
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I'd agree, there's an awful lot of junk in that schedule. Compared to the normal programming all year round in 1976, it must have seemed "exciting" back then but to our eyes in 2016 it actually looks quite mediocre.
There's an awful lot of junk now, more in fact with all the extra channels we've got now. It's no more mediocre than this years Christmas TV line up.
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Old 22-12-2016, 08:39
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Back then you had to watch whatever was on the main channels or switch the box off.

Today we have Netflix, Amazon Prime, catch up/on demandTV, Sky/Virgin TV, DVDs, Boxsets, online entertainment etc etc.

We are spoilt for choice really and yet some people still complain about there being nothing to watch.
The old saying rings true sometimes. More is not always better !
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Old 22-12-2016, 08:53
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When you look back, apart from the big shows like Morecambe and Wise, Only Fools etc Christmas TV was not particularly good, the only real difference is the lack of decent film premieres and the domination of the soaps on BBC1 and itv
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:24
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When people talk about the Golden tv generation you can see why
Seeing this schedule & then the utter garbage we are being served this year I am so glad I grew up in Xmas tv Golden Generation and at same time feel sorry for the youngsters who never experienced a Golden tv generation you Really don't know what you missed


http://ctva.biz/UK/TV-Listings/_CTVA...tings_1976.htm
No need to feel sorry for us at all. That 1976 schedule seems well boring. At least this year they is a family drama with Doctor Who.
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Old 22-12-2016, 11:19
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What happened to the Queens broadcast in 1969? According to these listings she's not on BBC 1 or ITV http://ctva.biz/UK/TV-Listings/_CTVA...tings_1969.htm
There was no Queen's broadcast in 1969 because a repeat of a BBC documentary about the Royal Family was deemed to be sufficient Royal coverage. The Queen issued a written statement that year. The Queen's broadcast returned on Christmas Day 1970.
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Old 22-12-2016, 11:31
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Interesting to see December 26th there being referred to as Christmas Sunday, a term I saw widely used in TV listings as recently as 1993 when that day was a Sunday. These days December 26th seems to always get called Boxing Day even if it's at a weekend.
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Old 22-12-2016, 14:54
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I wish the beeb would reinstate the Christmas ghost stories, like the M R James plays and Dicken's The Railwayman.
It is odd how the ghost story at Christmas has grown in people's imagination to the extent that it's now somehow remembered as having been part of BBC's Christmas output since the year dot and only recently torn away from us by uncaring modernisers. In fact there were just 8 stories running from 1971 to 1978. Moreoiver there have been several revivals. The most recent in this ad hoc 'series' was shown on BBC 4 in 2013, adapted by. Mark Gatiss who also did a series of ghost stories (Crooked House) in Christmas week in 2008. There were also outings on BBC Four in 2005, 2006 and 2010.

All the 8 originals are available on DVD.

BIB The Signalman
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:58
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BBC1 25/12/76

11:15am Rod Hull and Emu: guest Rolf Harris, from New Mills, Derbyshire

Quality
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:09
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Interesting to see December 26th there being referred to as Christmas Sunday, a term I saw widely used in TV listings as recently as 1993 when that day was a Sunday. These days December 26th seems to always get called Boxing Day even if it's at a weekend.
That muddle was because, for a while, "Boxing Day" and "a bank holiday in lieu of the Boxing Day bank holiday" became confused. So, if 26th was a Sunday, the government list of holidays started saying that "Boxing Day" moves to the Monday. That was wrong - it was the bank holiday (in lieu of the Boxing Day bank holiday) which moves, not the day itself. Historically, before this muddle, Boxing Day was always the 26th. Boxing Day as a day cannot move from 26th no more than Christmas Day can move from the 25th.
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:31
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I am 70 and in my opinion TV has never been better. In 1976 you were stuck with 3 channels, limited recording facilities, no ability to pause programmes and a small number of films.
In your opnion then why does everybody call. The 70s /8os the golden age of British TV then for example when OFAH/Minder went head to head more than 40 Million tuned in
In 1987 ? So at a then population in the UK at 47 million thst was 93% of the UK then
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:39
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In your opnion then why does everybody call. The 70s /8os the golden age of British TV then for example when OFAH/Minder went head to head more than 40 Million tuned in
In 1987 ? So at a then population in the UK at 47 million thst was 93% of the UK then
But the same amount are watching TV these days, it's just people have more choice and more ways to watch.

