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Mike Read said in the Metro that the music scene is just rubbish now and music doesn't mean as much to people as it did up to about the mid 90s.
Do you agree? I tend to actually. He also said there are good singers who think they are songwriters but aren't. |
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id put it the mid 00's actually, mike misses out the zenith of the dance scene, uk garage, the indie/rock scene of the early 00's which id argue was meaningful to people.
but in general id agree.... ive often banged on about the lack of new exciting genres in music nowdays, like there was in the past. i dont get the sense that todays younger generation care as much about creating great new music as they/we once did. no doubt the naysayers will contradict this blaming 'modern technology'. todays young seem more keen on listening to music, old music too, then creating their own. mike read shouldnt be ignored as a boring old fart who is out of touch, i reckon he has a valied point. |
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He might have a point, though it sounds like an older generation dissing the younger generation. Having said that, I once sung Mike Read, Mike Read, 275 and 285 on a plane 😁 But he was wrong about Relax.
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But he was wrong about Relax.
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id put it the mid 00's actually, mike misses out the zenith of the dance scene, uk garage, the indie/rock scene of the early 00's which id argue was meaningful to people.
but in general id agree.... ive often banged on about the lack of new exciting genres in music nowdays, like there was in the past. i dont get the sense that todays younger generation care as much about creating great new music as they/we once did. no doubt the naysayers will contradict this blaming 'modern technology'. todays young seem more keen on listening to music, old music too, then creating their own. mike read shouldnt be ignored as a boring old fart who is out of touch, i reckon he has a valied point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYOBZ3Seeio |
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I'd agree, but then I'm a boring old fart.
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Mike Read said in the Metro that the music scene is just rubbish now and music doesn't mean as much to people as it did up to about the mid 90s.
Do you agree? I tend to actually. He also said there are good singers who think they are songwriters but aren't. |
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Mike Read said in the Metro that the music scene is just rubbish now and music doesn't mean as much to people as it did up to about the mid 90s.
Do you agree? I tend to actually. He also said there are good singers who think they are songwriters but aren't. |
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id put it the mid 00's actually, mike misses out the zenith of the dance scene, uk garage, the indie/rock scene of the early 00's which id argue was meaningful to people.
but in general id agree.... ive often banged on about the lack of new exciting genres in music nowdays, like there was in the past. i dont get the sense that todays younger generation care as much about creating great new music as they/we once did. no doubt the naysayers will contradict this blaming 'modern technology'. todays young seem more keen on listening to music, old music too, then creating their own. mike read shouldnt be ignored as a boring old fart who is out of touch, i reckon he has a valied point. |
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id put it the mid 00's actually, mike misses out the zenith of the dance scene, uk garage, the indie/rock scene of the early 00's which id argue was meaningful to people.
but in general id agree.... ive often banged on about the lack of new exciting genres in music nowdays, like there was in the past. Quote:
i dont get the sense that todays younger generation care as much about creating great new music as they/we once did. no doubt the naysayers will contradict this blaming 'modern technology'. todays young seem more keen on listening to music, old music too, then creating their own.
mike read shouldnt be ignored as a boring old fart who is out of touch, i reckon he has a valied point. I would suggest that the OP/Read are right to say that pop music doesn't mean as much to the snowflake generation who are more interested in progressing in society than trying to change it. That inevitably changes the soundtrack of that generation and it is reflected in the music that populates the charts and indeed beyond. However, the current no 1 is about single motherhood as empowering with a catchy chorus and the no 1 single before that by LIttle Mix was about modern girls not being inhibited by failed relationships. So, it's not all bad, is it? |
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This coming from someone who was never what I would call a real music fan and was deeply despised by music fans in his hey day? He is certainly no Bob Harris.
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lol... ok,....
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I would agree about the time being the 00s, Grime being the last meaningful musical movement/scene rather than being another 'genre'.
