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VM new TiVo box "V6"
VM are now taking orders from customers for it's new TV box " V6 "
VM did say in the reports on it's press party showing the box to the world that customers world get the box in December and new customer would be able to place orders in January but with so many customers liking what the does there are many having their new V6 box put into there home booked for Feb' 2017. VM customers are being charged between £49 to £99 depending on their packages with VM. I have had 2 new V6 boxes put into my home with a new Hub 3 just over a week ago ![]() The box is smaller then old TiVo box and it does work quicker then the older box. It needs to be linked to the VM Hub by Wi Fi or Network cable and if needed a power line plugs can be used to link the box. The box has the old TV aerial socket at the back which needs an extra link cable to join with the cable. The Box has HDMI socket, Network Socket, power Socket that needs same type of cable like the old TiVo had but without the green light this time. The box has two 4K / UHD services Netflix & You Tube working now but also as of today ( 21/12/16 ) I seen that BBC iPlayer is now testing UHD on the V6 box. ![]() Yes the box will record 6 channels at the same time while you watch a player or recording. The box also has two extra turners which help with data like EPG which now has colourful channel logos on the larger guide and smaller three line guide. As on the older box the software has same colours and images for shows and films on the players systems. BUT it works a lot better. VM tech guys will bring a V6 in a plastic bag with a white small cable link and power lead and new smaller remote. The smaller remote is the same shape as the older one but smaller and few buttons changes and will need to be linked to the box. The boot screen at the start as welcome plus in a number different languages and asks to have a network cable linked to the Hub or choice of Wi Fi and on that screen the box will show all networks that box can pick up. you will see the VM hub SSID name and you use the remote to point to that one and then the box will ask for the passcode then a keypad will show on screen and when you finished the box will link to the hub and on screen will be network data including how strong the Wi Fi my two boxes show Good & Excellent and work OK. The box will then load an up date software and EPG along with all images like channel logos and show images. the box will ask for the remote to be fully sync and that means you need to press the TV & clear button at the same time and the remote light at the end will flash green and code will be needed to be keyed 0999 and the green light flash again. then box will allow you full control . The box will hold the Wi Fi code if the power of the box is switched off BUT if you ask the box for FULL delete and fresh start you will need to put Wi Fi code in again. The V6 will not allow you to use the network cable socket to link to another V6 when using the Wi Fi and socket is spare. ![]() The has small LED screen and three buttons the power button has colour light white power on and red off. The remote can be linked to your TV like most boxes remote by putting a code in. One of my V6 boxes failed few hours after it was put in ( EPG data did not load right with blank parts and the box would not allow you to freeze a live show or rewind and was told to take the box to fresh start and then box would not start after that ) the box was swapped . ![]() I feel VM will get many of damage boxes as the box is not in a box on the Vans like all past boxes so can easy be knocked and damaged while being transported around. ![]() The V6 has trouble using the UHD / 4K services by Wi Fi link as the two time I have used Netflix the film and show needed buffering on screen and the test today of the BBC iPlayer UHD also buffered ......My UHD TV has Netflix and over the last six months linked by network cable has never needed to buffer with hours ... ![]() VM hub 3 has a better Wi Fi signal then the older hubs and some people may need to have one to help with Wi Fi linking of the V6 if all the ports are being used and two boxes are in different rooms of your home. You can use the VM site to load your old TiVo settings to the new V6 but you have 14 days to this or data will be lost. BUT the new box will add to any series links online shows to the listing on My Shows if the series were placed before the link+ software was loaded few months ago.... hope this is help |
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My hub is not near the television, will the VM engineer move that during install, so I can connect the V6 by the an ethernet cable?
When ordering the V6, I asked if it was next in that location, but I didn't ask about the specifics at the time. |
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My hub is not near the television, will the VM engineer move that during install, so I can connect the V6 by the an ethernet cable?
When ordering the V6, I asked if it was next in that location, but I didn't ask about the specifics at the time. Yes he'll move it, it's a simple job that just requires a splitter |
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Yes he'll move it, it's a simple job that just requires a splitter
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I have the Hub 3 at the far end of one room and my V6 box in another room so the signal is going through thick brick walls yet I still I get a Wi Fi signal that the box marks as excellent .
So Hub move may not be needed to have the new V6 TiVo .. |
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Had 2 V6's installed on Monday one upstairs one downstairs.
