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Old 23-12-2016, 12:18
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See, im a leftie. And i understand that in university its best to hear from i wide variety of voices.

But, tatchell and greer are both dreadful people. Awful, awful people.
Just a shame that many Universities and a greater number of students (mainly in America) don't agree with this and only want to hear voices that support their beliefs. They don't want their beliefs challenged because that would mean they would actually need to use their intelligence and the ability to think for themselves.

It really is crazy that Universities have become places that no longer challenge peoples beliefs but just act to prop up peoples existing and often wrong beliefs.
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:19
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Well, that particular saying was always a load of nonsense! And it's not realistic to claim that an entire generation were taught in this way, and that they all turned out to be "snowflakes".
i worked in schools... i have kids and a partner who are 'snowflakes' , i know how in general this generation was taught. of course there was variation, and not everyone taught like that turned out to be snowflakes.

It's possible to recognise that the term is generally used by morons while not being upset by the word snowflake.

So your laughter is based on your falsehood.
i use the term, im not a 'moron' thank you, i think the term snowflake describes a certain type of person accurately, as im a 'boomer' etc. there certainly IS a lot of young people who are easily offended, dont like and cant cope with opposing views, throw tantrums when they dont get their own way. they are spoilt brats.


I've never understood this millennial thing. How can someone born before the millenium be a millenial? I thought you had to have been born from 2000 onwards. After all it was the turn of the millennium.

So glad I have fallen out of that bracket to not have that label. 1980.
yeah i know, but i didnt create the term nor the generation it pertains too

the definition i saw mentioned the dates i posted 1981 - 1997. i have no idea what the generation 1997 onwards is!.
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:19
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What is so awful about them?
They don't take transgender issues seriously enough, or as seriously as a vocal minority think they should, so are naturaly traitors and the worse kind of scum.
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:21
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It's possible to recognise that the term is generally used by morons while not being upset by the word snowflake.

So your laughter is based on your falsehood.
Not really no. My laughter was based on people throwing around insults like "obnoxious tw*ts" and "morons" because they were offended by the word "snowflake" and them not seeing the irony or double standard in their own words.
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:22
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Don't go on YouTube to look for these kinds of video.

You'll miss Christmas, New Year, Easter and most of 2017.
Haha! Youtube can be just as trashful as your main news channels. Sometimes I cannot tell the difference as they're agitators and instigators, trolling for trollers to troll to report it to whip up a storm so they can report on a story. To then tell you tweet us in your thoughts for why this is happening. Petrol, flame. #debate

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Old 23-12-2016, 12:25
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A few years ago I think that the phrase used would have been, "Ahhh, the poor little darlings."
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:27
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Was this little box created by the same dinosaurs who've been blaming foreigners for everything? Which group will they blame next... come on... I'm sure we can invent the name before we work out who to throw in it... Oh, I know... idiots. Let's call the people we don't agree with idiots. Far simpler, and no need to keep coming up with ridiculous ways to herd people together. I'll happily live in the box too. Unlike the people who like to label... I know what I am... an idiot.
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:28
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"Snowflake" was the name which Bill Reynolds (Rudolph Walker) gave Eddie (Jack Smethurst) in Love Thy Neighbour. He also called him "White Honky".
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...42059868,d.ZWM

That was in the days when we could laugh about race and all it involved. When we could call a black person 'Sambo' and they found it funny! The term 'Snowflake' holds no other meaning for me.
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:28
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yeah i know, but i didnt create the term nor the generation it pertains too

the definition i saw mentioned the dates i posted 1981 - 1997. i have no idea what the generation 1997 onwards is!.
Just been looking it up. Generation Z is 97 onwards. Hmm, iGeneration. Never heard that one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:35
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A few years ago I think that the phrase used would have been, "Ahhh, the poor little darlings."
"Your son / daughter is special"
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:45
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Ash is a well known member who hates debate and not accepting other peoples points of view unless it ties in with their own. Labelling them racists or anything she doesn't agree with. All you have to do is look at the post history. Since Brexit it has brought out the worst of the extremes in both sides except this huge grey area of normal people in the middle.
This highlights a problem with some places on the internet. Free speech is increasingly becoming a one way street depending on which side you are on. If you are on the 'right side' as determined by those with control you can say whatever you want without any action being taken, but if you are on the opposing side you are under an intense amount of scrutiny and will be punished for very little.

