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Old 24-12-2016, 09:58
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You're so blinded by righteous indigation that your appointed dancer didn't win that you're getting your dancers mixed up. Claudia, Louise and even Danny all acknowledged that their confidence had grown. IIRC Ore never expressed anything rather than gratitude to Jo and to those who voted for him.
So you don't think the constant "Oh I've never danced before", "I just do sports" and "I didn't even dance at my wedding!" and the constant crocodile tears whenever he got praise were him pushing a certain storyline?

And as I said - I'd have been happy for Claudia to win too, who was an excellent dancer and was the only person who rivaled Danny in actual skill and ability.

I'm really over the fact that Danny didn't win because I know he's going to have a longer and better career and everybody with a brain knows he was robbed. At least Danny and Claudia didn't have to rely on pure manipulation and lying. And even though I dislike Kevin, I'll admit Louise didn't have to rely on falseness either. Even though she had prior training I genuinely do think she was quite shy and became slightly more comfortable.
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Old 24-12-2016, 09:59
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You're so blinded by righteous indigation that your appointed dancer didn't win that you're getting your dancers mixed up. Claudia, Louise and even Danny all acknowledged that their confidence had grown. IIRC Ore never expressed anything rather than gratitude to Jo and to those who voted for him.
^^ exactly.

I wonder why they're lying, is it to fit their agenda and their version of history
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Old 24-12-2016, 09:59
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That's probably different, for the people complaining because Greg didn't beat their fave.

Ore never once claimed he was shy - the guy presents live TV for a living, that doesn't lead itself towards being shy but you know what, even if he had, a standard selfie that most people his age takes wouldn't be hypocritical. The fact that he's had to apologise because some pathetic, bitter pearl clutchers were awful is the most upsetting thing about this whole situ.
As I said before demographics is everything these days. To dismiss those of us who are sick of this "put it out there" culture as pearl clutching just shows how shallow things have become.

Maybe Louise had the right idea.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:02
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I don't remember Ore claiming to be shy either

I do however, remember Danny flashing his abs in the Samba, but have no recollection of Ore exposing his body at any time during dances.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:03
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You're so blinded by righteous indigation that your appointed dancer didn't win that you're getting your dancers mixed up. Claudia, Louise and even Danny all acknowledged that their confidence had grown. IIRC Ore never expressed anything rather than gratitude to Jo and to those who voted for him.
Quite!

Some people are so blinded by their own bitterness they've forgotten what actually happened on the show. Ore was never shy!

It's an amazing study in psychology to see how people can twist things so much if it doesn't meet their own agenda.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:04
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So you don't think the constant "Oh I've never danced before", "I just do sports" and "I didn't even dance at my wedding!" and the constant crocodile tears whenever he got praise were him pushing a certain storyline?
but he has never done any dance training before strictly.
Yes he only does sports, Hockey and Rugby IIRC & he had never dance at his wedding.

Up until the final Ore only cried TWICE, not exactly constantly
Len and all the Finalist cried that night and even the Pro's, so why single out Ore ?

Oooop's I forgot he won over your favourite
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:04
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I don't remember Ore claiming to be shy either

I do however, remember Danny flashing his abs in the Samba, but have no recollection of Ore exposing his body at any time during dances.
Could you imagine Joanne even contemplating him doing so.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:05
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but he has never done any dance training before strictly.
Yes he only does sports, Hockey and Rugby IIRC & he had never did dance at his wedding.

Up until the final Ore only cried TWICE, not exactly constantly
Len and all the Finalist cried that night and even the Pro's, so why single out Ore ?

Oooop's I forgot he won over your favourite
Would not tell Arlene that her choreography did not involve some dance training.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:06
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I don't remember Ore claiming to be shy either

I do however, remember Danny flashing his abs in the Samba, but have no recollection of Ore exposing his body at any time during dances.
Read above. Ore claimed be shy lots.

As for Danny, Oti had to persuade him and she actually wanted him to go fully shirtless but he said no.

I mean, look at Ore here: http://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/44/...ore-joanne.jpg

and it's hardly different to Danny's outfit: http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...Mac-736886.jpg

Other than Danny's being open at the bottom.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:06
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I think we should just all agree that it's a spectacularly tacky selfie in a world of spectacularly tacky selfies because spectacularly tacky selfies are the fashion AND that Ore looks spectacularly hot in it.

