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Old 03-01-2017, 13:28
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Precisely. There simply is no need to ascribe any form of lesbian love to the relationship except to give yourself something else to criticise. The jealous help is a common theme in literature; Mrs Danvers in Rebecca, for example.

Having said that it's ludicrous to suggest that there was no lesbianism in the 1920s or that Christie would have been unaware of it. There are more than enough hints at gay relationships in her work to justify bringing this out in a modern adaptation.
I agree - Christie absolutely was aware of lesbianism. She even mentions it in one of the
Poirot novels, Hallowe'en Party.
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:51
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Well obviously it's with the full approval of the Christie rights holders. How could they have produced it otherwise. That doesn't mean it's okay or that AC would have liked seeing her work being pulled and dragged around like this.
I hate these 'sexed up' new versions they come out with.

I can't even watch some of the full length Poirot's because the story is so different to the book. Cards on the table - good grief! They even made a doctor gay in that .... and two female friends ... one of them tried to kill the other - A tried to kill B. in the book it was B trying to kill A. I couldn't believe they did that. Ridiculous.

Most of the full length adaptations are different to the books, and when you've read the books a few times, like I have, it's just hard to watch a completely new version!

I was looking forward to watching this til I read what they'd done to it, so I didn't bother. Same as And there were none.

Isn't the original story good enough?
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Old 03-01-2017, 18:39
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I agree - Christie absolutely was aware of lesbianism. She even mentions it in one of the
Poirot novels, Hallowe'en Party.
Yes she was aware of it and subtly alluded to it in one or two of her novels - most notably A Murder is Announced. That's very different to gratuitous and in your face scenes. AC never made it the most salient point about someone, or used it to stereotype or shock her readers. She was more mature and sophisticated than that.
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Old 03-01-2017, 21:49
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Isn't the original story good enough?
No. And never has been. Because it simply isn't written as a drama. You can remain faithful to the book or you can make a good drama. You can't do both.
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:49
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Had this recorded so only just started watching it. I couldn't even get through the first episode, it was just so dull and slow. Enjoyed last year's ATTWN but this year's effort was dire.
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Old 03-01-2017, 23:26
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I mentioned earlier that. Had the BBC wished a WW1 survivor guilt drama, there were far better and more relevant examples they could have picked.

Not sure why they would choose a well known murder mystery to make that drama.
What are you talking about? It was simply one strand of a 'who dunnit' drama.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:00
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Had this recorded so only just started watching it. I couldn't even get through the first episode, it was just so dull and slow. Enjoyed last year's ATTWN but this year's effort was dire.
Exactly the same as me
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:31
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No. And never has been. Because it simply isn't written as a drama. You can remain faithful to the book or you can make a good drama. You can't do both.
Remaining faithful to the book doesn't mean using it line for line. There have been many good dramas that remained faithful to the book eg the aforementioned Rebecca.
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Old 04-01-2017, 16:48
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Remaining faithful to the book doesn't mean using it line for line. There have been many good dramas that remained faithful to the book eg the aforementioned Rebecca.
Really?

In the novel, Maxim shoots Rebecca, while in the film, he only thinks of killing her as she taunted him into believing that she was pregnant with another man's child, and her subsequent death is accidental. However, Rebecca was not pregnant but had incurable cancer and had a motive to commit suicide, that of punishing Maxim from beyond the grave. Therefore, her death is declared a suicide, not murder.
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Old Yesterday, 15:05
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I'm talking about the television adaptation of Rebecca, not the Hitchcock film. The point is that it is perfectly possible to make a good drama while remaining faithful to the tone and spirit of the book. It has been done many, many times.
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