The upstairs proved difficult rejecting the Powerline connection I said 'I thought the V6 was WiFi?' he said 'yes but the initial set up has to be done via a wired connection' he got the upstairs connection sorted by going straight into the hub, then went back downstairs. Engineer was struggling to get the downstairs one to connect via Powerline after a while he reluctantly decided to try connecting via WiFi. Initially this was problematic trying to connect to a 5GHz network after two or 3 attempts he tried a 2.4Ghz network perfect. He said the Powerline needed to be connected direct to a wall outlet for it to work I pointed out that the set up worked fine for the Tivo's and incidentally it works fine with a Home Theatre system. From this I concluded that V6's don't need a wired connection for initial set up. Once he'd gone I switched the upstairs V6 to WiFi as well. To be fair the Engineer did say it was the first V6 installation he'd done. |
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Totally agree with you Martyoo that I found that the VM guys had no real training on how to fix a V6 in the many ways needed for all types of home set ups.
As I said I had trouble with one box and the second person had more trouble putting the replacement then the first fit were I had the new Hub 3 put in ... What I have seen and understand is that the Hub must be on first and that the V6 the cable and HDMI with power lead fixed in and as the boxes seem to have different software as my replacement box could not look for a Wi Fi signal until it had downloaded new software and the remote was linked to it as the guy was here twice the time as my first fix with new hub and two V6 boxes .... in the end after time the man said he give his phone number to call him in the hour if the box did not boot again after the download The box looks for cable network first and will only give you a choice after updated software is loaded in some boxes as the replacement did not have the software that allowed channel logos at the start. Luck I had spare network cable from a power line in the room or the replacement just would not have booted. In the end I just kept the box and TV on for half hour after the man went to allow the box to fully load all data it needed. then I asked the box to clear all and reboot taking cable away and then after about 5 to 8 minutes the box give the choice at boot to put in Wi Fi codes and link and box showed the right software as my other box and the network was at 90% and it still working fine recording and freezing shows and rewinding etc... I feel VM needs to make sure all boxes are same age and same software as reports are showing that many are having trouble in linking the box and Tech guys need time to fix the boxes in our home with the right gear like network cables to link the box at start if needed and power line to boost any Hub signals if needed as both guys told me that they can not use the power line on the vans as they do not know charges for customers and them as all stock on the vans need to be accounted for each day . I feel in mid 2017 VM will have box as self fix replacement as the box are all at same software as the old TiVo were and all was needed was a phone number to change a box over. |
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The V6 set up procedure does seem rather haphazard, if I didn't know better I'd swear they were using Windows!
One of our two V6's seems to have a problem, it doesn't come out of Standby correctly it hangs with a blank screen. Switching it off and on again via the rear panel power switch restores normal operation. I'm not ringing CS about it till after Xmas I just won't switch it to standby I don't want to risk losing for Xmas. |
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And how long before it is offered as standard?
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And how long before it is offered as standard?
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Well they've offered Tivo "as standard" for some time now but, okay. Whatever you say
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I had exactly the same nonsense when the engineer set up my V6 and he too said he'd had no training and it was his first installation.
He said it wouldn't work without a hard wired or Homeplug connection and had no idea about its WiFi capabilities. Together we got it working in the end. AIUI, the V6 is now being offered as standard in some packages. |
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oh fun.
so I was told I had to wait til jan and now people are getting them now? Not happy. |
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Well they've offered Tivo "as standard" for some time now but, okay. Whatever you say
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Recent posts seem to suggest there is no standard pricing structure for V6 installs.
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If this is what you mean by standard the fair enough.
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AIUI, the V6 is now being offered as standard in some packages.
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VM new TiVo box "V6"
Only in the Full House package and as an upgrade with cost with the Mix TV package
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VM new TiVo box "V6"
I had an E - Mail from Virgin this morning offering me a better deal to get a V6 TiVo box
See New VM Deals Thread for details I am getting my installed on the Wednesday 4th of January 2017 or the Thursday 5th of January 2017 They must be desperate to get these boxes into people's homes because the first offer I got of £155 Installation fee with no change in service and just a straight box swap, for me it was a way too low of an offer to take up the new V6 TiVo box and I was very happy to recline/reject their offer The second offer was the best one out of the two and made me have a shock and be very surprised I suppose they spent a lot of money on these new boxes, that is why they gave me a second offer to get a V6 TiVo box and a very much better one at that |
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I'm due to get one installed on 1st Feb with full house and movies bundle. Really looking forward to it. i liked the old Tivo, was one of the early adopters and it was amazing at the time but as the years passed it's performance seemed to worsen (unless it was just everything else improving) to the extent it became awkward to use. I think VM probably lost a fair few customers over it's sluggish performance and debateably waited far too long for a box refresh considering the amount Sky have put out in the same period. However one could on the flip side say their timing was ideal as at least their waiting allows them to take advantage of the latest standards like 4K and HDR, even heard it can support Dolby Atmos, which is amazing if true(?) and hopefully they have put out something that can better weather the future of TV. The only negative IMHO is the 1TB HDD, I really think a 2TB option should have been there from the start and will become essential when 4K broadcasting comes.
