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Does anyone on here remember the smallpox vaccine
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mattkt
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by LakieLady:
“I think you're getting smallpox mixed up with the Black Death.

I thought that smallpox vax was still done until the late 60s, maybe even very early 70s. I'm sure my brother had a smallpox shot.

The left arm scar is usually from smallpox. Polio shots didn't tend to leave scars.”

I think the smallpox vax is still given to military personnel deployed abroad even though it was eradicated worldwide in the 80,s
bri160356
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dix:
“I had teachers like that too, and shied away from them until I got brave to face one of them, but that teacher beat me back with a look and words. But when that mouse ran across the floor, that fixed her good and proper, she became a quivering mass, hunched up on that stool, squealing her head off at the poor mouse. Losing one's dignity over a mouse isn't the way to do things in a class of girls Respect goes out the window.

Maybe your Mrs T could do with a mouse or two”

oh, I don’t know,..she was a formidable character old Mrs Thornton;….all the kids, teachers and parents were scared shitless of her.

A rampaging lion would have had doubts about taking her on.
Doctor_Wibble
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dix:
“Re the Black Death, heard some time ago that it could return.”

All because people don't do their recycling properly - feeding the rats by dumping pizza boxes still with half a pizza in them (encourages foxes too the noisy gits) and not rinsing out jars properly. You heard it here first, don't say I didn't warn you
bri160356
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by Doctor_Wibble:
“All because people don't do their recycling properly - feeding the rats by dumping pizza boxes still with half a pizza in them (encourages foxes too the noisy gits) and not rinsing out jars properly. You heard it here first, don't say I didn't warn you ”

You’ll be fine;

…you can set your ‘cauldron of badgers’ onto any Black Death infected rat that comes your way.
petertree
22-12-2016
I can remember having smallpox as several pricks in a circle which has left a scar, that was in the 50s but I had it again in 1977 to go to Hong Kong and it was the same. Mum had it the following year and developed one cow pox on her arm and was quite ill with it. I also knew two brothers who had cow pox following the jabs. Polio was a series of jabs, I remember that I was the right age when they decided 7 year olds should have a 4th one (I think it was 4) and the glass came away from the needle while the nurse was doing it and she gave me another full dose, so hopefully I'm immune now! I am so thankful that I was born at a time when medical advances were so good.
Dix
22-12-2016
Just found this artcle re Smallpox which I find interesting, have a read and see what you think

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/20...scheibner-phd/
Dix
22-12-2016
Reading the above article towards the end, surprised me a lot, as I never knew you could get MS, which can appear in later years! Some years ago I thought I had the symptoms of MS as my arms were suddenly affected! Didn't tell the doc, and hope they would improve but they haven't! But if the doc doesn't know one has had various vax when a kid, then he would be a skeptic about certain symptoms appearing when they weren't there before! Never thought of that one!!
Dix
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by petertree:
“I can remember having smallpox as several pricks in a circle which has left a scar, that was in the 50s but I had it again in 1977 to go to Hong Kong and it was the same. Mum had it the following year and developed one cow pox on her arm and was quite ill with it. I also knew two brothers who had cow pox following the jabs. Polio was a series of jabs, I remember that I was the right age when they decided 7 year olds should have a 4th one (I think it was 4) and the glass came away from the needle while the nurse was doing it and she gave me another full dose, so hopefully I'm immune now! I am so thankful that I was born at a time when medical advances were so good.”

What you're saying is that anyone who had jabs in the 50s say, and up to the 70's should be re-jabbed? If what that article says is true, then I think you're right, as advanced medicine is what we all should have. Thanks for telling us your story
fastzombie
22-12-2016
A couple of women on our estate carted a load of us kids down to the clinic. I was the only one who didn't cry. This was the one act of bravery in a life riven with craven cowardice.
Dix
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by fastzombie:
“A couple of women on our estate carted a load of us kids down to the clinic. I was the only one who didn't cry. This was the one act of bravery in a life riven with craven cowardice.”

Well done, you'll be ok for ever
Dix
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by bri160356:
“oh, I don’t know,..she was a formidable character old Mrs Thornton;….all the kids, teachers and parents were scared shitless of her.

A rampaging lion would have had doubts about taking her on.”

Oh, one of those types! Know that sort too as our head was like that, and a bit more. Long may she sleep in peace, amen

However my ma had a way with her, and she'd have got Mrs T eating out of her hand fast enough. Can see it now, 2 dragons stomping down the road!
Last edited by Dix : 22-12-2016 at 18:07
Dix
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by Doctor_Wibble:
“All because people don't do their recycling properly - feeding the rats by dumping pizza boxes still with half a pizza in them (encourages foxes too the noisy gits) and not rinsing out jars properly. You heard it here first, don't say I didn't warn you ”

Not me, as I rinse out everything before getting rid of it, even food trays. But I know someone who doesn't, and actually invites critters to her door, by chucked about peels, empty egg shells etc.If they happen to fall on the ground, they stay there!
Steve Pearce
22-12-2016
I didn't need to have the full TB jab at school as it turned out I had immunity already. This was possibly due to low-level exposure from an aunty who had had TB previously.
Laurel1ne
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by bri160356:
“However horrible the vaccinations were they were nothing compared to the diseases they prevented.