I'm not sure "everybody" calls the 70s/80s the golden age of British TV. I'm not even sure "anybody" does.

Personally I am always more lilkely to be watching BBC Two or Channel 4 than the main terrestrials; in the days before VHS it was hard for people like me to get to watch any TV at all, so I basically didn't! Family-safe viewing really never was my thing.

Far from being the Golden Age for me it is more akin to the Ice Age (or Frozen Out Age).
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:43
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In your opnion then why does everybody call. The 70s /8os the golden age of British TV then for example when OFAH/Minder went head to head more than 40 Million tuned in
In 1987 ? So at a then population in the UK at 47 million thst was 93% of the UK then
Because big numbers are always impressive. Sadly it says absolutely nothing about quality. In the 70s you came in from school or work, turned on the box and it stayed on until 10.30 (quite often without a single change of channel) when you went to bed because there simply wasn't much of anything else to do, especially for those many homes that still only had one warm room in the house through the winter.
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:47
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But the same amount are watching TV these days, it's just people have more choice and more ways to watch.

I'm not sure "everybody" calls the 70s/80s the golden age of British TV. I'm not even sure "anybody" does.

Personally I am always more lilkely to be watching BBC Two or Channel 4 than the main terrestrials; in the days before VHS it was hard for people like me to get to watch any TV at all, so I basically didn't! Family-safe viewing really never was my thing.

Far from being the Golden Age for me it is more akin to the Ice Age (or Frozen Out Age).
everybody is entitled to their opnion but apart from TOTP & Call midwife there is Noting I would rush to not miss on Xmas day ie like morecome & wise or Minder etc 3 hours soaps
Is certainly Not what I call classic varied choice .as for Golden Age of Xmas Tv you only have e to look at the Retro programmes about looking back k at Xmas tv past that majority will.be of programmes from.70s/80s I mean who did not watch Minder/OFAH
In their heyday Very few thst I know anyway
But it's about opnions I guess and that's mine
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:53
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Because big numbers are always impressive. Sadly it says absolutely nothing about quality. In the 70s you came in from school or work, turned on the box and it stayed on until 10.30 (quite often without a single change of channel) when you went to bed because there simply wasn't much of anything else to do, especially for those many homes that still only had one warm room in the house through the winter.
I grew up on Xmas tv usually BBC as my Dad God bless him worked for corporation for 50 years so watching Itv was a No /No on xmss day morecambe/wise yarwood etc Had to be on i grew up watching TOTP in a glam rock era so.always watched Xmas day TOTP special of course we all watch the Queen we Had to on BBC too then off course EE made soap history with That epsiode in 1986 so it was BBC all way for us
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:53
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everybody is entitled to their opnion but apart from TOTP & Call midwife there is Noting I would rush to not miss on Xmas day ie like morecome & wise or Minder etc 3 hours soaps
Is certainly Not what I call classic varied choice .as for Golden Age of Xmas Tv you only have e to look at the Retro programmes about looking back k at Xmas tv past that majority will.be of programmes from.70s/80s I mean who did not watch Minder/OFAH
In their heyday Very few thst I know anyway
But it's about opnions I guess and that's mine
Thing is just because you won't be watching anything doesn't automatically make it bad; millions will be begging to differ and voting with their on switch.

On the soaps point (and I don't watch any so it's a devil's advocate point) the TV schedulers are catering to what people want to watch, which leads to them doing battle with each other. To put it simply, if people didn't want to watch them they wouldn't be on...

As for me, the TV I'm most looking forward to is the return of Trigger Happy TV - as well as Cats Does Countdown - on Xmas Eve; those for me are as big as you suggest the likes of Minder etc were back then. And that's the point, I now have a choice to watch what I prefer to watch, back then it would've been the programmes you mention or nothing. How many people with my preferences ended up watching with the family by default, especially as putting on BBC Two, and latterly Channel 4, would mean Family Warfare!!!?
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:57
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Thing is just because you won't be watching anything doesn't automatically make it bad; millions will be begging to differ and voting with their on switch.

On the soaps point (and I don't watch any so it's a devil's advocate point) the TV schedulers are catering to what people want to watch, which leads to them doing battle with each other. To put it simply, if people didn't want to watch them they wouldn't be on...

