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CS- When will Phelen die?
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James_Langan
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“Just because you are a great fan of the nasty piece of work, you expect everyone to feel the same. There are some people whose moral compass is not easily swayed by characters like Phelan.”

My moral compass was corrupted by Donna65. I was willing to travel to that hospital and take care of business. I was ready to rip the intravenous out of him and unhook that wiring harness. All this while making sure his mouth was filled with scrambled egg so he couldn't be heard as I got my fingers around his neck and throttled him. But you have brought me to my senses, this Christmas homocide is not going to be on my list thanks to you. My moral compass remains intact and if Donna65s wants Phelan clipped she can either do it herself or find some other schmuck. Happy Christmas Bornfree and Donna65s it was fun.
callumfreeman
23-12-2016
Phelan is about to do another good deed, yet no doubt his haters will still spit bile and bad mouth him.

Spoiler
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-23/coronation-street-phelan-comes-to-annas-rescue
Donna65
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“Surely viewers are switching off for other reasons also. You aren't telling me people can sit through the other boring shite and yet Phelan is what gets them to turn off.”

For me yes. You obviously don't get the dislike (as if he were real!) that I and some others have for him. He makes my flesh crawl. I do not want to watch him and I don't find his storylines remotely entertaining. I have never felt the need to turn off before.
Cool_mate
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Donna65:
“For me yes. You obviously don't get the dislike (as if he were real!) that I and some others have for him. He makes my flesh crawl. I do not want to watch him and I don't find his storylines remotely entertaining. I have never felt the need to turn off before.”

ur same as me, he makes my skin crawl too, he's disgusting

he is easily one of the worst characters to ever b in the show (along with Macca and Clayton and Caz was crap too)

as a villain, i think i preferred Callum. yeah ok, he was a drug dealing thug and a piece of scum, and also Sean Ward was not really convincing as a villain, but at least Max could of redeemed Callum, he genuinely loved Max, and Kylie too. so maybe the writers could of changed Callum into a better person (they managed to redeem Kylie and Gemma)

Phelan on the other hand only cares about himself, he doesn't give a shit about Eileen and can never b redeemed

he is wayyy past his sell by date
James_Langan
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Donna65:
“For me yes. You obviously don't get the dislike (as if he were real!) that I and some others have for him. He makes my flesh crawl. I do not want to watch him and I don't find his storylines remotely entertaining. I have never felt the need to turn off before.”

I didn't realize it was affecting you so. I thought you enjoyed the outrageous outpouring of fun posts. I do have the impression you knew my posts were written as fun. I will not write anymore posts on the subject though. I would rather that than upset you. I would like to take this time to wish you a good and enjoyable Christmas.

James Langan
callumfreeman
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Cool_mate:
“ur same as me, he makes my skin crawl too, he's disgusting

he is easily one of the worst characters to ever b in the show (along with Macca and Clayton and Caz was crap too)

as a villain, i think i preferred Callum. yeah ok, he was a drug dealing thug and a piece of scum, and also Sean Ward was not really convincing as a villain, but at least Max could of redeemed Callum, he genuinely loved Max, and Kylie too. so maybe the writers could of changed Callum into a better person (they managed to redeem Kylie and Gemma)

Phelan on the other hand only cares about himself, he doesn't give a shit about Eileen and can never b redeemed

he is wayyy past his sell by date”

You are right. Callum got involved with the wrong crowd, and that was his life. But he could have turned things around, and to be honest I think he even had a little affection for David. Just the writers got out of control in the end. With a little guidance Callum could have developed into a decent young man, and it would have meant avoiding blackening the Platts with his death.
Kirk Angel
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by James_Langan:
“It more than that. Its a high tech lynching by computer and smartphone by the usual suspects. This is the reason Phelan didn't lay charges against Vinny for defrauding him out of his hard earned money. He doesn't want to be victimized again by a callous inept police force and even more hurtful, the silent treatment from non speaking extras. When his head gets better he can still hold it high. He may have lost his life savings but he hasn't lost his dignity. He should be a mentor for morons.”

There's no doubt about it, James. Our King sweats dignity. The way our King handled Vinny's betrayal was truly awe inspiring. If I ever have to deal with an immense betrayal like our King did....I'll be taking a leaf from his book.

Originally Posted by Cool_mate:
“ur same as me, he makes my skin crawl too, he's disgusting

he is easily one of the worst characters to ever b in the show (along with Macca and Clayton and Caz was crap too)

as a villain, i think i preferred Callum. yeah ok, he was a drug dealing thug and a piece of scum, and also Sean Ward was not really convincing as a villain, but at least Max could of redeemed Callum, he genuinely loved Max, and Kylie too. so maybe the writers could of changed Callum into a better person (they managed to redeem Kylie and Gemma)

Phelan on the other hand only cares about himself, he doesn't give a shit about Eileen and can never b redeemed

he is wayyy past his sell by date”

BiB1.....He loved them so much that he kept a gun near Max and put the mother of his only child back on drugs. Real love yeah!?