That poster was allowed to continue disrupting those threads with off-topic rants and personal attacks on the people who were in them, but I got a ban for being disrespectful to her in response to her posts in those threads.
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:46
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Just been looking it up. Generation Z is 97 onwards. Hmm, iGeneration. Never heard that one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z
cheers for that


were there 'softies' in the past?.... yes.... but there was far less then there is now.
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Old 23-12-2016, 13:03
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paul jospeh watson has a quite strong opinion of 'generation snowflake' , of which at 26, he is one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn_6sU7O43w
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Old 23-12-2016, 13:22
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is really calling someone a 'snowflake' really that much of an issue?
It can be if it's a lazy put-down of someone who doesn't deserve the term.
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Old 23-12-2016, 13:47
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It can be if it's a lazy put-down of someone who doesn't deserve the term.
but ive only seen it used for softies who do deserve the term...
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Old 23-12-2016, 13:53
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is really calling someone a 'snowflake' really that much of an issue?.... im a boomer, i dont get upset by that, its only a bloody word.
I've never heard the word 'boomer' used as an insult. 'Snowflake' seems to be a word used by adults to slag off other adults. The usage of it is derogatory whereas the usage of 'boomer' is more akin to Gen X and Y. All it denotes is an age group.
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Old 23-12-2016, 14:10
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"Snowflake" was the name which Bill Reynolds (Rudolph Walker) gave Eddie (Jack Smethurst) in Love Thy Neighbour. He also called him "White Honky".
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...42059868,d.ZWM

That was in the days when we could laugh about race and all it involved. When we could call a black person 'Sambo' and they found it funny! The term 'Snowflake' holds no other meaning for me.
Ahhh! The good old days before the pesky PC police emerged and spoiled all the fun some people had being prejudiced.
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Old 23-12-2016, 14:20
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Ahhh! The good old days before the pesky PC police emerged and spoiled all the fun some people had being prejudiced.
you can't even call someone a 'four-eyed ****' these days without them getting the hump
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Old 23-12-2016, 14:38
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you can't even call someone a 'four-eyed ****' these days without them getting the hump
If they argue, tell them to take off their glasses then say "Sorry, I was wrong. You're a **** with or without the glasses!"
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Old 23-12-2016, 14:42
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There has to be a debate? Is life about political scoring, seriously? There are people out there that cannot handle real life. I don't like the term but it is what it is.

Well yes, there has to be a debate, at least at more than the superficial level of just dismissive labelling. Otherwise you're not really challenging their views and hopefully making them think again - or at the very least, making sure others think before they also buy into the nonsense.

People in general hate feeling they've not been listened to, it entrenches their views rather than challenges them and encourages others to support what can be perceived as marginalisation. Condescending labels, even when apparently valid, are fairly much the epitome of not listening to someone, so don't do anything constructive in actually defeating stupid ideas.
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Old 23-12-2016, 16:07
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It's very different in the American University system Muggins.
A long while ago i was reading articles by Law Professors saying students had requested the word "violate" not be used in class because the word was triggering.
HERE's one of the articles i read on the subject which is 2 years old now it's only just starting to filter over to this country in the last 12 months or so. SOme students requested the cessation of teaching rape law as it was "distressing". It was this generation of student with this type of obsession with triggering and micro aggression that caused the term snowflake to develop in common parlance.
Chicago University was warning this year's incoming students there would be no trigger-warnings or safe-spaces

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...825-story.html
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Old 23-12-2016, 16:20
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I've never heard the word 'boomer' used as an insult. 'Snowflake' seems to be a word used by adults to slag off other adults. The usage of it is derogatory whereas the usage of 'boomer' is more akin to Gen X and Y. All it denotes is an age group.
maybe, but so bloody what?.... your pov is exactly the sort that created the snowflakes... 'oh look lets get offended by a name call' .... i mean... it might be mildly derogatory, but does it really matter?... seriously?...
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Old 23-12-2016, 16:44
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Well yes, there has to be a debate, at least at more than the superficial level of just dismissive labelling. Otherwise you're not really challenging their views and hopefully making them think again - or at the very least, making sure others think before they also buy into the nonsense.

People in general hate feeling they've not been listened to, it entrenches their views rather than challenges them and encourages others to support what can be perceived as marginalisation. Condescending labels, even when apparently valid, are fairly much the epitome of not listening to someone, so don't do anything constructive in actually defeating stupid ideas.
I've never seen any outcomes from debates to be honest. Look at Question Time. Decades of talk, no action, nobody being listened to and no change. Talking shop.

Action over talk. Everybody can talk but very few delivers.
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:00
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I've never seen any outcomes from debates to be honest. Look at Question Time. Decades of talk, no action, nobody being listened to and no change. Talking shop.

Action over talk. Everybody can talk but very few delivers.
Actually Question Time is a good example of snowflakes at work. I used to enjoy it and the often lively debates, but it got to the point when anybody from the Conservative party, UKIP, Journalist from the Sun or Mail and pretty much anybody with a 'right wing' centre right opinion would be interrupted by other panelists who had already spoken (usually without interruption)

The supposedly randomly chosen audience also often shout over or boo.
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:14
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maybe, but so bloody what?.... your pov is exactly the sort that created the snowflakes... 'oh look lets get offended by a name call' .... i mean... it might be mildly derogatory, but does it really matter?... seriously?...
'Sticks ' n stones' etc

I think people have forgotten that one.
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