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Guy Verhofstadt wants to ban Poland from voting within the EU
James_Orton
21-12-2016
Yep, no kidding. Not content with wanting to punish the UK, he is now after stopping poland from having any voting rights in the EU!

http://mailer.alde.eu/display.php?M=...527&L=2&N=2892
Eurostar
22-12-2016
He's proposing this on behalf of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (as can be seen from the press release above)......it has nothing to do with official EU policy, more of a campaigning stance from that political grouping within the parliament.
MARTYM8
22-12-2016
Another jumped up liberal Democrat who can't seem to cope with the democratically expressed will of the people - this time the Polish people at their most recent general election..

ALDE are even cheaper than the supermarket chain they appear to be named after.
Geelong Cat
22-12-2016
I'm guessing this is to do with the Constitutional Court crisis in Poland? Not something I'd heard about before, but interesting stuff. I think this is the key issue based on the press release: "This crisis has only got worse over the last months. Now, the Constitutional Court is under the political control of the ruling party, constitutionality of laws cannot be checked and ensured any more".

The government isn't recognising various decisions made by the Constitutional Court and is trying to limit its power, from what I can gather from a very brief read. Seems very reasonable that Guy Verhofstadt should call for action.
Alrightmate
22-12-2016
Why do these authoritarian types tend to label themselves as something with 'democrat' or 'democratic' in their name?
Resonance
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Why do these authoritarian types tend to label themselves as something with 'democrat' or 'democratic' in their name?”

To make it sound like something they're not I guess.
MARTYM8
22-12-2016
The EU and it's biggest proponents the EU Lib Dum group doesn't like the current Polish government because it isn't pro EU enough and doesn't agree with its migrant quotas.

If the Polish ruling party was that extreme why do Theresa Mays Tories ally with them in the European Parliament.

Who should decide who governs Poland - mobs protesting in Warsaw or the Polish people via a general election? Seems the EU Lib Dums want the former and seemingly an effective coup against the elected parliament.
James_Orton
22-12-2016
It speaks volumes when a beurcrat from Belgium, the same one involved in Brexit, wants to BlackBall another EU country.

Perhaps the master plan is to have the EU consist of Anyone who can speak German or French?
skp20040
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by James_Orton:
“It speaks volumes when a beurcrat from Belgium, the same one involved in Brexit, wants to BlackBall another EU country.

Perhaps the master plan is to have the EU consist of Anyone who can speak German or French?”

Well they want the Brexit negotiations held in French
andykn
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by James_Orton:
“Yep, no kidding. Not content with wanting to punish the UK, he is now after stopping poland from having any voting rights in the EU!

http://mailer.alde.eu/display.php?M=...527&L=2&N=2892”

When did he say he wanted to punish the UK?
andykn
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by James_Orton:
“It speaks volumes when a beurcrat from Belgium, the same one involved in Brexit, wants to BlackBall another EU country.

Perhaps the master plan is to have the EU consist of Anyone who can speak German or French?”

Isn't he an elected politician?
andykn
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“Well they want the Brexit negotiations held in French”

As he's Flemish, wouldn't Verhofstadt hate that even more than us?
skp20040
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by andykn:
“As he's Flemish, wouldn't Verhofstadt hate that even more than us?”

Probably but then he is the negotiator rep for the EU parliament , Michel Barnier the former French Foreign Minister and now the EU Commission guy is the one in the top job when it comes to negotiations and he is the one laying down the law so to speak . Verhofstadt was the one who ripped in to the council recently and threatened that the EU parliament would negotiate directly with the UK
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