It's just performance, chaps. The entire point of a celebrity Instagram account is to have your pictures mined by the tabloids and get an article written about you. If the resulting article is positive, you preen. If it's negative, you apologise and get your name in a second article for the apology. It's a win-win for Ore.

I think the only unanswered question is what did he buy himself for Christmas if his Christmas shopping was spent in changing rooms?
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:08
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but he has never done any dance training before strictly.
Yes he only does sports, Hockey and Rugby IIRC & he had never dance at his wedding.

Up until the final Ore only cried TWICE, not exactly constantly
Len and all the Finalist cried that night and even the Pro's, so why single out Ore ?

Oooop's I forgot he won over your favourite
Oh what utter rubbish. Ore cried loads, even Claudia made jokes about it.

Again, I'm over Danny losing. I'd have preferred Claudia, Judge Rinder or Ed Balls to win it if Danny couldn't. Ore had to rely on fakeness to win.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:08
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So you don't think the constant "Oh I've never danced before", "I just do sports" and "I didn't even dance at my wedding!" and the constant crocodile tears whenever he got praise were him pushing a certain storyline?

And as I said - I'd have been happy for Claudia to win too, who was an excellent dancer and was the only person who rivaled Danny in actual skill and ability.

I'm really over the fact that Danny didn't win because I know he's going to have a longer and better career and everybody with a brain knows he was robbed. At least Danny and Claudia didn't have to rely on pure manipulation and lying. And even though I dislike Kevin, I'll admit Louise didn't have to rely on falseness either. Even though she had prior training I genuinely do think she was quite shy and became slightly more comfortable.
BIB - Technically she wasn't bar her QS.

BIB and Italics - How could you possibly know that? You don't. He wasn't robbed at all, he was outdanced/performed on the night and this is coming from someone who prefers to watch Danny dance.

More importantly why wish the worst on a celeb in and dance entertainment show?
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:10
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Oh what utter rubbish. Ore cried loads, even Claudia made jokes about it.

Again, I'm over Danny losing. I'd have preferred Claudia, Judge Rinder or Ed Balls to win it if Danny couldn't. Ore had to rely on fakeness to win.
& I am calling BS

Merry Xmas

For someone is so over Danny losing to Ore you seem to bring it up a lot
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:14
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Read above. Ore claimed be shy lots.

As for Danny, Oti had to persuade him and she actually wanted him to go fully shirtless but he said no.

I mean, look at Ore here: http://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/44/...ore-joanne.jpg

and it's hardly different to Danny's outfit: http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...Mac-736886.jpg

Other than Danny's being open at the bottom.
Where? I see only claims on here. No links.

And yes, there's absolutely no difference between Ore having a few buttons undone whilst Danny had his shirt completely open whilst thrashing about like a man possessed. And I really doubt Oti had to do much persuading. See, |I can make spurious claims too
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:23
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Read above. Ore claimed be shy lots.

As for Danny, Oti had to persuade him and she actually wanted him to go fully shirtless but he said no.

I mean, look at Ore here: http://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/44/...ore-joanne.jpg

and it's hardly different to Danny's outfit: http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...Mac-736886.jpg

Other than Danny's being open at the bottom.
I really don't understand your point here. One - Ore - is wearing a typical bog standard latin shirt in the same style that you see up and down the country each week in competition. The other - far from being " open at the bottom " is not done up at all. I really didn't like the open shirt flapping around, added to the already frantic look of the dance.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:27
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Oh what utter rubbish. Ore cried loads, even Claudia made jokes about it.

Again, I'm over Danny losing. I'd have preferred Claudia, Judge Rinder or Ed Balls to win it if Danny couldn't. Ore had to rely on fakeness to win.
The right dancer won - the person who received more votes. I don't see that you can say Ore was fake...he seemed a lovely guy to me, but then I don't know him, I presume you do? If he was fake, well, he fooled an awful lot of people to vote for him.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:34
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Where? I see only claims on here. No links.