Another odd thing I noticed is that all the pictures I have seen of the V6 show it having a aerial style push in socket on the back rather than the f screw terminal normally used for cable and satellite. Makes me wonder if there is going to be a Freeview version of the box, as I don't see why else they would make a box for cable that is incompatible (I know it's just a simple adaptor) with the very coax that cable is delivered over?! |
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Another odd thing I noticed is that all the pictures I have seen of the V6 show it having a aerial style push in socket on the back rather than the f screw terminal normally used for cable and satellite. Makes me wonder if there is going to be a Freeview version of the box, as I don't see why else they would make a box for cable that is incompatible (I know it's just a simple adaptor) with the very coax that cable is delivered over?! When you have your installation the engineer might say he needs to connect it directly to a router or VM Hub via cable. He doesn't Wi-Fi connections work just fine including for initial set up. |
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Another odd thing I noticed is that all the pictures I have seen of the V6 show it having a aerial style push in socket on the back rather than the f screw terminal normally used for cable and satellite. Makes me wonder if there is going to be a Freeview version of the box, as I don't see why else they would make a box for cable that is incompatible (I know it's just a simple adaptor) with the very coax that cable is delivered over?!
Clearly a different connector standard than F-Type is used in some other market (US?) |
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This struck me as odd when my installation was done, plus there is an odd shaped socket labelled SCART.
When you have your installation the engineer might say he needs to connect it directly to a router or VM Hub via cable. He doesn't Wi-Fi connections work just fine including for initial set up. |
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That "SCART" socket looks a lot like an S-Video socket. SCART connectors in this country had a very different defined shape.
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Another odd thing I noticed is that all the pictures I have seen of the V6 show it having a aerial style push in socket on the back rather than the f screw terminal normally used for cable and satellite.
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Yes The V6 has old fashion aerial socket at the back were VM staff will fix 8 inch white cable which joints the older socket to cable.
The V6 box also has from left to right on the back..... Coax in Audio Scart out ( round socket ) HDMI USB Internet D Audio Power socket power switch. Two switches by the LED screen then long light which turn red and white. The box has had small update over Christmas or server changes from VM or Netflix as before Christmas boxes would not load Netflix and a few customers reports must have done the trick as the last five days Netflix has worked great even UHD shows have worked great in fact I watched a full UHD box set in three night using V6 on Wi Fi. My V6 boxes are working great and have been from the one replacement before Christmas. I have notice that were I used my 2 old TiVo to share the recording of my best shows as many seem to be on at the same hours I now use one box which now show up that 1TB hard drive is not going to be right as I now have to box full to 49% were over the last few years my boxes never went over 32% . OK I am recording more shows with links+ now as new & old shows are back on our screens but now we have 6 channels to record at the same time we do not need to miss out on shows we would not recorded. ( GREAT ) The box is working well with software and hardware at better speed then old TiVo The BBC iPlayer testing of UHD video which is at this time on a loop is showing will on my UHD 3D TV. I have notice that VM is using the E-mail / message system on the V6 to tell us about what the box can do and with hope they will keep us all updated with any changes coming like the EPG changes to Sky Cinema SD & HD swaps on the 20th of this month. I hope that VM in 2017 now get some UHD of it's own and builds on this box speed & SD, HD, 3D, and UHD. |
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They only seem to be using the TiVo messaging service to send out automated tips on how to get the best out of the box.
Someone once did suggest to them (Carl?) that this could be used for such things as new channel announcements, EPG changes etc and they seemed very interested in doing this. I'm surprised that they never followed this through; the only times that I've ever received any messages are hints & tips after one TiVo and one V6 were installed. |
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