You have said and it is true that modern pop music is more skillfully and professionally constructed than the pop music of the past which probably had more energy and creativity (in a general sense). I would suggest that the OP/Read are right to say that pop music doesn't mean as much to the snowflake generation who are more interested in progressing in society than trying to change it. That inevitably changes the soundtrack of that generation and it is reflected in the music that populates the charts and indeed beyond. However, the current no 1 is about single motherhood as empowering with a catchy chorus and the no 1 single before that by LIttle Mix was about modern girls not being inhibited by failed relationships. So, it's not all bad, is it? there are some 'classy' meaningful tracks amongst the generic dross, perhaps whats missing now isnt a great pop song so much as a movement for the younger generation to get behind. is it possible that past movements made it appear that the music was 'better', but in reality wasnt that much different?... i dunno... |
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i dont recognise the mike read you describe here.
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This coming from someone who was never what I would call a real music fan and was deeply despised by music fans in his hey day? He is certainly no Bob Harris.
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I recall he once spoke out against badger baiting when I was listening to him on the radio in the 80s, so he's a good chappy.
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Met him a couple of times back in his Radio One heyday...........arrogant tosser
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Well enough said really then?
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Read has an encyclopedic knowledge of pop music though being a founder editor of the Guinness Book of Hit Singles, I believe.
i guess though its down to personal taste with dj's.... i personally cannot abide tony blackburn, despite his pedigree. |
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I recall he once spoke out against badger baiting when I was listening to him on the radio in the 80s, so he's a good chappy.
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Didn't he die a few years ago?
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Didn't he die a few years ago?
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You're thinking of the Mike Reid, the stand-up comedian, who also played Frank Butcher in Eastenders.
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Read has an encyclopedic knowledge of pop music though being a founder editor of the Guinness Book of Hit Singles, I believe.
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I don't know how much Mike Read knows about the current music scene to conclude that it is rubbish. I don't know how much he ever knew about the music scene. Maybe he has strong recollection of top forty hits but would he have had much knowledge of what John Peel or Andy Peebles or Ranking Miss P or Gary Kershaw or Tommy Vance or Robbie Vincent were playing on Radio One back in the 80's?
What is the music scene anyway? Everything, or just the pop chart? To many, it seems to be the charts only. It seems to me that it is more a case of music SCENES rather than one scene and the mainstream soundtrack (the top forty) was a place where some of these scenes would meet. Now in 2016, not so much. The diversity of genres don't seem to penetrate the mainstream as they once did. Many people are getting involved in creating music thanks to (often) free software that they use on their computers. I doubt this was so much of a phenomenon 20 years ago. There are also platforms to upload to so others can get to hear it and share it. Much of this music will be created within a DAW, using plugins exclusively, due to a lack of access to live musicians, so this will influence what music is created. That is, music is being made by people who perviously might not have been creating; traditionally most activity would have been due to people purchasing instruments and hooking up to jam / form bands etc. We can all complain about music in 2016 - I do it myself - but anyone who wishes to and has the knowledge can make a strong case for it not being rubbish. I'm aware of contemporary music that is very far from rubbish and I'm sure many people who follow various scenes would agree. Mike Read (and the rest of those daytime Radio One personality jocks: Simon Bates, Steve Wright etc.) had no credibility back in the 80's with serious music listeners. They were considered to be the height of 'naff' and just mixed throwaway chit chat with play-listed chart music on their shows; dialling it in for the pay check. The sight of them on TOTP was cringe-worthy. I'm not sure who the "good singers who think they are songwriters but aren't" refers to. Artists seem to get props now only if they write their own material so I suppose the pressure is on to show that you do, even if the songs aren't that strong. Certainly a few high profile pop stars steal writing credits - only agreeing to record songwriters work if they get their names on the list. |
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You're thinking of the Mike Reid, the stand-up comedian, who also played Frank Butcher in Eastenders.
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wasn't he on radio 1 aswell?
If you mean, was he a disc jockey on Radio 1, the answer is no. He just has the same name as a former Radio 1 disc jockey (the subject of this thread), albeit spelt in a different way. |
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