And yes, there's absolutely no difference between Ore having a few buttons undone whilst Danny had his shirt completely open whilst thrashing about like a man possessed. And I really doubt Oti had to do much persuading. See, |I can make spurious claims too
I'm sure your claims are nearer the truth than that poster

Anything Danny said I took with a pinch of salt. Oti and Danny were trying hard to play down his prior professional dance training. I just didn't buy this suffering with major nerves & his shyness to reveal his torso for his Samba.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:35
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I mean, if we're talking fake and phony and whatnot, then a guy who's spent a large proportion of his public professional career shirtless (and won awards for it) suddenly claiming that he can't POSSIBLY do a shirtless rumba because he has STANDARDS don'tcha know seems more inconsistant than Ore getting carried away under the public adulation and wanting to inspire a few faps for Christmas.

To me.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:37
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I mean, if we're talking fake and phony and whatnot, then a guy who's spent a large proportion of his public professional career shirtless (and won awards for it) suddenly claiming that he can't POSSIBLY do a shirtless rumba because he has STANDARDS don'tcha know seems more inconsistant than Ore getting carried away under the public adulation and wanting to inspire a few faps for Christmas.

To me.
Has he? I used to watch Hollyoaks and can count his shirtless scenes on one hand. Again, it was in a professional capacity.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:38
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That's probably different, for the people complaining because Greg didn't beat their fave. But no, Ore posted a pic with his shirt off so it must be lurid and suggestive and sleazy instead of the same as others do. We won't go into the other reasons why it's maybe different and bad when he does it for some.

Ore never once claimed he was shy - the guy presents live TV for a living, that doesn't lead itself towards being shy but you know what, even if he had, a standard selfie that most people his age takes wouldn't be hypocritical. The fact that he's had to apologise because some pathetic, bitter pearl clutchers were awful is the most upsetting thing about this whole situ.
I think it's naff and a bit sad when anyone spends time standing on their own taking pics of themselves in their pants to post online to get validation from a load of strangers. That includes Greg and any other celebs who do it. I didn't see Ore say why he apologised - did he actually say it was because bitter pearl clutchers/Danny fans were awful? Loads of celebs get criticised all the time for posting vain pics online but they don't usually feel the need to issue a public apology. Maybe he just realised for himself that it's a bit of an embarrassing thing to do.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:39
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I'm sure your claims are nearer the truth than that poster

Anything Danny said I took with a pinch of salt. Oti and Danny were trying hard to play down his prior professional dance training. I just didn't buy this suffering with major nerves & his shyness to reveal his torso for his Samba.
The torso was nothing to do with the shyness, he just didn't want to do it at first. He is quite a nervous person though and I think you can tell that sometimes. Even his friends said he's really quiet in real life and not at all how you'd expect him to be, seeing as he's an actor. Judge Rinder is the same apparently - very theatrical on telly and is used to obviously being the centre of attention in court as most barristers are, but in real life quite shy and reserved.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:39
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Would not tell Arlene that her choreography did not involve some dance training.
I think Arlene was just watching.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:40
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I'm sure your claims are nearer the truth than that poster

Anything Danny said I took with a pinch of salt. Oti and Danny were trying hard to play down his prior professional dance training. I just didn't buy this suffering with major nerves & his shyness to reveal his torso for his Samba.
Nah...I think Danny was just as genuine as Ore is. Do I think it was an ordeal for him to dance open-shirted? No. Do I think that he would rather have been seen as more than just the good looking actor? Definitely. I don't think Danny's ~~~~reluctance had anything to do with modesty rather than the desire to change his image a bit.

Danny is a lovely, talented, decent guy. I don't think a vocal minority of his so called fans are any real reflection on him, no matter how they try and project onto him.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:40
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Has he? I used to watch Hollyoaks and can count his shirtless scenes on one hand. Again, it was in a professional capacity.
The rumba would have been in a professional capacity.
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Old 24-12-2016, 10:41
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I think it's naff and a bit sad when anyone spends time standing on their own taking pics of themselves in their pants to post online to get validation from a load of strangers. That includes Greg and any other celebs who do it. I didn't see Ore say why he apologised - did he actually say it was because bitter pearl clutchers/Danny fans were awful? Loads of celebs get criticised all the time for posting vain pics online but they don't usually feel the need to issue a public apology. Maybe he just realised for himself that it's a bit of an embarrassing thing to do.
I agree. It's nothing to do with him winning over Danny - I'd have thought it sleazy if Danny had done it too.

I wouldn't have objected if it had been a "here's how I looked before 3 months of dancing" and "here's how I look now" sort of thing, but it just came off as totally sleazy and egotistical. Like he saw himself in the mirror and thought "Oh I look good, let's take a picture!"
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