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amelia_lee

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by Huph:
“I do not think I am being naive for thinking Jay has nothing to do with the negativity towards Ore. And I will eyeroll all I want, don't need you to police my posts.

The jive was week 3 and yes some Jay fans were up in arms at the comparisons. Jay personally couldn't give a damn (his dad said on twitter that Jay was pleased for Ore(.

The negativity grew as the series went on and was more to do with mean spirited people. Nothing whatsoever to do with Jay.”

Not Jay, but the die hard fans took against Ore online after that and it continued from then on. Coupled with a few other reasons, but Jay is a big one for some online hate of Ore.

MACTOWIN

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“It is a little naive to think it has nothing to do with Jay and to eyeroll the thought of it.

I say this as a lot of the negativity started after Ore's jive and the remarks that came afterwards from the judges, so they are not completely unrelated.”

I disliked Jay and Ore what does that mean.

Huph

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Not Jay, but the die hard fans took against Ore online after that and it continued from then on. Coupled with a few other reasons, but Jay is a big one for some online hate of Ore.”

Maybe some Jay fans took against Ore because of the jive but that is only a small part of it. IMO Ore brought a lot of it on himself by acting the way he did.

Jay personally is not responsible for the negativity shown towards Ore.

Anyway this thread is about Ore not Jay so I will just leave it there.

hansue

27-12-2016

I'm a Jay fan and I don't like Ore but that has nothing to do with it. I didn't like Ore from very early on in the series and I didn't think - oh I don't like him because I like Jay and I think its ridiculous to suggest that the majority of Jay fans think this way. I'm sure you can like both and its not an either or.

The only reason Jay's name has been dragged into this is that someone posted a picture of Jay playing the boy in BIG jumping on his bed with a pair of patterned Y fronts just to compare it with the Ore selfie.

I do agree that it is possible that some people turned against Ore when Len made that ridiculous remark comparing Ore's jive to Jay's.

katmobile

27-12-2016

I'm sure some fans of Jay's hated the fact that Jay's got compared to Ore's and took against Ore for those reasons - cheers Len you really prompted harmony there

However I'm sure some were fans of both and thought the whole comparison was ridiculous and some people never liked either of them and thought both jives were utterly over-rated - remember Scott Maslin/Jill Halfpenny/Alesha Dixon/Louisa Lytton/insert name of other fav jiving celeb here.

You don't have to a Jay fan to have disliked Ore or have disliked Ore because you were a Jay fan.

katmobile

27-12-2016

I'm sure Jay appreciated people being reminded of it - doesn't hurt does it.

katmobile

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by Fee77:
“My thoughts exactly.”

I feel a bit like that too actually.

katmobile

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“Well, there's not much scope for comparison this year other than Danny and Greg Rutherford* who, by the way, is another great fan of semi naked selfies - and thank heavens for that too
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOVVbNLj...regjrutherford
I could have said Greg but Danny's name just come up since he was being mentioned earlier in topic.

ETA:* unless Rinder and Ed Balls appeal to you; to me, they certainly do not (with all due respect)”

Which is odd because his comments on ITT about Paso costuming seemed to indicate he was a bit self-concious about his waist area. Oh well maybe it's to do with control of the camera angle to speak.

Danny was happy to appear topless in character but as with everything else the guy seems a bit shy when it comes to exposing himself as himself which is fair enough.

katmobile

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by bornfree:
“I'd forgotten all about Andrew Ridgley. George Michael moves . I always had a very soft spot for GM. Never realised he was gay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNX3xA3wx5c”

It's funny because there were rumours all through the 90s but what surprised me about the LA incident is it revealed he still had a sense of humour I'd thought that disapeared years ago. Ironic when you posted that - RIP George you will be missed.

shamrock_17

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by Gill P:
“I too am glad he has no tattoos. I do hope the fashion dies out soon.”

Oh yes please, along with the sidecuts/undercuts and the wood gnome beards (don't mind a 3-4-5-days-stubble though).

Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I disliked Jay and Ore what does that mean.”

You have a heart of stone.

katmobile

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“He appears to be now claiming he did it to inspire people to take up dancing and get fit which is just hilarious to me. Sounds like the missus has had a word and had a flush-out of his DMs.

(Disclaimer : this selfie does nothing for me because he's too muscular but I don't see any problem with it in this series where I recall at some point seeing every male contestant with their top off at some point except Will Young)”

Really?! I missed that - there were a few open or partially open shirts but only JR actually ever went topless as far as I can remember. I'm not the most observant but I was studying carefully

Nakatomi

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by bornfree:
“Some people have really got it in for Ore. Wonder why?”

Oh are you really going to play that card? That we're all racists? Why the universal love for Danny and Oti (South African who grew up during the Apartheid?) or the fact many of us loved Alesha, or Ricky Whittle? A lot of us were sad to see Melvin go week 1 too.

The reason we don't like Ore is because he is incredibly smug and he came off as knowing exactly what he was doing - he didn't seem genuine at all. It then became more obvious that the BBC were really pushing him to win and would ruin anybody else's chances to do so.

katmobile

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“See, the thing is it shows that humble Ore was all just a sham.

You don't see Danny or AJ doing it. They only get their kit off in a professional capacity, like Danny's was for a calendar shoot for charity.”