BiB2....Only the other week Eileen was losing her hearing and our King was so worried because he cared so much that he managed to get a doctors appointment and cure her hearing loss in ONE day. Now that's real love right there.

As for redemption....our King is putting the trauma of being robbed by a close friend to pay everyone back.
callumfreeman
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Donna65:
“For me yes. You obviously don't get the dislike (as if he were real!) that I and some others have for him. He makes my flesh crawl. I do not want to watch him and I don't find his storylines remotely entertaining. I have never felt the need to turn off before.”

I am aware of the dislike for Phelan and the constant abuse he receives on a daily basis for simple mistakes.

We have to accept he is a very mixed character. People like him and probably tune in because they find him refreshing over the henpecked, wet men, and some apparently tune out due to him being too unsettling. To be honest, I find his vileness a change compared to other villains and he has some good lines as well.
Donna65
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by James_Langan:
“I didn't realize it was affecting you so. I thought you enjoyed the outrageous outpouring of fun posts. I do have the impression you knew my posts were written as fun. I will not write anymore posts on the subject though. I would rather that than upset you. I would like to take this time to wish you a good and enjoyable Christmas.

James Langan”

James you do not upset me and I do realise that your posts are fun. Not everyone though, I suspect, is taking the mick as you do. All the "King Phelan" posts are, I realise, made tongue in cheek. There are, however, a number who actually enjoy his character and like a villain. Personally I do not, but that's just down to personal opinion.
broadshoulder
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Cool_mate:
“ur

he is wayyy past his sell by date”

Theres no chance of him being wayy past his sell by date unless the writers think he is

and there is no sign of that at the mo....
bornfree
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by James_Langan:
“My moral compass was corrupted by Donna65. I was willing to travel to that hospital and take care of business. I was ready to rip the intravenous out of him and unhook that wiring harness. All this while making sure his mouth was filled with scrambled egg so he couldn't be heard as I got my fingers around his neck and throttled him. But you have brought me to my senses, this Christmas homocide is not going to be on my list thanks to you. My moral compass remains intact and if Donna65s wants Phelan clipped she can either do it herself or find some other schmuck. Happy Christmas Bornfree and Donna65s it was fun.”

Merry Xmas to you too
davejc64
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Donna65:
“For me yes. You obviously don't get the dislike (as if he were real!) that I and some others have for him. He makes my flesh crawl. I do not want to watch him and I don't find his storylines remotely entertaining. I have never felt the need to turn off before.”

I do hope you are joking.
pollysue1939
24-12-2016
Well it is the pantomime season, we can all boo and hiss Phelan to our hearts content. I am getting bored with him myself. And I have lost all respect for Eileen who I used to love.
Janet43
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“Amazes me how the anti-Phelan brigade accuse him of being a nasty piece of work, yet condemn violence and making remarks like he deserves to have his head bashed in. ”

So if you saw a young child being abused or a helpless animal being beaten, neither of whom can fight back, you wouldn't want to do the same to the person doing it? I think most people would.

What Phelan does to the street residents is exactly the same - a thug, with absolutely no morals, making those who can't fight back for whatever reason suffer and making them want to the same to him as the only method of teaching him what it's like to be on the receiving end of his actions. People who normally live by reasonable standard can see no other method of stopping him. Understandable as the normal methods of encouraging people to live a life where they associate with others, like prison, would have absolutely no effect on him. If anything it would make him worse.

Most of those coming into the street that started off bad - Fiz, Kylie, Gemma, e.t.c. - come good but I can't see that happening to Phelan because he is mentally flawed in that he has no consideration whatsoever for other people - definitely something missing in his brain that can't be put right. He would make the type of father that produces bullying, thieving offspring who cause the social problems we have in society today.
davejc64
24-12-2016
Has Phelan actually been violent with anyone because I can't recall it if he has, most of the violence and threats of violence seem to be directed at him by others rather than him being violent or threatening violence.
Kirk Angel
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“So if you saw a young child being abused or a helpless animal being beaten, neither of whom can fight back, you wouldn't want to do the same to the person doing it? I think most people would.

What Phelan does to the street residents is exactly the same - a thug, with absolutely no morals, making those who can't fight back for whatever reason suffer and making them want to the same to him as the only method of teaching him what it's like to be on the receiving end of his actions. People who normally live by reasonable standard can see no other method of stopping him. Understandable as the normal methods of encouraging people to live a life where they associate with others, like prison, would have absolutely no effect on him. If anything it would make him worse.