When I was a kid there was a young girl who lived across the road from me who’d survived Polio (infantile paralysis) but she was terribly deformed and could just about manage to move around very slowly (and painfully) on crutches.

It was a horrible, cruel and often fatal disease;….little wonder pre 1960’s parents were absolutely terrified of it.

A few ‘needle injections’ and most of us have been spared all manner of hideous diseases that were commonplace not that many years ago;

…nothing short of miraculous really.”

I'm just old enough to remember the last few survivors of Polio, my parents seemed to know lots of people of their age who'd succumbed and died of the wretched thing
Laurel1ne
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by Steve Pearce:
“I didn't need to have the full TB jab at school as it turned out I had immunity already. This was possibly due to low-level exposure from an aunty who had had TB previously.”

I didn't either because I too had the reaction, but try telling the US Immigration process that you already had immunity, either a very long argument with them which you'll always lose or just pay $50 have another TB jab

Ashenden
22-12-2016
Originally Posted by Laurel1ne:
“I'm just old enough to remember the last few survivors of Polio, my parents seemed to know lots of people of their age who'd succumbed and died of the wretched thing”


' Iron Lung' was a familiar term in my youth.
A while back I was curious enough to try and find out whether there were still iron lungs in operation - there aren't but I did come across a reference to the last person who did spend most of their life in such a huge contraption.
It was also sad to see young children in in callipers.
Laurel1ne
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dix:
“Reading the above article towards the end, surprised me a lot, as I never knew you could get MS, which can appear in later years! Some years ago I thought I had the symptoms of MS as my arms were suddenly affected! Didn't tell the doc, and hope they would improve but they haven't! But if the doc doesn't know one has had various vax when a kid, then he would be a skeptic about certain symptoms appearing when they weren't there before! Never thought of that one!!”

Careful with the "facts" on this site though, going back to the top you get

"Hundreds of medical doctors are here to tell you the truth about vaccines. Protect yourself and your children. Subscribe to periodic updates via e-mail"

So its facts may be highly selective
duckylucky
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dix:
“Reading the above article towards the end, surprised me a lot, as I never knew you could get MS, which can appear in later years! Some years ago I thought I had the symptoms of MS as my arms were suddenly affected! Didn't tell the doc, and hope they would improve but they haven't! But if the doc doesn't know one has had various vax when a kid, then he would be a skeptic about certain symptoms appearing when they weren't there before! Never thought of that one!!”

Are you by any chance on statins ? My BIL. Had weakness , numbness in the muscles of his upper arms and shoulders . It turned out to be a side effect of the statin he was on
AlphaK
23-12-2016
My younger sister wore a cage over her smallpox jab site to protect the scab it formed from rubbing or being picked as it healed. It looked like a circular open mesh tea strainer

A few years later my mother fastened flowers to it and attached it to the top of my sister's head as a small floral crown for a ballet display she did - there is photographic evidence but this memory is nearly 50 years old so small details could be incorrect.
eveningstar
23-12-2016
There was a smallpox epidemic in England/Wales in 1962, with queues of people building up for vaccination. I remember my mother taking us kids to the local school on a day the injections were available, we queued all around the playground with hundreds of others with mum worrying they'd run out of vaccine before we got our turn. When we finally got there the doctor refused to give me the injection because I suffered from asthma, I was delighted as I hated needles anyway.
cessna
23-12-2016
Many of us had the circular whitish scar in the 40's which so far as I can recall didn't hurt. However about 1941 there was a massive national immunization program for school kids to protect against the diphtheria scare that had broken out. This involved 2 injections, the second about a week later. It was quite unpleasant together with the sickly aroma as we entered the room set aside that I ran out of school and was scared to return the next day. . Somehow I was persuaded to go back for the 2nd one but it was quite an ordeal for a youngster of 8 years.
bri160356
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by cessna:
“Many of us had the circular whitish scar in the 40's which so far as I can recall didn't hurt. However about 1941 there was a massive national immunization program for school kids to protect against the diphtheria scare that had broken out. This involved 2 injections, the second about a week later. It was quite unpleasant together with the sickly aroma as we entered the room set aside that I ran out of school and was scared to return the next day. . Somehow I was persuaded to go back for the 2nd one but it was quite an ordeal for a youngster of 8 years.”

I was just reading about the diphtheria vaccine and evidently it was first developed in 1923 and was used widely (to great effect) in the USA throughout the 1920’s and ongoing;…however, the first vaccinations in the UK didn’t occur until 1941!...which ties in with your account.

My own grandmother died from diphtheria in 1933;…the diphtheria mortality rate for the under 5’s and the over 40’s was 20%,…I don’t know exactly how old my grandmother was when she died but I reckon she was 40’ish.

I wonder how many more of the UK’s men, women and children died between 1923 and 1941?...at a time when an effective vaccination was available ‘across the pond’.

…no doubt, as usual, it was down to economics.
anne_666
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by bri160356:
“…is this the needle (or needles!) you mean;….it was used for TB jabs years ago.

No wonder we were scarred (and scared!) for life. ”

I think that's the initial TB resistance tester. I think if your skin reacted to it you didn't need the vaccine. Might have been the other way round. I didn't need it.

In the 50's for small pox they put the vaccine onto the skin and then they scratched it hard a few times with a vaccination stylus. It hurt!
A scab formed, hence the scar and we had a cage like dressing to stop it being knocked off.
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