As for me, the TV I'm most looking forward to is the return of Trigger Happy TV on Xmas Eve - that for me is as big as you suggest the likes of Minder etc were back then
Got to admit never heard of Trigger happy TV but then again I. Never heard of Honey G untill i asked my daughter
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:58
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Got to admit never heard of Trigger happy TV but then again I. Never heard of Honey G untill i asked my daughter
It's from the REAL Golden Age of TV
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:00
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It is odd how the ghost story at Christmas has grown in people's imagination to the extent that it's now somehow remembered as having been part of BBC's Christmas output since the year dot and only recently torn away from us by uncaring modernisers. In fact there were just 8 stories running from 1971 to 1978. Moreoiver there have been several revivals. The most recent in this ad hoc 'series' was shown on BBC 4 in 2013, adapted by. Mark Gatiss who also did a series of ghost stories (Crooked House) in Christmas week in 2008. There were also outings on BBC Four in 2005, 2006 and 2010.

All the 8 originals are available on DVD.

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Thanks, I knew the Railwayman didn't sound right.

The seventies was my favourite Christmas times- mainly because a lot of people I love were still alive and now they aren't
So even though there were only 8, I'd like them to be shown, there's such useless dross on nowadays.
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Old 23-12-2016, 03:50
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There's an awful lot of junk now, more in fact with all the extra channels we've got now. It's no more mediocre than this years Christmas TV line up.
I would agree completely though I would still question how much of that stuff from the 1970s would be broadcastable today. There are the obvious classics like Fawlty Towers, Dad's Army, Rising Damp, Steptoe and Son, Upstairs Downstairs and a few others but there was a lot of complete dross as well.

It's hard to estimate if it was a genuine 'golden era' at all. You could make similar claims for the 80s, 90s or even later.
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Old 23-12-2016, 07:32
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For the most part TV isn't so different now - some classics alongside a majority of filler content. Michael Macintire's show isn't so different to the variety specials of years gone by. Jim'll fix it was always on, but I remember as child thinking it was dire - but there wasn't much else to choose from. The Great British Bake Off, Dr Who and Mrs Brown's Boys - all at the top of their game.

Short of science finding a way to reincarnate Morecome and Wise I'm not sure how some people will be satisfied by modern TV.

Of course the big change is the where the very best TV is broadcast. Game of Thrones, WestWorld, The Young Pope... there have never been series like them before - you had to go to the cinema to see anything close.
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Old 23-12-2016, 10:58
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It's been said that there were fewer channels back then, but despite the multi-channels we have now, BBC1 and ITV1 are still the most watched channels and have the highest rated programmes.
They thus are still expected to make more of an effort with their Christmas TV schedules. I think the BBC1 evening schedule on Christmas Day evening is poor, especially as it's exactly the same as last year and the year before. Call the Midwife should be on Boxing Day, not one of the "highlights" of Christmas Day TV. I also feel British Bake Off shouldn't be on either, but that's because I can't understand the obsession with cookery programmes and have no interest in them. Dr Who, fair enough, I'm not a massive fan, but I know it's popular.
I never have high hopes for ITV, so I'm not dissapointed with them.

I'm old enough to remember 70's Christmas TV and while it's true there was a lot of dross, I would say the best programmes shown then were better than the best programmes shown now.
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Old 23-12-2016, 11:08
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It's been said that there were fewer channels back then, but despite the multi-channels we have now, BBC1 and ITV1 are still the most watched channels and have the highest rated programmes.
They thus are still expected to make more of an effort with their Christmas TV schedules. I think the BBC1 evening schedule on Christmas Day evening is poor, especially as it's exactly the same as last year and the year before. Call the Midwife should be on Boxing Day, not one of the "highlights" of Christmas Day TV. I also feel British Bake Off shouldn't be on either, but that's because I can't understand the obsession with cookery programmes and have no interest in them. Dr Who, fair enough, I'm not a massive fan, but I know it's popular.
I never have high hopes for ITV, so I'm not dissapointed with them.

I'm old enough to remember 70's Christmas TV and while it's true there was a lot of dross, I would say the best programmes shown then were better than the best programmes shown now.
Wnat would you put in the "Call the Midwife" slot?
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Old 23-12-2016, 11:47
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The 1976 schedule looks pretty boring, as does the Christmas tv schedules put out by broadcasters in 2016.

The only thing I have any interest in watching on Christmas Day is the NFL game at 9.30
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