Most of those coming into the street that started off bad - Fiz, Kylie, Gemma, e.t.c. - come good but I can't see that happening to Phelan because he is mentally flawed in that he has no consideration whatsoever for other people - definitely something missing in his brain that can't be put right. He would make the type of father that produces bullying, thieving offspring who cause the social problems we have in society today.”

I think you need to look up the definition of what a thug is.

Anna is not a helpless animal and Andy isn't an abused a child. In fact...those two are the real thugs.
Janet43
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Kirk Angel:
“I think you need to look up the definition of what a thug is.

Anna is not a helpless animal and Andy isn't an abused a child. In fact...those two are the real thugs.”

You miss the point. I was responding to Callumfreeman saying that people condemn violence yet make remarks like Phelan deserves to have his head bashed in, and explaining why normally passive people resort to violence.

They don't like what Phelan does and know that he would only respond to actions more aggressive than his own - violence - because he has something missing from his brain.

And if you really think that the characters Anna and Andy started out as thugs before being affected by Phelan, then I'd wonder about you as well.
davejc64
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“You miss the point. I was responding to Callumfreeman saying that people condemn violence yet make remarks like Phelan deserves to have his head bashed in, and explaining why normally passive people resort to violence.

They don't like what Phelan does and know that he would only respond to actions more aggressive than his own - violence - because he has something missing from his brain.”

I would say anyone who resorts to violence has got something missing from their brain, there are ways of dealing with things that don't involve using violence.
callumfreeman
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by davejc64:
“Has Phelan actually been violent with anyone because I can't recall it if he has, most of the violence and threats of violence seem to be directed at him by others rather than him being violent or threatening violence.”

In fact, Phelan only lashes back (but has the brains to use words rather than physical violence) when people bother him. He told Anna to stay out of his way and there would be no more trouble, but all she has done is keep pestering him. If Anna was such the poor, helpless victim some would view her as she wouldn't keep trying to push his buttons, such as smashing his van, inviting him round to the flat so Michael could raid his office, or sending poison pen letters.

Sorry, but Anna is a vile cretin. Don't forget she wasn't nice to Roy when her thug of a son tried to rob his cafe, yet kept shooting him dirty looks even though Roy allowed her to continue working at the cafe. She isn't a nice person, and only acts all mouth until someone stands their ground with her.
callumfreeman
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Most of those coming into the street that started off bad - Fiz, Kylie, Gemma, e.t.c. - come good but I can't see that happening to Phelan because he is mentally flawed in that he has no consideration whatsoever for other people - definitely something missing in his brain that can't be put right. He would make the type of father that produces bullying, thieving offspring who cause the social problems we have in society today.”

Sorry, but these characters never became good. Fiz defrauded a deceased pensioner and then helped her murderer husband dump a man's body in the canal.

Kylie was a vile murderer who helped cover up a man's death, allowed someone else to be blamed and planned a nice life away until her own life was brought to an end.

Maybe these two aren't as vile as Phelan, but at least he is more accepting he isn't a nice person, unlike other residents on the street that like to pretend they are somewhat perfect. I can't take anyone in the street seriously if they view Phelan as bad, yet can overlook the antics Tracy Barlow has gotten up to over the past 14 years and view her as "not such a bad person after all".
albiex
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“Surely viewers are switching off for other reasons also. You aren't telling me people can sit through the other boring shite and yet Phelan is what gets them to turn off.”

Mainly Phelan. For me Todd and Peter as well.

Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“Phelan is about to do another good deed, yet no doubt his haters will still spit bile and bad mouth him.

Spoiler
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-23/coronation-street-phelan-comes-to-annas-rescue
”

Strings (dirty great ropes!) attached.
Janet43
25-12-2016
Originally Posted by davejc64:
“I would say anyone who resorts to violence has got something missing from their brain, there are ways of dealing with things that don't involve using violence.”

So if you saw someone on thr ground having his head kicked, you'd either do nothing or go up to the perpetrator and "Would you please stop doing that?"

There are time when actual action is needed.

I say all power to a old lady locally who clumped a lad round the head with her handbag when she went into a shop and found him threatening a salesgirl with a knife.

Besides which the whole "King" Phelan "joke" is well past its sell-by day and now very boring. Even the writers can't think of anything else for the character except move from bullying one person to bullying another. That's got boring too.
Roger_Peters
25-12-2016
The sooner this panto character dies or leaves the street the happier I will be.

I find the character irritating, boring and very, very panto.
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