Apparently on ITT AJ was revealed as the vainest pro with a nickname of Mr Selfie so yes I can see AJ doing it - don't let the baby face fool ya

Nakatomi

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by katmobile:
“Really?! I missed that - there were a few open or partially open shirts but only JR actually ever went topless as far as I can remember. I'm not the most observant but I was studying carefully ”

I don't remember Ed Balls going shirtless either. I'd have definitely remembered that...

Nakatomi

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by katmobile:
“Apparently on ITT AJ was revealed as the vainest pro with a nickname of Mr Selfie so yes I can see AJ doing it - don't let the baby face fool ya ”

Oh I don't doubt he'd do a selfie. It's the shirtless selfie thing that is a bit weird!

Huph

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by katmobile:
“I feel a bit like that too actually.”

Totally agree, those veins are horrible - imo

katmobile

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“That's probably different, for the people complaining because Greg didn't beat their fave. But no, Ore posted a pic with his shirt off so it must be lurid and suggestive and sleazy instead of the same as others do. We won't go into the other reasons why it's maybe different and bad when he does it for some.

Ore never once claimed he was shy - the guy presents live TV for a living, that doesn't lead itself towards being shy but you know what, even if he had, a standard selfie that most people his age takes wouldn't be hypocritical. The fact that he's had to apologise because some pathetic, bitter pearl clutchers were awful is the most upsetting thing about this whole situ.”

I agree it's a bit of a storm in a teacup isn't it?

katmobile

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“So you don't think the constant "Oh I've never danced before", "I just do sports" and "I didn't even dance at my wedding!" and the constant crocodile tears whenever he got praise were him pushing a certain storyline?

And as I said - I'd have been happy for Claudia to win too, who was an excellent dancer and was the only person who rivaled Danny in actual skill and ability.

I'm really over the fact that Danny didn't win because I know he's going to have a longer and better career and everybody with a brain knows he was robbed. At least Danny and Claudia didn't have to rely on pure manipulation and lying. And even though I dislike Kevin, I'll admit Louise didn't have to rely on falseness either. Even though she had prior training I genuinely do think she was quite shy and became slightly more comfortable.”

They'll both do fine out of this both Ore and Danny and frankly good luck to them - they both entertained us and worked their socks off doing and that's what it's all about.

katmobile

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I mean, if we're talking fake and phony and whatnot, then a guy who's spent a large proportion of his public professional career shirtless (and won awards for it) suddenly claiming that he can't POSSIBLY do a shirtless rumba because he has STANDARDS don'tcha know seems more inconsistant than Ore getting carried away under the public adulation and wanting to inspire a few faps for Christmas.

To me.”

In fairness he has said that he is fine doing things in the guise of a character but has trouble presenting himself. I think the problem was that he had to talk to Tess with his shirt open and you do see this in the samba in the final where he's fine throwing himself around open shirted on the dancefloor and in the Claudautrium he's holding his shirt closed.

hansue

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“Oh are you really going to play that card? That we're all racists? Why the universal love for Danny and Oti (South African who grew up during the Apartheid?) or the fact many of us loved Alesha, or Ricky Whittle? A lot of us were sad to see Melvin go week 1 too.

The reason we don't like Ore is because he is incredibly smug and he came off as knowing exactly what he was doing - he didn't seem genuine at all. It then became more obvious that the BBC were really pushing him to win and would ruin anybody else's chances to do so.”

Exactly.

katmobile

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by rebecca87:
“What I've taken from this thread is I really need to follow more Strictly men on Instagram .”

LOL

postit

27-12-2016

Originally Posted by bornfree
Some people have really got it in for Ore. Wonder why?

It's a cause of unending fascination to me to see how people's minds work. How on earth did you make the jump from Bornfree's post to racism?

Incidentally, Oti was born in August 1990, apartheid legislation abolished almost exactly one year later, so your phrase 'grew up during the apartheid' is not only inflammatory but skirting the truth.

gorlagon

27-12-2016

I was neutral on Jay. Having liked Helen and Anita most in the series, I didn't care who won the final. I did thoroughly enjoy his jive, however.

I didn't much like Ore, mostly because I had fancied him before Strictly and the show revealed him to be a bit of a needy type, which always puts me off contestants in the show. I did thoroughly enjoy his jive, however.

I quite like the selfie in one way - Ore is hot, he looks hot in the photo, and, y'know, I'm not averse to a bit of hotness. I quite dislike the selfie in another way - it's low rent and more evidence of love-me-love-me attention-seeking neediness, in the way that put me off him in the first place.

How's that for fence sitting?!

bornfree

28-12-2016

What card? Did I even mention racism? Where the hell are you getting the ism from? May be you have something to hide. Why jump on something I have not even said.

bornfree

28-12-2016

Originally Posted by postit:
“Originally Posted by bornfree
Some people have really got it in for Ore. Wonder why?

It's a cause of unending fascination to me to see how people's minds work. How on earth did you make the jump from Bornfree's post to racism?

Incidentally, Oti was born in August 1990, apartheid legislation abolished almost exactly one year later, so your phrase 'grew up during the apartheid' is not only inflammatory but skirting the truth.”

Thank you.

I was wondering about that too.

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